Nicolas Mahut's racquet looks like a paintjob of a PS 6.0 85

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I was watching Nicolas Mahut's match against Federer today and I couldn't really tell on TV if he ws using a nCode n6.1 Tour 90 or nCode n6.1 95.

http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=71340345&cdi=0

But then taking a closer inspection from the pics on Getty Images, I realized that he's actually using a PS 6.0 85 with a nCode n6.1 Tour 90 paintjob. Just take a look at the throat of his racquet in these pics:

http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=71244934&cdi=0

http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=71245007&cdi=0

It's got the unmistakable flat throat of the PS 6.0 rather than the angled cut-out or recessed triangular areas at the top two corners under the throat bridge.

No wonder Mahut has such a huge serve!! :D
 
That he does, BP. I don't know about Federer's "PS 6.0 90," but you're certainly right on this one.

I think this pic shows the overall shape of the PS 6.0 85 a bit better. It's definitely not a 6.1-based frame, and his 18 crosses (and his low ranking, i.e. probably no custom drilling) show that it most likely isn't a Tour 90.

On a side note, Mahut volleys really poorly for a player who predominantly rushes the net on service games. Maybe it was Federer's passing shots overshadowing any of Mahut's efforts (never seen him play before his match v. Fed), but the Frenchman also shanked a couple easy volleys. Also haven't seen him hit a single topspin backhand, as he slices all the time. I like his forehand, though. Don't see many more eastern-semiwestern forehands anymore (other than Fed's, of course).
 
Nah, it's the 95 having strung for him a few times, and checked in his frames at others. He used to use TF Spinfire main/Xtra or Bi Phase cross, but last year he had Spinfire main/Wilson Natural cross
 
thomas martinez said:
Nah, it's the 95 having strung for him a few times, and checked in his frames at others. He used to use TF Spinfire main/Xtra or Bi Phase cross, but last year he had Spinfire main/Wilson Natural cross
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Funny how it didn't look that big when I saw his match against Federer on TV. Even in the pics it doesn't look as big as a 95 to me for some reason. But if you say it's a 95, Thomas, then it must be. Are you absolutely positive?
 
BreakPoint said:
Funny how it didn't look that big when I saw his match against Federer on TV. Even in the pics it doesn't look as big as a 95 to me for some reason. But if you say it's a 95, Thomas, then it must be. Are you absolutely positive?
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I first thought its 6.1 tour now pics show it a ps 6.0 definately the 95 in my eyes.
 
YEs, definitely a 95. Was funny a few years ago when he came in with the Tour 90/95 cosmetic on it. Messed me up a first then you take a deep breath and focus(it was a late night after a LONG day), and realize what you're working with. In this case it's down to the beam, string pattern and head size. Gilles Muller more or less plays the same frame too.
 
Against Federer, I also thought Mahut had a boxier frame than a 6.1. The pictures are not the best, but you can tell it's a 6.0 95 and not a 6.0 85 from the 95's thinner throat bridge and the more narrow space in the bottom of the "V." Also, the bottom of the head looks a bit wider, the crosses longer. Also, the throat pieces looks flatter, while on the 85 they are more curvy and concave. The bottom few crosses also look wider-spaced. Still don't know how a pro can play with that frame.
 
PrestigeClassic said:
The pictures are not the best, but you can tell it's a 6.0 95 and not a 6.0 85 from the 95's thinner throat bridge and the more narrow space in the bottom of the "V."
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Do you mean the wider space in the bottom of the "V" of the 95? If you compare the 85 and the 95, the 85 has a narrower angle "V" (i.e., more acute angle or smaller degree angle), whereas, the 95 has a bigger or wider "V" (i.e., more obtuse or larger degree angle). Makes sense as the top of the "V" supports the bottom of the hoop, and the bottom of the hoop is obviously bigger on the 95 than on the 85.

Here's a pic of the 85:

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BreakPoint said:
Do you mean the wider space in the bottom of the "V" of the 95? If you compare the 85 and the 95, the 85 has a narrower angle "V" (i.e., more acute angle or smaller degree angle), whereas, the 95 has a bigger or wider "V" (i.e., more obtuse or larger degree angle). Makes sense as the top of the "V" supports the bottom of the hoop, and the bottom of the hoop is obviously bigger on the 95 than on the 85.
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I think we're again confused with each other. Basically, I meant that there's a wider space in the bottom of the V on the 85 than on the 95. I didn't mean, in relation to the bottom of the heads, although that's true, too, because the two frames' throat bridges are actually similar lengths. Anyway, put your finger there on the 85. Much more snug on the 95, right?

Well, one reason why Wilson went with the wider bottom-of-the-V with the 85 was the neck was also wider. Yes, the bottom of the head on the 95 is of course wider--that's why you see that on that frame, the sides of the throat are straighter and angled more. Also, perhaps the wider neck/bottom-V made the smaller/thinner frame more stable. Through the Taiwan run, the space was more narrow, and the China mold had the wider space in it.
 
BreakPoint said:
I was watching Nicolas Mahut's match against Federer today and I couldn't really tell on TV if he ws using a nCode n6.1 Tour 90 or nCode n6.1 95.

http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=71340345&cdi=0

But then taking a closer inspection from the pics on Getty Images, I realized that he's actually using a PS 6.0 85 with a nCode n6.1 Tour 90 paintjob. Just take a look at the throat of his racquet in these pics:

http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=71244934&cdi=0

http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/details_pop.aspx?iid=71245007&cdi=0

It's got the unmistakable flat throat of the PS 6.0 rather than the angled cut-out or recessed triangular areas at the top two corners under the throat bridge.

No wonder Mahut has such a huge serve!! :D
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hum, this is the answer...

raquettenicoconcours1am2.jpg


raquettenicoconcours2eu9.jpg



horizontal strings are synthetics, vertical ones are natural...

http://nicomahut.skyblog.com
 
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did you just ask Mahut for an autographed racket or did you win it in an auction?
maybe at the USO i should walk upto some players and ask them for their rackets, preferably federer.
 
If you look at Mahuts most recent stick from the AO i think hes changed his racquet. Throat isnt as long and cant see the PWS. Opinions welcome, check the most recent getty images
 
LarougeNY said:
did you just ask Mahut for an autographed racket or did you win it in an auction?
maybe at the USO i should walk upto some players and ask them for their rackets, preferably federer.
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In fact I deal with Nico's blog, and he gave one of his ancient rackets for a competition on his blog ;) this one who will win the competition will win the racket :p



If you look at Mahuts most recent stick from the AO i think hes changed his racquet. Throat isnt as long and cant see the PWS. Opinions welcome, check the most recent getty images
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YEs, I know... He uses K factor... the same as Federer ;)
 
I have a question ...

What is the difference between an N6 code 95 et an N6 code 85 ?? :confused:

(I am french so if you can explain very slowly and with a very simple english :grin: )
 
refers to the racket's headsize - 85 square inches or 95 square inches. one square inch is a little more than 6 square cm, so the difference in headsize is roughly 60-65 square cm.
 
marie said:
I have a question ...

What is the difference between an N6 code 95 et an N6 code 85 ?? :confused:

(I am french so if you can explain very slowly and with a very simple english :grin: )
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There is no nCode 85, only a nCode n6.1 90 and a nCode n6.1 95. The n95 is from the PS 6.1 Classic family of racquets and has an oval beam, has either a 16x18 string pattern or a 18x20 pattern, and is also much more powerful. The n90 is from the PS 6.0 85/95 Original family of racquets and has a box beam, has a 16x19 pattern, and has less power but more feel than the n95.

Oh, and the n95 has a 95 sq. in, head while the n90 has a 90 sq. in. head, but you probably knew that already.
 
BreakPoint said:
There is no nCode 85, only a nCode n6.1 90 and a nCode n6.1 95. The n95 is from the PS 6.1 Classic family of racquets and has an oval beam, has either a 16x18 string pattern or a 18x20 pattern, and is also much more powerful. The n90 is from the PS 6.0 85/95 Original family of racquets and has a box beam, has a 16x19 pattern, and has less power but more feel than the n95.

Oh, and the n95 has a 95 sq. in, head while the n90 has a 90 sq. in. head, but you probably knew that already.
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Thanks :)
so he used a n95 :)
 
marie said:
yes but why do you think he used a PS 85 and not a N6 95 ?
You said that there are the same kind of racket... very powerful :confused:
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No, I don't think he used a PS 6.0 85. He used a PS 6.0 95 underneath the paintjob of a n95. It is painted to look like a n95 so that people will go out and buy the n95 since the PS 6.0 95 was discontinued over 5 years ago, but he really is still using the PS 6.0 95, just in disguise. ;)
 
BreakPoint said:
No, I don't think he used a PS 6.0 85. He used a PS 6.0 95 underneath the paintjob of a n95. It is painted to look like a n95 so that people will go out and buy the n95 since the PS 6.0 95 was discontinued over 5 years ago, but he really is still using the PS 6.0 95, just in disguise. ;)
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OK :grin:
Anyways, I will ask confirmation :grin:
Nico is a businessman now ! :-o
 
BreakPoint said:
No, I don't think he used a PS 6.0 85. He used a PS 6.0 95 underneath the paintjob of a n95. It is painted to look like a n95 so that people will go out and buy the n95 since the PS 6.0 95 was discontinued over 5 years ago, but he really is still using the PS 6.0 95, just in disguise. ;)
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thank you for all these explanations (and patience lol) ;)
 
marie said:
thank you for all these explanations (and patience lol) ;)
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You're quite welcome. :D

Please let us know what Nico says about his paintjob racquets. Do you know him well enough that he would admit to you what racquet he is really using underneath the marketing paintjob?
 
BreakPoint said:
You're quite welcome. :D

Please let us know what Nico says about his paintjob racquets. Do you know him well enough that he would admit to you what racquet he is really using underneath the marketing paintjob?
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Yes he will do but maybe he won't want that it be repeated... but if this story of rackets is just because of a business motivation, I don't see why it would be a secret, and beside it is not his actual racket so...
 
BreakPoint said:
You're quite welcome. :D

Please let us know what Nico says about his paintjob racquets. Do you know him well enough that he would admit to you what racquet he is really using underneath the marketing paintjob?
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So, to answer, Nico used a N 6.1 95 and, on clay, a N 6.1 tour

And his actual racquet is a K factor 95 ;)
 
Steve_El said:
marie can you take a close picture of the green sticker on the throat of the racquet?

Thank you very much!!!
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maybe I can write here what it is written on this sticker because the pix of this sticker is always blur.
Why do you need this sticker ? :confused:
 
marie said:
So, to answer, Nico used a N 6.1 95 and, on clay, a N 6.1 tour

And his actual racquet is a K factor 95 ;)
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Thanks marie, but I guess he's not that comfortable telling you what he's really using underneath the paintjob. The paint on his racquet was that of a nCode 6.1 95/90 but the real racquet underneath was a PS 6.0 95. Please tell him that we already know since we can tell just from looking at the racquet, so he might as well just tell you the truth. ;)
 
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