Nicolas Massu responsible for Thiem success

[True Fanerer]

Dominic Thiem and coach Gunter Bresnik appear to have suspended their relationship, with Thiem now working just with new coach Nicolas Massu.

Bresnik, who has trained Thiem since the 25-year-old was a child, is not scheduled to go to any events with the No. 5 during the claycourt season.

The decision appears to have been Thiem's, with the Austrian saying at a press conference a few days ago, "Fifteen or sixteen years, I spent more time with him than my parents and he probably than with his children. It's like a marriage, there are good times and bad times."

"I want the best for him," Bresnik told APA. "If that is with me, great, and if not, also great."

In addition, APA said that Thiem has been training with his father, Wolfgang, who will accompany him to Barcelona because Massu was not scheduled to be there. Bresnik described Massu as "currently a great solution" for Thiem, who is now a fully-developed player.

"Dominic is 26 this year, and publicly is still partly seen as a small child," said Bresnik. "I've always said, my ultimate goal as a coach is that Dominic is independent and completely independent."

Following an illness-affected start to the season, Thiem recently won his first Masters title at Indian Wells, where he was coached by Massu.

Thiem is next scheduled to play Monte Carlo.



http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2019...-suspend-relationship-massu-steps-role/80837/

 

[BHud]

"Seen as a small child..." WTF?

 

[Mainad]

When he says 'publicly' is Bresnik really talking about himself?

 

[Shaolin]

No more running through the forest with logs I guess.

 

[Walle]

Finally Bresnik can fully focus on his more talented player.

Bresnik was also quoted in Austrian press with the words "I don't know if I'm (still) Thiem's coach" (apparently they haven't really talked about it in detail since Thiem came back from the USA. Domi has been practicing with his Dad in Vienna these last couple of weeks, not with Bresnik) and "The form in which this is happening is debatable." And Dominic's father Wolfgang, who's friends with Bresnik and runs the academy with him, said that the situation for him was not easy because he had conflicted feelings about it. So a little drama, that's always nice.

No more running through the forest with logs I guess.

That was Sepp Resnik, not Günter Bresnik, who made Thiem do it (it's confusing, I know).

 

[Shaolin]

That was Sepp Resnik, not Günter Bresnik, who made Thiem do it (it's confusing, I know).

I feel like Trent Reznor has to be involved too somehow

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

"Seen as a small child..." WTF?

Some do still consider him "next gen" rather part of the gen useless

 

[oldmanfan]

Not sure Massu could be credited for Thiem's recent success. He already showed good hc form at USO18 (don't think Massu was on board then?), and he was always capable of peaking for one match against Claydal since 2017. His win over Fedr is a bit of peaking and luck (ballbash with most of the shots landing in), and had one shot land out on one of the BPs in sets 2&3, he'd have lost. If he can win at least one M1000 on clay this year, then I can credit Massu more.

 

[byealmeens]

Not sure Massu could be credited for Thiem's recent success. He already showed good hc form at USO18 (don't think Massu was on board then?), and he was always capable of peaking for one match against Claydal since 2017. His win over Fedr is a bit of peaking and luck (ballbash with most of the shots landing in), and had one shot land out on one of the BPs in sets 2&3, he'd have lost. If he can win at least one M1000 on clay this year, then I can credit Massu more.

Completely agree … always think it’s amazing how quickly some will credit a new coach. The components have been there and I think Thiem is peaking at the right time. He has a lot to prove on clay, however, considering his success last year. He also has the type of game that can be difficult to coach, particularly by a former player with a very different style.

 

[True Fanerer]

Not sure Massu could be credited for Thiem's recent success. He already showed good hc form at USO18 (don't think Massu was on board then?), and he was always capable of peaking for one match against Claydal since 2017. His win over Fedr is a bit of peaking and luck (ballbash with most of the shots landing in), and had one shot land out on one of the BPs in sets 2&3, he'd have lost. If he can win at least one M1000 on clay this year, then I can credit Massu more.

Completely agree … always think it’s amazing how quickly some will credit a new coach. The components have been there and I think Thiem is peaking at the right time. He has a lot to prove on clay, however, considering his success last year. He also has the type of game that can be difficult to coach, particularly by a former player with a very different style.

I won't say that he deserves 100% credit. I do think he's had an impact because he had only been working with Thiem for a month before he won IW and Thiem has already decided to stick with Massu for the duration of the clay season. A fresh point of view if nothing else.

 

[oldmanfan]

I won't say that he deserves 100% credit. I do think he's had an impact because he had only been working with Thiem for a month before he won IW and Thiem has already decided to stick with Massu for the duration of the clay season. A fresh point of view if nothing else.

Agree on the 'fresh point of view' bit.

But before Massu, Thiem was perfectly capable of peaking and ballbash himself to an upset of all Big3 when more balls land in than out (see how he blew Rafa away in Madrid18 SF and fell meekly to Z in the finals). He even bageled Nadl on HC at USO18 before choking it away. He won IW19, but then fell meekly in his first match at Miami19 to Hurkacz, someone Fedr easily dispatched during IW19 (yes, I know it's different conditions, but he should do better if bc of Massu's big plus effect, no?). Would Massu get the same praise had one of the BPs in set2 or especially set3 when Thiem served at *3-4 30-40 of IW19 finals missed, and Fedr served out the title? Thiem won, but not convincingly like when he beat Nadl in Madri18 (in straights too). That's why I think we should wait and see.

 

[True Fanerer]

Agree on the 'fresh point of view' bit.

But before Massu, Thiem was perfectly capable of peaking and ballbash himself to an upset of all Big3 when more balls land in than out (see how he blew Rafa away in Madrid18 SF and fell meekly to Z in the finals). He even bageled Nadl on HC at USO18 before choking it away. He won IW19, but then fell meekly in his first match at Miami19 to Hurkacz, someone Fedr easily dispatched during IW19 (yes, I know it's different conditions, but he should do better if bc of Massu's big plus effect, no?). Would Massu get the same praise had one of the BPs in set2 or especially set3 when Thiem served at *3-4 30-40 of IW19 finals missed, and Fedr served out the title? Thiem won, but not convincingly like when he beat Nadl in Madri18 (in straights too). That's why I think we should wait and see.

I think the lower bounce in Miami threw him off a little. Hurkacz was on a pretty good roll too gaining confidence with consecutive wins over Nishi and a win over Shapo. He served well and Thiem just couldn't bring the goods when it mattered. Massu was a clay specialist and should be able to bring something to the table strategy wise. We'll see if it sticks (haha). Thiem with a strategy could be a dangerous man

 

[oldmanfan]

I think the lower bounce in Miami three him off a little. Hurkacz was on a pretty good roll too gaining confidence with consecutive wins over Nishi and a win over Shapo. He served well and Thiem just couldn't bring the goods when it mattered. Massu was a clay specialist and should be able to bring something to the table strategy wise. We'll see if it sticks (haha). Thiem with a strategy could be a dangerous man

Look, I'd like Thiem to step up too, especially at RG and slow-USO bc since LostGen, they've made The Old Man work too hard defending his throne. That's elderly abuse ! Fedr had Nadalovic, yet they had noooo one. Before anyone cites MuryGOAT and Stanimal (yes, they did stop Djokr a bit), but well, Fedr beats them too.

But before Thiem, I want Fedr to win RG19 .

 

[byealmeens]

I won't say that he deserves 100% credit. I do think he's had an impact because he had only been working with Thiem for a month before he won IW and Thiem has already decided to stick with Massu for the duration of the clay season. A fresh point of view if nothing else.

I think he put a lot of effort into IW and had less in the tank for Miami … the Sunshine Double is a lot tougher than it may seem. As for strategy, I think he varied up his tactics under Bresnik quite a bit … might be difficult to see the adjustments given that all points are pretty much structured around his forehand. I think using his serve better, and working on court position would greatly improve his results on all surfaces, but HC for sure. I'm just not sure if Massu will make these adjustments given his own background. I do agree that the fresh perspective helped him to play freely in IW, but he also had little to prove there. Clay is where we expect more from Thiem and this where Massu will be truly tested.

 

[Qubax]

What success?

 

[Qubax]

What success?

I joke, I joke, but still...Thiem should win one of the next 6-8 slams he enters or I think he's falling short. He should be absolutely pushing to win one of the next 3 French Opens. Then I think he can be considered a success

 

[Rosstour]

Clay is where we expect more from Thiem and this where Massu will be truly tested.

Repost?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1214955996235390982

 

[Bender]

I feel like Trent Reznor has to be involved too somehow

Trent Reznor was responsible for making Thiem run barefoot on a bed of Nine Inch Nails to improve Thiem's efficiency in footwork.

Yes, it was brutal...Just Like You Imagined.

 

[soundofatrain]

Repost?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1214955996235390982

expect even more grunting and baseline bashing That being said it certainly helps to have a former grand slam winner in your corner, it’s only a question of time before Thiem wins he French .