Nike 2021 general thread

ArliHawk

Hall of Fame
Probably will in like 20 years.

It’s like Nike doesn’t want to make money from tennis players. If they would do rereleases of shoes they wouldn’t need to R and D too much for new shoes. Us old folks are perfectly happy using our incomes on stuff from the past we liked. For example, I saw another 40 year old in the toy isle looking at he man toys the other day. We both were contemplating buying one.
I’ll give you the vapor 9 rerelease and I want the court ballistec 4.3 rereleased.
 

TW Staff

Administrator
Just piping in to give a bit more from our team...our playtesters with wider feet are wearing their true size and not having an issue with width (as are our playtesters with medium and narrow feet). We agree, they feel a bit stiff but after that initial wear they are good to go!

Feeling speedy and stable in them and I stand by the fact that they feel faster than the Vapor Cage 4 and soooo stable when planting! Working on testing that durability!

That's it for now...
Michelle, TW
 

innoVAShaun

Hall of Fame
Just piping in to give a bit more from our team...our playtesters with wider feet are wearing their true size and not having an issue with width (as are our playtesters with medium and narrow feet). We agree, they feel a bit stiff but after that initial wear they are good to go!

Feeling speedy and stable in them and I stand by the fact that they feel faster than the Vapor Cage 4 and soooo stable when planting! Working on testing that durability!

That's it for now...
Michelle, TW
Thank you! Please let us know when your video drops!

Also, could you please let us know if/how they accommodate aftermarket insoles? Thanks again!
 

cortado

Semi-Pro
Anybody else look at Nike's basketball shoe range and think they look way better than any of the tennis offerings?
And the price is much better too.
 

mpournaras

Hall of Fame
Anybody else look at Nike's basketball shoe range and think they look way better than any of the tennis offerings?
And the price is much better too.
Kinda. I like the PGs... but its a totally different set of requirements for shoes. Blame modern hardcourt sliders for messing everything up
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
Just piping in to give a bit more from our team...our playtesters with wider feet are wearing their true size and not having an issue with width (as are our playtesters with medium and narrow feet). We agree, they feel a bit stiff but after that initial wear they are good to go!

Feeling speedy and stable in them and I stand by the fact that they feel faster than the Vapor Cage 4 and soooo stable when planting! Working on testing that durability!

That's it for now...
Michelle, TW
Nothing like gritty SoCal hard courts to test durability.

J
 

CHillTennis

Rookie
I’ll give you the vapor 9 rerelease and I want the court ballistec 4.3 rereleased.
Those were good shoes. I used to own a couple of pairs.

The Court Ballistec 2.3 were probably my favorite from that line.

Very durable and a lot less snug than the Vapor Cage 4.
 

HBK4life

Semi-Pro
Those were good shoes. I used to own a couple of pairs.

The Court Ballistec 2.3 were probably my favorite from that line.

Very durable and a lot less snug than the Vapor Cage 4.
2.3s were nice. I found the 2x blue pairs at Nike outlet in Arizona years ago while visiting a girl I was dating. Loved those shoes. Loved the girl. Screwed it up.


Well now I’m depressed. Shoes and girls. Same old song.
 

Dakota60

New User

Can't go wrong with classic black, white and red. These look the best out of the lot with an interesting laceless and sock fit. Though, the fine print does state that these are samples but wondering if this is a new sample or from before the NXTs were released.
 

Gemini

Hall of Fame
Honestly

Can't go wrong with classic black, white and red. These look the best out of the lot with an interesting laceless and sock fit. Though, the fine print does state that these are samples but wondering if this is a new sample or from before the NXTs were released.
Pretty sure these are concept/proto shoes before the VNXT final release.
 
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Gemini

Hall of Fame
Those were good shoes. I used to own a couple of pairs.

The Court Ballistec 2.3 were probably my favorite from that line.

Very durable and a lot less snug than the Vapor Cage 4.
The 2.3s and 3.3s were definitely my favorite Ballistecs. Both were great after I'd gotten them broken in.
 

Rosstour

Hall of Fame
I thought it was funny how Nike did the shoe mix thing of the vapor and cage with the cage 4 and now it’s a mix of the vapor and cage with the vapor nxt, with more cage than vapor lol. I mean imagine a vapor weighing more than a cage, kinda defeats the purpose?
That's why I'm no longer going to assume the Vapor branding automatically means a lightweight speed shoe. I'm not sure what Nike's thinking is behind the naming conventions at this stage.
At this point, "vapor" describes the feel more so than the weight.

Probably will in like 20 years.

It’s like Nike doesn’t want to make money from tennis players. If they would do rereleases of shoes they wouldn’t need to R and D too much for new shoes. Us old folks are perfectly happy using our incomes on stuff from the past we liked. For example, I saw another 40 year old in the toy isle looking at he man toys the other day. We both were contemplating buying one.
Vapor 9.5s were great but time has passed them by.

I do still have a pair of clay ones I use, though.
 

skfx

Rookie
Here is my first impression on NXT that Ive used today on a hard court: Ive been playing in Vapors for 7 years now pretty much, with other shoes here and there. I expected more from this shoe. A little too narrow and super high off the ground and overall feels bulky. The height definitely doesnt make you feel comfortable, feels like you can roll your ankle easily - overall feel the opposite of Vapor X. They are heavy as well, you feel it although sprinting in them works somehow, they are not slow shoes. It's not a bad shoe but the fact that this is what they've came up with as new and improved didn't meet expectations. Get yourselves Vapor AirMax95 instead. On a plus side they do look a lot more durable than Vapor Xs that I go through within a few months time.
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
Credit to that chap for trying hard with these reviews; I respect his passion. I know that, in actual fact, the running community has more in-depth reviews of products where they literally dissect running shoes, so it's good to see a tennis player doing the same. Praise aside, I'm skeptical about the tests he conducts measuring the height he can jump in shoes or fast he can run in them. One would suspect that there would be too many variables that would vary from test to test.
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
Here is my first impression on NXT that Ive used today on a hard court: Ive been playing in Vapors for 7 years now pretty much, with other shoes here and there. I expected more from this shoe. A little too narrow and super high off the ground and overall feels bulky. The height definitely doesnt make you feel comfortable, feels like you can roll your ankle easily - overall feel the opposite of Vapor X. They are heavy as well, you feel it although sprinting in them works somehow, they are not slow shoes. It's not a bad shoe but the fact that this is what they've came up with as new and improved didn't meet expectations. Get yourselves Vapor AirMax95 instead. On a plus side they do look a lot more durable than Vapor Xs that I go through within a few months time.
Thanks for telling it like it is; (y) I'll stick to the ZVC4s and X Knits - X clay courts were okay for me too, but not as supportive as others listed. Yonex Clay Eclipsion 2s still great; haven't tried 3s yet - not sure re new clay sole pattern.
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
Perhaps this staggered release is classic car salesmanship; sell the relatively undesirable model first knowing that early adopters will buy it anyway, discover it's less than stellar qualities and then be more than happy to jump to the new model which was purposely held back.
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
I, for one, am confused by the direction Nike is going with their sneakers. I also disagree with that idea that the Vapor 9.5 is somehow outdated. To me, Nike hasn't shown they can produce a superior shoe (from what I've tried). If I'm playing a match in which the fate of the free world rests on the outcome, I'm picking the 9.5s (barring no Vapor VIs available).
 

Dimpelman

New User
I, for one, am confused by the direction Nike is going with their sneakers. I also disagree with that idea that the Vapor 9.5 is somehow outdated. To me, Nike hasn't shown they can produce a superior shoe (from what I've tried). If I'm playing a match in which the fate of the free world rests on the outcome, I'm picking the 9.5s (barring no Vapor VIs available).
Totally agree with that, also, the 9 or 9.5 are both shoes i can buy, wear and play a match in instantly without have to break them in. I am sure i will buy the vapor pro, but just because i collect Vapors, not because i think they are going to be a better (looking) product.
 

widefoot

New User
Just piping in to give a bit more from our team...our playtesters with wider feet are wearing their true size and not having an issue with width (as are our playtesters with medium and narrow feet). We agree, they feel a bit stiff but after that initial wear they are good to go!

Feeling speedy and stable in them and I stand by the fact that they feel faster than the Vapor Cage 4 and soooo stable when planting! Working on testing that durability!

That's it for now...
Michelle, TW
Michelle, thanks for the info. I may try to squish my foot in. But I suspect for those of us with truly wider feet -- the EE and EEE feet -- the normal width even if on the generous size just isn't going to cut it. Can always hope to be pleasantly surprised. But I recently pulled out a pair of the old Nike iD Zoom Vapor Court 9 that they made in a true wide width, and apart from the fact since 2013 they've turned hard as rocks was impressed with when Nike made a wide shoe AND let you pick your colors. Wish they would bring that back.
 

Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
They’d see a guy confident in his manhood. I really like the orange/pink Ubersonics.
This has nothing to do with "manhood". The things are hideous (except to Jo11y, but his tennis can cover for anything, so, yea, he can get away with it). I noticed that ever since Agassi Nike has feed the garish in a huge part of its customers under the false slogan to be "different".

:cool:
 

brodd

New User
sorry if I missed it, but what's happening to the Vapor X's? Are they going to be replaced by a new line?
The model Vapor X has been discontinued but the Vapor line is still there. As far as I know there will not be a Vapor XI. Nike will release Vapor Pro any moment now, which has some similarities to X, but it looks like a mashup of X, X Knit and Cage 4.
 

TW Staff

Administrator
Michelle, thanks for the info. I may try to squish my foot in. But I suspect for those of us with truly wider feet -- the EE and EEE feet -- the normal width even if on the generous size just isn't going to cut it. Can always hope to be pleasantly surprised. But I recently pulled out a pair of the old Nike iD Zoom Vapor Court 9 that they made in a true wide width, and apart from the fact since 2013 they've turned hard as rocks was impressed with when Nike made a wide shoe AND let you pick your colors. Wish they would bring that back.
@widefoot

I can say that both Jason and Tiffani are testing the shoe as well and have wider feet, and they are OK with the width after the first couple hours on the court. And we all agree it takes a hit or two to break the shoes in. But this is definitely not a "wide" shoe option.

The bootie is more flexible than Nike shoes from the past, so hoping that helps accommodate wider feet!

Michelle, TW
 

roman_totale

New User
Just got a pair of the NXT's, I had questions about the inward pronation on them or whatever its called and after wearing them for like a minute I can tell that my knees don't like em too much I don't think. I got em from Nike directly so I can try em on the court and see what I think then return them.

For reference I've worn a 9US in Gel Res8, SoleCourt Boost and Uber 2s and 9.5US in GP Turbo, ZoomZero and Vapor X (same problem with pronation though) and a 9US in the NXT is pretty much perfect. A little more snug than my usual sizing in the other shoes I've mentioned but probably a better fit overall. I have a pretty narrow foot too btw and these are pretty snug out of the box but I can see how they'd break in.
 

GLaSnoST9

New User
Does anyone know what socks Rafael Nadal wears? I searched on the forum and saw some threads but they are from years ago. From my research it looks like he wears the Nike Grip Elite crew socks? I can't seem to find them anywhere. Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
 

David Le

Hall of Fame
Does anyone know what socks Rafael Nadal wears? I searched on the forum and saw some threads but they are from years ago. From my research it looks like he wears the Nike Grip Elite crew socks? I can't seem to find them anywhere. Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
He wears a polycotton blend Dri-Fit socks to make them look like the Nike Grip Elite Socks.
 

David Le

Hall of Fame
Thanks! Can you send me a link to the polycotton blend socks? I'm not sure if I know what those look like.
It’s the Nike Fit Dry Tennis Crew from years ago. You may can find them on the auction site, but might pay a little more than you’d like. The closest thing would be the Nike Everyday Max Cushioned Crew.
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
@TW Staff I owe Michelle an apology.

Wore the NXT teaching all day and hit with another pro for an hour. They don't feel heavy or clunky at all. They feel lighter than the VC4 but heavier than the X.

I wore them on clay and the traction was FAR better than I expected. Haven't played on hard in them so will reserve comment.

I like the pronated feel and it's nice because I play with a pretty wide base, but it wasn't uncomfortable standing around coaching.

One big big problem. There is a sharp wedge, flare out by the pinky toe that gives nice stabilization moving laterally but I almost rolled my ankle stepping back on a volley.

I'm going to do some footwork drills and feel it out but it was a brief scary moment.

J
 

widefoot

New User
@widefoot

I can say that both Jason and Tiffani are testing the shoe as well and have wider feet, and they are OK with the width after the first couple hours on the court. And we all agree it takes a hit or two to break the shoes in. But this is definitely not a "wide" shoe option.

The bootie is more flexible than Nike shoes from the past, so hoping that helps accommodate wider feet!

Michelle, TW
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Thanks again Michelle. Hope springs eternal
 
Just tried out the Vapor NXT's... Awful. The upper is horrendously designed - it feels like you're dragging the sole around.

Why on earth would they discontinue X's & Prestige before releasing the Vapor Pro's?
 
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