Nick Kyrgios is finished

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Its too late, he's throwing his career away just like Tomic did.

He states he doesn't know what's going on, and goes on to claim his new coach deserves a better athlete than him.

The meltdown isn't new, and Kyrgios seems to realize these mistakes after he makes them. He was contrite in his press conference, and solemn at times. "I keep letting people down," he said. "I don't know." Kyrgios also pointed out the dichotomy between when he's playing well and when he's playing poorly. "In Cincy I played basket two hours before Ferrer," he said. "I ate ice cream, ever day a milkshake. Here, I tried. I don't know man." He also complimented his coach, Sebastian Grosjean, for whom he has always had strong words. "My coach is incredible. So dedicated. I'm not good enough for him. He deserves a better athlete than me." - Courtesy of CBS Sports.

This came after he dropped the F Bomb, received a warning, smashed his racket, got a point penalty, and crashed out to John Millman after another meek performance.

Kyrgios also claims he doesn't have the dedication or work ethic for the top of the game, which was followed by strong words by legend John McEnroe and former world no. 4 Greg Rusedski.

“Nick Kyrgios will be finished in under five years if this carries on,” he said.

“It’s OK to show your emotions, but when Kyrgios goes through those periods when he’s not competing, it’s just a black eye for the sport." - John McEnroe

Former British no. 1 Rusedski had even harsher words and called for him to quit tennis altogether.

“If he doesn't want to play tennis then don't play tennis,” he said.

“Go do something else with your life.

“I mean there's people working 9-5 in jobs which are so hard, grinding every day and making no pay whatsoever.

“He's getting millions of dollars a year to play this sport. But he has the chance to walk away and do something else with his life.” - Greg Rusedski.

I agree with both. This path cannot continue for Nick Kyrgios, and something needs to change, but at this point, I don't see it happening.

The talent is there, the mind isn't.
 
Kyrgios was never so talented as Shapovalov for example. He is mainly a servebot who can convert spectacular points, but definetely he is not so complete, fast and agile as Shapovalov.

To stablish an analogy with football, it could be said that Kyrgios is the Adriano Leite of tennis. Those who like football will remember this similar case, a player with a powerful style of game but a conflictive mind:

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Kyrgios was never so talented as Shapovalov for example. He is mainly a servebot who can convert spectacular points, but definetely he is not so complete, fast and agile as Shapovalov.

To stablish an analogy with football, it could be said that Kyrgios is the Adriano Leite of tennis. Those who like football will remember this similar case, a player with a powerful style of game but a conflictive mind:

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I disagree, I feel the talent is there for him, it's just up to him to fulfill it.

Also, Adriano had to deal with his father dying after a match he played with Inter. Teammate Zlatan Ibrahimovic even said he remembered him crying. Another teammate and Inter captain Javier Zanetti claimed he wasn't the same after his death. Kyrgios hasn't had tragedy strike his family the way it struck Adriano
 
I share your serious concern about his future but let's not forget that he crushed Nadal a couple of weeks ago and made it to his first big final.

But he'll definitely never be a great (or even a top 10) player if he doesn't hire a coach,physio, AND therapist!
 
I share your serious concern about his future but let's not forget that he crushed Nadal a couple of weeks ago and made it to his first big final.

But he'll definitely never be a great (or even a top 10) player if he doesn't hire a coach,physio, AND therapist!
As easy as it is for him to beat Novak twice in 2 weeks and crush Rafa, it's also even easier to lose to players ranked miles below him.

Also, he does have a coach now, but he doesn't feel like he deserves him
 
I call some sort of anxiety issue.
I don't think thats it. Or he would play worse against top players when in fact he does the opposite. He admits he tanks matches and doesn't care when he plays lesser opponents on outside courts.
 
I don't think thats it. Or he would play worse against top players when in fact he does the opposite. He admits he tanks matches and doesn't care when he plays lesser opponents on outside courts.
It's not just nerves, or choking. From his post-match interviews you can see that he clearly wants to do well, he knows what to do, and he can't seem to do it anyway.

I really think that when Kyrgios tanks and 'doesn't want to be there' it's a fight/flight reaction.

Against the big players, Kyrgios really wants to win. On slams against minor players, I think Kyrgios gets really afraid of losing, and I think Nick has trouble dealing with that.
 
It's not just nerves, or choking. From his post-match interviews you can see that he clearly wants to do well, he knows what to do, and he can't seem to do it anyway.

I really think that when Kyrgios tanks and 'doesn't want to be there' it's a fight/flight reaction.

Against the big players, Kyrgios really wants to win. On slams against minor players, I think Kyrgios gets really afraid of losing, and I think Nick has trouble dealing with that.
Thats possible. Didn't think of it that way. Makes more sense than just tanking like he says but neither of them make a lot of sense.
 
Seems he may not be suited to the grind of playing through a tournament on his own. Maybe Davis Cup with its shorter format and team support will be his strong point.I'll be interested to see how he fares in the doubles tonight v the Bryan bros.
 
The guy is inventing a lot of problems in what seems a privileged life. Maybe some people don't want to be happy.

Lots of people, roughly 50% of the population, enjoy being victims and it consumes their existence. They simply love victimhood. Their lives become about oppressor vs oppressed. Sadly Nick seems 3 be a case of this.
 
I share your serious concern about his future but let's not forget that he crushed Nadal a couple of weeks ago and made it to his first big final.

But he'll definitely never be a great (or even a top 10) player if he doesn't hire a coach,physio, AND therapist!

Maybe he should hire Pepe Imaz to straighten him out. He sure seemed to work wonders with Djokovic...
 
Relax, folks, he's just an emotional drama queen. Maybe he settles down into a career groove with his tennis, maybe he flames out. My take? He's frustrated by his injuries, but he doesn't like the repetitive grind of practice or rehab. So he'll not likely build up the supporting muscles and fitness required to rehab injuries properly or prevent future ones. He's one of those types that'd rather just play matches one after the other while healthy but things aren't going that way right now. I bet injuries will end his career, not burnout.
 
He goes on court thinking he should be gifted everything, he's never really made it. Yes, he can hit aces and winners, but he is far from the finished article. His attitude stinks, can see him never actually doing anything of note.
 
Relax, folks, he's just an emotional drama queen. Maybe he settles down into a career groove with his tennis, maybe he flames out. My take? He's frustrated by his injuries, but he doesn't like the repetitive grind of practice or rehab. So he'll not likely build up the supporting muscles and fitness required to rehab injuries properly or prevent future ones. He's one of those types that'd rather just play matches one after the other while healthy but things aren't going that way right now. I bet injuries will end his career, not burnout.
This sounds right.

I bet he makes some good runs here and there. Could even win a major or three
 
Kyrgios was never so talented as Shapovalov for example. He is mainly a servebot who can convert spectacular points, but definetely he is not so complete, fast and agile as Shapovalov.

To stablish an analogy with football, it could be said that Kyrgios is the Adriano Leite of tennis. Those who like football will remember this similar case, a player with a powerful style of game but a conflictive mind:

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Kyrgios vs. Shap? I'll take nick to win 8+ times out of 10
 
NK needs to go try to play pro basketball since he thinks he's a professional baller.

After getting destroyed by semi-pros he'll see how good he has it in tennis.
He's already stated that tennis is just a job where he hits a ball over a net, and it's easy! If a professional athlete finds the sport easy, he really should be doing more than he is now. He's 22, by this age Djokovic, Federer, and Nadal had already won a slam. Anything from this point on is just an over glorified Andy Murray esque player with 2-3 slams to his name. But even that's a stretch.
 
Its too late, he's throwing his career away just like Tomic did.

He states he doesn't know what's going on, and goes on to claim his new coach deserves a better athlete than him.

The meltdown isn't new, and Kyrgios seems to realize these mistakes after he makes them. He was contrite in his press conference, and solemn at times. "I keep letting people down," he said. "I don't know." Kyrgios also pointed out the dichotomy between when he's playing well and when he's playing poorly. "In Cincy I played basket two hours before Ferrer," he said. "I ate ice cream, ever day a milkshake. Here, I tried. I don't know man." He also complimented his coach, Sebastian Grosjean, for whom he has always had strong words. "My coach is incredible. So dedicated. I'm not good enough for him. He deserves a better athlete than me." - Courtesy of CBS Sports.

This came after he dropped the F Bomb, received a warning, smashed his racket, got a point penalty, and crashed out to John Millman after another meek performance.

Kyrgios also claims he doesn't have the dedication or work ethic for the top of the game, which was followed by strong words by legend John McEnroe and former world no. 4 Greg Rusedski.

“Nick Kyrgios will be finished in under five years if this carries on,” he said.

“It’s OK to show your emotions, but when Kyrgios goes through those periods when he’s not competing, it’s just a black eye for the sport." - John McEnroe

Former British no. 1 Rusedski had even harsher words and called for him to quit tennis altogether.

“If he doesn't want to play tennis then don't play tennis,” he said.

“Go do something else with your life.

“I mean there's people working 9-5 in jobs which are so hard, grinding every day and making no pay whatsoever.

“He's getting millions of dollars a year to play this sport. But he has the chance to walk away and do something else with his life.” - Greg Rusedski.

I agree with both. This path cannot continue for Nick Kyrgios, and something needs to change, but at this point, I don't see it happening.

The talent is there, the mind isn't.
He really isn't that talented. He has poor movement, a low tennis IQ and on top of that doesn't even care about the sport.
 
it's one thing to not like to practice but he seems to also not enjoy competing when things get tough, so idk if there's alot of hope for him...
 
The finer points of his narcissistic, one-man-show, psycho-drama are at once the most boring and embarrassing sideshow in tennis in recent years. Tell us more of your complex inner pain that's so intense you can't explain Nicky. Actually, don't - I found a meme that explains everything.

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Reached 13 in the world with 50% effort. If that's no talent, then nobody is.
So he was half assing it to 2 QFs and 3 titles?

Hilarious.

If he was going "50%" he'd be ranked outside the top 100.
 
He doesn't realize that he's doing quite well right now. He's not so far from the top 10. You don't need to be #1 to be successful

Exactly, Nishikori is in the top 5 all time prize earners and he's never reached number 1 or won a major. Even top 50 makes a very comfortable living. If a pro doesn't have any aspirations to win a slam or get to number 1, they could save on a lot of support personnel expenses.
 
Reverse jinx thread!

How many Rafa or Fed threads have put those two in the great north over the past few years?

This thread virtually guarantees that Kyrgios will win the AO next year!
 
Kyrgios was never so talented as Shapovalov for example. He is mainly a servebot who can convert spectacular points, but definetely he is not so complete, fast and agile as Shapovalov.

To stablish an analogy with football, it could be said that Kyrgios is the Adriano Leite of tennis. Those who like football will remember this similar case, a player with a powerful style of game but a conflictive mind:

1151402849_0.jpg

I dont know why, but you mentioning Adriano made me want to get drunk and have funny pictures of me taken and uploaded to the Internet
 
He's a spoiled brat that has just got lucky he can make good money at something without really trying. He sounds like a moody teenager that never tries in school.

Rusedski is right but why would he do anything else when it's so damn cushy being a tennis clown?
 
People that like watching him are the same people that like Silvester Stillone movies, they buy into the hype, the name, the brand without thinking about the actual experience. Like those movies, he is rubbish as a spectator sport, sulky, points are over fast and he isn't interested in his actual discipline. Kyrgios is the same as watching a spoilt brat tell the tennis coach that he doesn't like the sport because he 'doesn't get it', Kyrgios is just more advanced and, unfortunately for people who work hard for their money, better paid. Like McEnroe said, he's a black eye for tennis.
 
He's already stated that tennis is just a job where he hits a ball over a net, and it's easy! If a professional athlete finds the sport easy, he really should be doing more than he is now. He's 22, by this age Djokovic, Federer, and Nadal had already won a slam. Anything from this point on is just an over glorified Andy Murray esque player with 2-3 slams to his name. But even that's a stretch.
Kyrgios having a "Murray-esque" career would be nothing short of miraculous.
 
The one riddle I don't get with Kyrgios, is for someone who generally admits he doesn't have the love or work ethic he should have...WHY DOES HE EVEN PLAY DOUBLES?

He doesn't need the paltry money, but few players that get to his level "waste" their time playing it. Only if you really love the game or think it helps you (see Williams sisters) would you generally spend time doing this. Never seen a rationalization from him on this.
 
The one riddle I don't get with Kyrgios, is for someone who generally admits he doesn't have the love or work ethic he should have...WHY DOES HE EVEN PLAY DOUBLES?

He doesn't need the paltry money, but few players that get to his level "waste" their time playing it. Only if you really love the game or think it helps you (see Williams sisters) would you generally spend time doing this. Never seen a rationalization from him on this.

I think it's just easy money for him as the matches are usually shorter and there's less running. Plus his partner can do half the work for him. Maybe also he likes playing with girls. Doesn't he only play mixed doubles?
 
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The one riddle I don't get with Kyrgios, is for someone who generally admits he doesn't have the love or work ethic he should have...WHY DOES HE EVEN PLAY DOUBLES?

He doesn't need the paltry money, but few players that get to his level "waste" their time playing it. Only if you really love the game or think it helps you (see Williams sisters) would you generally spend time doing this. Never seen a rationalization from him on this.
the chicks.
 
I disagree, I feel the talent is there for him, it's just up to him to fulfill it.

Also, Adriano had to deal with his father dying after a match he played with Inter. Teammate Zlatan Ibrahimovic even said he remembered him crying. Another teammate and Inter captain Javier Zanetti claimed he wasn't the same after his death. Kyrgios hasn't had tragedy strike his family the way it struck Adriano

Not saying it was the same thing but he did take the death of his beloved grandfather earlier this year particularly hard.
 
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