Nick Kyrgios is the most genuine guy on the tour

Nickos24

New User
None and I have never claimed such or extrapolated on the basis of such. I can judge him by his behaviour in a very public setting and in his matches.

I didnt claim to know him privately either, my judgment was also based on his behaviour in a public setting. We'll agree to disagree. :)
 

accidental

Hall of Fame
Great. Maybe he’ll win the 2020 ATP ‘most genuine’ award. That’s way better than actually winning a slam, or making the top 10.

I mean, who the hell cares? I watch tennis for the actual tennis, not to watch drama queens have tantrums and whinge in press conferences and blogs.

Why would you even bring this topic up on a tennis forum? Talking about tennis players ‘personalities’ like they’re the kardashians.
 
Especially compared to the big 3.

Federer - false modesty, temper comes out when he starts losing. Must be real hard to be classy when you win like 85% of all your matches your entire career. His statement in response to Greta Thunberg was as if a PR person wrote it. Nothing but corporate speak.

Djokovic - wants to be liked so desperately it comes across as kind of pathetic sometimes.

Nadal - close to King Kyrgios but holds back his thoughts too much.

Kyrgios will flat out refuse to shake an ump's hand who did a poor job (I respect that), and calls out ballboys for whistleblowing to the umpire when he swears. Love him or hate him, he is the real article. What you see is what you get.
If you mean genuine scumbag, sure why not
 

esm

Professional
When he was 100% calm and walked off the court and smashed his racquets in the corridor and then walked back onto court with broken racquets.
even though he does other things on the court - chairs/water bottles etc. etc... (which i do not agree... but hey...)

i actually thought it was okay to walk off the court and do whatever you want, rather than acting like a brat and felt it is okay/entitled to smash racquets in front of the crowd/fan - this act can potentially hurt someone nearby. it was just unfortunate that the camera man walked with him and showed what he did in the corridor.

i get everyone has anger, but it isnt really justified to be doing that in front of others, especially kids. how do you explain that to kids or others struggling to play the game without money to buy decent equipment?
 

N01E

Professional
LMAO, no. He's just going for an image of an honest *********. Even Naked Netflix Jesus would be a better pick.
 

Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
I didnt claim to know him privately either, my judgment was also based on his behaviour in a public setting. We'll agree to disagree. :)
Well, you made the implication that your impression is from when he is not pressed from the public attention. Good that you came clear on that matter.

 
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Red Rick

Talk Tennis Guru
In a press conference last week, Zverev said Dimitrov and Sock wanted to fight Kyrgios at 2018 Laver Cup, that's how much of a loser Kyrgios is :)
He's not going to be mean to fans, because he's desperate to be liked by the public, but can't help being an a-hole in private....
Lol. Sock was his teammate.

Why didn't this happen. Why can't we have good things in this world.
 

Primavera

Rookie
Tell us about your private experience with the nadal when "the cameras aren't rolling" (I assume that means that he is not in a public setting).

Maybe you should go to school first to learn some proper English.

But in order to have your own experience with "the Nadal" when "the cameras aren't rolling", you can always travel to his Academy where he practices a lot both on the tennis courts, and in the gym and swimming pools. You can also meet him in the spa, sports bar, cafeteria, or parking lot, or just in the Academy premises talking to people. "The Nadal" has a nasty habit being kind to people.
 

ron schaap

Professional
No is not. He has a mental problem and tanked several times against much lesser players. Thats not genuine, thats weak.
 

Fairhit

Semi-Pro
I'm a Fed fan myself and I admit that his public persona is a bit of a PR construct, Djoker tries too hard to be liked, Rafa on the other hand comes across as a real nice guy, you might not like his tennis or his on court antics but he really seems genuine.
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
Even though being genuine it doesn’t mean it’s something good or being “the real deal”.
He is an extreme extrovert who needs attention and to be seen. Nothing wrong being an extrovert, I am myself. But it’s embarrassing really to see childish extroverts like Kyrgios in full display. Not everyone is that expressive, doesn’t mean they aren’t genuine, it’s just that most aren’t that attention seeking.
To be attention seeking like that, for a man, is a bit pathetic imo.
 

Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
Maybe you should go to school first to learn some proper English.

But in order to have your own experience with "the Nadal" when "the cameras aren't rolling", you can always travel to his Academy where he practices a lot both on the tennis courts, and in the gym and swimming pools. You can also meet him in the spa, sports bar, cafeteria, or parking lot, or just in the Academy premises talking to people. "The Nadal" has a nasty habit being kind to people.
You are looking at the things from a very unattractive angle. Could you raise your level a bit?

 

JaoSousa

Semi-Pro
In a press conference last week, Zverev said Dimitrov and Sock wanted to fight Kyrgios at 2018 Laver Cup, that's how much of a loser Kyrgios is :)
He's not going to be mean to fans, because he's desperate to be liked by the public, but can't help being an a-hole in private....
Link?
 

JaoSousa

Semi-Pro
Anyway we saw the best version ever of Kyrgios and he got destroyed by RBAgut in the ATP Cup SF.
Kyrgios gave 100% effort, especially in the 1st Set, and RBAgut won that set 6-1 :)
Kyrgios was pumped from the very beginning, and RBAgut pumped him!
Kyrgios even admitted that he's fully motivated for team events.
Of course we know he's also motivated for individual events, just that he's too scared to admit it because he keeps losing....
That was definitely not the best version of Kygrios and even you know it. So that means that the not so best version of Kyrgios beat Nadal and Djokovic?:unsure:
 

JaoSousa

Semi-Pro
Great. Maybe he’ll win the 2020 ATP ‘most genuine’ award. That’s way better than actually winning a slam, or making the top 10.

I mean, who the hell cares? I watch tennis for the actual tennis, not to watch drama queens have tantrums and whinge in press conferences and blogs.

Why would you even bring this topic up on a tennis forum? Talking about tennis players ‘personalities’ like they’re the kardashians.
This is no ordinary tennis forum...
 

wangs78

Hall of Fame
Kyrgios is genuine in that he speaks off the cuff - he does not think about the repercussions of what he says, which is basically what children do. In that sense he is quite immature. But he's a fun loving guy and so on the one hand he says incendiary things that annoy many of us but on the other his spontaneity and humor entertain us. His temper tantrums are in poor taste but, admit it, they do appeal to our base instincts of enjoying watching others behave badly.

Federer and Nadal are mature, polished individuals who, in my view, are genuine, but when faced with a stir the pot kind of question from journalists will avoid controversy and say the "right" thing. Doesn't mean they are fake. They know controversy only results in more questions from annoying journalists so why give them the ammo?
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
He's one of a small handful of players that I've met by pure chance and he was pleasant and nice.
I’ve seen and spoken to him 5 different years at IW and Nick has always been fine. He can be impatient on the grounds when people swarm him but otherwise, he’s professional with fans off court, definitely not a jerk.
 

Pmasterfunk

Semi-Pro
Attention vvhore or genuine...take a pick.
Maybe a genuine attention vvhore?

Honestly, I think "both sides" are kinda right here:
  • Nick seems to be a reasonable person off-court according to some - admittedly anecdotal - evidence, but he does often act like a moron on court.
  • He claims to not care about tennis, but he obviously tries hard at times.
  • His odd fixation with annoying Djokovic is annoying at best, but I agree that Djokovic often gets into cringe-territory with his "love sending"
  • I agree that Nadal is salty when losing, but he actually seems likeable off-court (as much as I hate to admit it)
But I don't think any of this behaviour makes him either "genuine" or "ungenuine". Sometimes I like to watch him play, and sometimes he annoys me. I don't see why I would have to like him 100% of the time. And I think him behaving in seemingly contradictory ways is a pretty normal thing for human beings.
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
Kyrgios will flat out refuse to shake an ump's hand who did a poor job (I respect that), and calls out ballboys for whistleblowing to the umpire when he swears. Love him or hate him, he is the real article. What you see is what you get.
So classless and immature. Got it. ove the way people call someone being a genuine ****** "keeping it real".
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
he’s rude, he’s disrespectful, he’s got no manners. what’s there to admire again?

honestly, who would want someone like Kyrgios as a friend in their own lives? he’d backstab you on the first chance he’d get.
Not so sure about that. To me he comes across as someone who either takes to you or he doesn't. Either way he stays faithful to his first impressions.
 

StANDAA

Legend
Not so sure about that. To me he comes across as someone who either takes to you or he doesn't. Either way he stays faithful to his first impressions.
come on Novak thought they were friends and then Gyros went and disrespected him in the media, completely unprovoked. not showing one bit of respect to the champion.

Wawrinka thought they were friends and then he humiliated him live to get his fair share of attention and drama.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
come on Novak thought they were friends and then Gyros went and disrespected him in the media, completely unprovoked. not showing one bit of respect to the champion.

Wawrinka thought they were friends and then he humiliated him live to get his fair share of attention and drama.
Not convinced he was ever friends with Novak or Stan unless you can show me evidence otherwise.
 

StANDAA

Legend
Not convinced he was ever friends with Novak or Stan unless you can show me evidence otherwise.
okay, not exactly friends but friendly or something of the sort, you know, definitely not at odds. Novak was surprised when he heard the Nick comments about him and didn’t understand it.
 

Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
If behaving like Kyrgios behaves is the "real thing," he should try to be more fake.
Those who try to qualify Kyrgios's behaviour as caused by only one subset of reasons are disingenuous in their comments about his issues. Plenty of his actions point to real problems on the tour that seem to not be addressed by the PC guys. That is the major offence of his critics: they try to conceal his just critique with his personal shenanigans stemming from elsewhere and then go on to dismiss everything he does. Whether they do it out of ignorance or intentionally is irrelevant: fact is, he raises a lot of valid questions that need to be addressed for what they are, instead of relentlessly being attacked. He has his personal issues, but if people concentrate on those they really have an axe to grind with him. To top it off, they are trying to transfer that attitude towards his tennis, which is another major problem: swinging between hating on his relative lack of success on the biggest stages and wild claims about his style being "boring".

 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
swinging between hating on his relative lack of success on the biggest stages and wild claims about his style being "boring".
Those who claim he's "boring" don't even watch this matches, that's quite evident, or they have an agenda which is extraneous from Nick's actual abilities on court. It's easier for them to skip his matches and just chime in, "didn't miss much, dude's so boring!"

This match is the most entertaining three set match in the last 5 years, probably longer-- it's anything but "dull:"

 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Those who claim he's "boring" don't even watch this matches, that's quite evident, or they have an agenda which is extraneous from Nick's actual abilities on court. It's easier for them to skip his matches and just chime in, "didn't miss much, dude's so boring!"

This match is the most entertaining three set match in the last 5 years, probably longer-- it's anything but "dull:"

It is one of the best matches and yes, I did watch it. Stop cheating readers.
 

daggerman

Rookie
Anyway we saw the best version ever of Kyrgios and he got destroyed by RBAgut in the ATP Cup SF.
Kyrgios gave 100% effort, especially in the 1st Set, and RBAgut won that set 6-1 :)
Kyrgios was pumped from the very beginning, and RBAgut pumped him!
Kyrgios even admitted that he's fully motivated for team events.
Of course we know he's also motivated for individual events, just that he's too scared to admit it because he keeps losing....
Just because he's focused during a match doesn't mean he's doing everything he can off the court to be optimally prepared. Being motivated will do little to overcome lacking the fitness and consistency that only comes from training.

We'll know we're getting the best ever version of Kyrgios when he stops wearing the compression shirt underneath his polo to hide his gut.
 

Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
Just because he's focused during a match doesn't mean he's doing everything he can off the court to be optimally prepared. Being motivated will do little to overcome lacking the fitness and consistency that only comes from training.

We'll know we're getting the best ever version of Kyrgios when he stops wearing the compression shirt underneath his polo to hide his gut.
The funny part is, there are reports that he trains hard off the court. Whether that is "everything" is another matter, but some people's speculations that he basically rides on talent are hilarious (to anyone that knows anything about pro sport). Even more hilarious still is the fact that the same people that speculate about him riding on a talent alone are the ones that criticise others for saying how talented he really is. The thoughts of those experts are a great great read.

 

Mark Bosko

New User
Actually, you don't have to say out loud everything you think to be genuine. Also, being genuine and admirable are not the same thing.
 

Raphael Nadal

Hall of Fame
“What do you want me to say? It's Nick. It's just what he does.
“He does that at Laver Cup as well. I mean, I know that Grigor almost had a fight with him and Jack in 2018.
“Yeah, I mean, he can do whatever he wants. If he wants to do pushups, that's fine, as long as he doesn't offend anybody or do the Nick Kyrgios stuff that he sometimes does that I don't care about it.”

Lol. Sock was his teammate.

Why didn't this happen. Why can't we have good things in this world.
Yeah looks like Zverev was referring to Dimitrov fighting Kyrgios and Sock :)
 

Tshooter

Legend
I can’t find The Most Genuine Guy On Tour at The Rally for Relief in his own country ? :sneaky:

Well I spoke too soon. They just brought him out. He has The Most Genuine Haircut On Tour. Nick entrance followed by Serena announcing Rogers entrance as “The GOAT” with Djokodal standing there.:giggle:
 
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