Nick Kyrgios, what do you see in him?

dpli2010

Semi-Pro
FH, BH, serve, attitude, movement, concentration, versatility, mentality, free mind... Can't say much in specific for now, but sort of seeing a bit of combination of both Roger's and Rafa's strengths in this young gentleman's game and style...
 

Mayonnaise

Banned
He's got everything, but his movement is mediocre, and we don't know what his durability will be like. Not too sure about his backhand, either.
 
Nah. I see a future top 5 player with multiple grandslams under-his-belt.

Nishikori
Dimitrov
Kyrigos
Raonic
Coric


5 future stars.
 

Scorch

Rookie
Good call on Tsonga comparisons. Makes some amazing shots. Misses some easy ones. Big, big game but can he do the boring stuff well?

He seems to be slapping and swiping at the ball quite a lot - seems like a footwork issue and he clearly does not want to rally with nadal (which is wise).
 

dpli2010

Semi-Pro
He's an upgraded version of Tsonga, less equipped at the net.

Better serve, forehand, shot selection and mental strength.
I see a clone of Tsonga, and will probably have a pretty similar career.
Good call on Tsonga comparisons. Makes some amazing shots. Misses some easy ones. Big, big game but can he do the boring stuff well?

He seems to be slapping and swiping at the ball quite a lot - seems like a footwork issue and he clearly does not want to rally with nadal (which is wise).
I agree with you guys on the Tsonga thing in terms of his similar inspirational way of ball treatment. That is why I see the resembleness of Kyrgios' game and style to Roger's because there is the same similarity between Roger's and Tsonga's game (For the same reason, I would suggest Roger to play "mediocre" or the least inspirational game when facing Tsonga to outplay him). Yet, Kyrgios' mental strength is at a higher level, if not much higher, than Tsonga's, and that's the similarity of his game to Rafa's.
 

Vcore89

G.O.A.T.
Kyrgios and Dimitrov shall be the next top 2! Thiem, if he ditches his coach's brand of training should be right there as well (but doesn't seem to be that way, yet!).
 
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Scorch

Rookie
Surprised he won and full of admiration. Bigger tests ahead now he has expectation on his shoulders. Hard to live up to the hype at such an early stage in his career. If he's zoning tho he can beat anyone that's for sure.

Will be interesting to see if he can win when he's not 100% which is the mark of the absolute top players.
 

tacou

G.O.A.T.
He's got everything, but his movement is mediocre, and we don't know what his durability will be like. Not too sure about his backhand, either.
Really? I think his BH is sweet. Could become more consistent but he's only 19.

I think he is the best young guy on tour right now. He's what people want JJ and Raonic to be.
 

ibbi

Legend
Unwavering nerve, and an incredible serve. The rest of his game is alright, but today if his serve hadn't bailed him out of worrying moments over and over and over again there wouldn't have been THAT much to worry Rafa.
 

Vcore89

G.O.A.T.
Lleyton never hinted on retiring when Bernard Tomic came but he finally called it, saying he is one injury away from retirement. Well, Rusty probably meant Nick Kyrgios is the real deal to to carry on Oz's proud tennis tradition.
 

MarcusInKensington

Hall of Fame
At least the Aussies no longer have to rely on Tomic the Tank to save them from the tennis abyss.

He can concentrate on disappearing in to obscurity now.
 
Unwavering nerve, and an incredible serve. The rest of his game is alright, but today if his serve hadn't bailed him out of worrying moments over and over and over again there wouldn't have been THAT much to worry Rafa.
+1 to this, his consistent serve definitely helped him for his win
 

ibbi

Legend
I don't really buy the Tsonga comparisons to be honest. Tsonga (certainly if we're thinking back to that break out victory against Rafa in 2008) moved much better, and Tsonga has great composure coming forward. Every time Kyrgios came in today it seemed he was dumping easy put aways into the net.

It was an amazing victory today, but it was more Rosol like than anything else. The serve is what did it. Let's not kid ourselves.
 

Gyswandir

Semi-Pro
He's got everything, but his movement is mediocre, and we don't know what his durability will be like. Not too sure about his backhand, either.
+1
I'd also say he needs to be more tactically savvy. He has the shots, but sometimes was just hitting, without thinking too much. He gets away with it due to the quality of his shots, but to have a really successful career and become consistently contending for slams, he needs to have more purpose and a plan.
Of course, also volleys!
 

Mayonnaise

Banned
+1
I'd also say he needs to be more tactically savvy. He has the shots, but sometimes was just hitting, without thinking too much. He gets away with it due to the quality of his shots, but to have a really successful career and become consistently contending for slams, he needs to have more purpose and a plan.
Of course, also volleys!
I also feel that his return of serve is terrible. It's not just bad, it's terrible. If he can improve that, he will be a force to be reckoned with on all fast surfaces.
 

dpli2010

Semi-Pro
I don't really buy the Tsonga comparisons to be honest. Tsonga (certainly if we're thinking back to that break out victory against Rafa in 2008) moved much better, and Tsonga has great composure coming forward. Every time Kyrgios came in today it seemed he was dumping easy put aways into the net.

It was an amazing victory today, but it was more Rosol like than anything else. The serve is what did it. Let's not kid ourselves.
- In my eyes, what distinguishes the two is Tsonga leans to showoff his shot than win the point, while Kyrgios' easy errors at net in today's match were because he was trying to be precise or making the shot unreturnable. The former is hard to fix, while the latter can improve, especially with his attitude;
- I am afraid Kyrgios indicated much more than did Rosol in dismissing the same opponent, on the same surface...
 
lol @ the clueless idiot that thinks this guy is a first-strike low % player in Rosol.

All only because he beat Nadal at Wimbledon, just like Rosol did. Furthermore proof you bellends never watch any tennis and probably never play any. If I asked you what a shake hands grip was you'd probably be cross-eyed.

2-3 star names and the majority of posters follow those. They then tune into matches of there's during the Grand-slams and look forward to their matches against each other. What a borefest. Masters series, I imagine everyone just tunes into the semi-final and final show-downs. It's rather pathetic.

It's a Nadal & Federer forum, but what's sad is it's that which keeps tennis forums active. Nadal and Federer *****, using these players as an excuse to troll. It's the same as terrorism, using religion as a vehicle. Pathetic.

Rosol had to red-line his game to beat Nadal and relies on much finer margins for error than Kyrigos. What a clueless post. Bet you think the kid is just a one hit wonder, player that blows hot and cold? lol

Dispecible ignorant. ROSOL! What an insult. May as well diss his mother.
 
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- In my eyes, what distinguishes the two is Tsonga leans to showoff his shot than win the point, while Kyrgios' easy errors at net in today's match were because he was trying to be precise or making the shot unreturnable. The former is hard to fix, while the latter can improve, especially with his attitude;
- I am afraid Kyrgios indicated much more than did Rosol in dismissing the same opponent, on the same surface...
Tsonga relies a bit more on inspiration to produce wonder-shots that enable him to win points against the top guys. However there was a time where Jo never used to spray the same extent in errors.

Tsonga saved tennis in 2008 Melbourne and Kyrgos saved it in 2014 London.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO6lalt5f6M

Bother their backhands are their weakness, although Kyrigos's is more technically spot on, as McEnroe said.

I wouldn't say Tsonga goes out of his way to show-boat / show-off, or whatever, he is just almost forced into cleaning the lines and taking on shots that are not on, largely due to his limited game. Nicolas has a better serve and forehand than Tsonga, but what wins them matches is very similar.
 

droliver

Professional
Nice win, but I wasn't that impressed with anything but the serve today (which was phenomenal). He is not half the athlete that Tsonga is though and moves even worse. He just served Nadal off the court, old school grass style.

I though he played a really weird tactical match, and was content to just load up on the serve. It was insane to sit and try to exchange off the ground with Nadal, and I would guess he lost 75%+ of any point over 3-4 strokes. With a serve that good, he should just be trying to get in to the net off anything to put more pressure on the opponent. He looked slow and clumsy in the backcourt on most points.

But, oh that serve!
 

Mayonnaise

Banned
Nice win, but I wasn't that impressed with anything but the serve today (which was phenomenal). He is not half the athlete that Tsonga is though and moves even worse. He just served Nadal off the court, old school grass style.

I though he played a really weird tactical match, and was content to just load up on the serve. It was insane to sit and try to exchange off the ground with Nadal, and I would guess he lost 75%+ of any point over 3-4 strokes. With a serve that good, he should just be trying to get in to the net off anything to put more pressure on the opponent. He looked slow and clumsy in the backcourt on most points.

But, oh that serve!
I thought he was tactically brilliant.
 

Graf=GOAT

Professional
Non existent movement, horrendous return, no net game to speak of.

Huge serve, great forehand, ok backhand

Not top 10 material.
 
Many on here obviously don't know what it takes to make it on tour today. Kyrigos's game is to ball-strike, a ball-striker is playing on the front-foot and attacking. They don't need to have the ridiculous movement of Djokovic and / or footwork of Federer. Stop being so idealistic and sensationalistic.
 

boramiNYC

Hall of Fame
His serve is pretty good but nothing jaw dropping like Raonic's in consistent power.

His BH is a little contrived at times guiding the ball but making in most of the times, but that might not cut it as experienced pros start picking on it.

But what's really special I saw is his FH. It has tremendous spin like Sock's FH but it's better controlled and he doesn't overhit it like Sock does under pressure. It completely dismantled Nadal today along with his serve.

After a while on tour I think his serve and BH will be 'figured out' but his FH will remain special for a long time.
 

merwy

Legend
I don't know. To be honest I can't really compare him with any other player (do we really have to though? I can do without the baby Fed's and baby whatevers). But he plays very agressive and if anything reminds me of Janowicz a lot, but that's probably because of his attitude, young age, big serve and agressive style. He seems better than JJ though. Nice loose arm with that forehand, seems like an athletic guy.
 

Oz_Rocket

Professional
Non existent movement, horrendous return, no net game to speak of.

Huge serve, great forehand, ok backhand

Not top 10 material.
Yep and people have been saying that about him since he was 10.

What Nick has ALWAYS been able to do is find a way to win in spite of all that.

He's won junior grand slams. He was #1 junior in the world. As a teenager he's won Challengers on three different surfaces which not many current players can lay claim to. He is not a one trick pony who got lucky at one Wimbledon.

When players like Federer and Murray are talking him up do you think it is purely his technique they are thinking about? What they see is a kid with more heart and self belief than almost any other player on tour.

Will it take him to a grand slam win? If I were a betting man I'd say more than likely it will. He's probably 3-4 years off fully maturing as player and provided he works hard and listens to the right people I'd say multiple grand slams are there for the taking.
 

caugas

Semi-Pro
Big serve
Murray like BH
Wicked compact ATP style FH
Cockiness lose the jewely and z style hair du
Lots and lots of potential
 
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dpli2010

Semi-Pro
I don't really buy the Tsonga comparisons to be honest. Tsonga (certainly if we're thinking back to that break out victory against Rafa in 2008) moved much better, and Tsonga has great composure coming forward. Every time Kyrgios came in today it seemed he was dumping easy put aways into the net.

It was an amazing victory today, but it was more Rosol like than anything else. The serve is what did it. Let's not kid ourselves.
Nice win, but I wasn't that impressed with anything but the serve today (which was phenomenal). He is not half the athlete that Tsonga is though and moves even worse. He just served Nadal off the court, old school grass style.

I though he played a really weird tactical match, and was content to just load up on the serve. It was insane to sit and try to exchange off the ground with Nadal, and I would guess he lost 75%+ of any point over 3-4 strokes. With a serve that good, he should just be trying to get in to the net off anything to put more pressure on the opponent. He looked slow and clumsy in the backcourt on most points.

But, oh that serve!
There's got to be something behind the OMG serve when the #1 is looking at him on the other side...
 
On fast Courts he will always be dangerous but his movements Looks a Little clumsy. not sure if he will be a force on slower hardcourts.
 

ibbi

Legend
lol @ the clueless idiot that thinks this guy is a first-strike low % player in Rosol.

All only because he beat Nadal at Wimbledon, just like Rosol did. Furthermore proof you bellends never watch any tennis and probably never play any. If I asked you what a shake hands grip was you'd probably be cross-eyed.

2-3 star names and the majority of posters follow those. They then tune into matches of there's during the Grand-slams and look forward to their matches against each other. What a borefest. Masters series, I imagine everyone just tunes into the semi-final and final show-downs. It's rather pathetic.

It's a Nadal & Federer forum, but what's sad is it's that which keeps tennis forums active. Nadal and Federer *****, using these players as an excuse to troll. It's the same as terrorism, using religion as a vehicle. Pathetic.

Rosol had to red-line his game to beat Nadal and relies on much finer margins for error than Kyrigos. What a clueless post. Bet you think the kid is just a one hit wonder, player that blows hot and cold? lol

Dispecible ignorant. ROSOL! What an insult. May as well diss his mother.
Damn!:lol: Any chance you're taking this all a little seriously/being a little presumptuous? I didn't say HE was Rosol like, I said it was a Rosol like victory. Which it was. Did you watch the two matches? An unstoppable, unwavering serve that doesn't give Nadal a prayer, and then spending most of the time not making any indent on the Nadal serve either.

It's absolutely nothing like the way Tsonga plays. When Tsonga demolished Rafa in 2008 he was coming in, putting away volleys effortlessly, using the drop shot sublimely to mix things up, and keep Rafa on his toes. All Kyrgios did yesterday was blast Nadal off the court. No, I'm not saying it was a one hit wonder victory, and no I'm not saying it was a fluke, but the manner of it was far more akin to what Rosol did to Rafa than anything Tsonga like.
 

Crisp

Professional
I find it funny that people say his tactics were weird. The tactics used beat no.1 in the world when he is in the 140's. some people are very hard to please. He also beat gasquet and I'm guessing if you aren't an Aussie you didn't see that match. Tactics weren't the same for both matches. I think he played to his strengths against rafa also used the tactics that would most likely get him the win. Was never going to rally rafa off the court.
 

droliver

Professional
I find it funny that people say his tactics were weird. The tactics used beat no.1 in the world when he is in the 140's. some people are very hard to please.
It was "weird" in the context that aside from aces and service winners, he would sit and try to exchange from the backcourt with Nadal. He was getting killed on those points, but he had such a big serving day it got him off the hook.

He would seem to be better served playing what is ordinarily low percentage tactics (S&V or chip and charge at 1st chance) when he plays Nadal. If you watch the match, Nadal was getting deeper in to Kyrgios' service games more often then vice versa due to these points in play that weren't service winners. He just was able to get some big serves @ those points to carry him through.
 

dpli2010

Semi-Pro
Yep and people have been saying that about him since he was 10.

What Nick has ALWAYS been able to do is find a way to win in spite of all that.

He's won junior grand slams. He was #1 junior in the world. As a teenager he's won Challengers on three different surfaces which not many current players can lay claim to. He is not a one trick pony who got lucky at one Wimbledon.

When players like Federer and Murray are talking him up do you think it is purely his technique they are thinking about? What they see is a kid with more heart and self belief than almost any other player on tour.

Will it take him to a grand slam win? If I were a betting man I'd say more than likely it will. He's probably 3-4 years off fully maturing as player and provided he works hard and listens to the right people I'd say multiple grand slams are there for the taking.
Big serve
Murray like BH
Wicked compact ATP style FH
Cockiness lose the jewely and z style hair du
Lots and lots of potential
I am gonna say as long as he stays focused on the sport, he will naturally mature into one of the future Big Four, Five, or whatever...
 
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