What percentage of a discount what you say you bought previous collections for?
I know their last season purple tank top is on sale but trying to figure out if I should hold out for a larger discount.
Nike 2025 General Thread
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I know their last season purple tank top is on sale but trying to figure out if I should hold out for a larger discount.
Tennisfan077
New User
Just a way better deal was offered, still had a couple years left on Nike and still left… reason why a lot of past players left Nike they were low balling the new contracts
Happytennis
Rookie
I cant see why Nike “needs” Musetti. Good player for sure but average results. I like him though and truly hopes he will get a slam some day. But with Sinner who is the biggest sportstar in Italy Nike doesn’t really need to pay any thing more to maximise that market.
And Nikes “type” are Winners and number ones. They want to be associated with the absolute best; their slogan for the Olympics was “winning is everything”. They bet on upcoming stars, keep them if they perform and ditch them if they don’t.
Rosstour
Talk Tennis Guru
Average results in 2024: bronze medal in singles, Wimbledon SF and Queen's final, won more matches on grass than anyone else, finished inside the Top 20
These are not "average" results
jmacdaununder2
Legend
Unfortunately, in comparison with the two Nike guys that won all four majors between them last year, they are.
Rosstour
Talk Tennis Guru
I understand, but then you add his movie star looks and elegant game you have box office gold
Musetti is a master of getting the color pairings right, he always nailed his Nike fits
testrada
Rookie
I was watching some gym practices for Alcaraz and he will apparently use the same Vapor 11 customs he used last year in a volt/green colorway. His team is using the actual Vapor 12’s. I don’t know if this is because the 12’s aren’t released yet or is it because he just prefers his customs. It seems like Rune is also back to the Vapor Pro 1’s
knowing his contract wasnt going to be renewed?
if so, he is pretty lucky to have scored his new sponsors prior to his Nike contract expiry. lol
Happytennis
Rookie
Obviously great results but he’s not winning anything.
I do agree on his aesthetics but again Nike wants (oppose to a few years ago) keep their portfolio small with only a handful of players they believe are dominating
Personally I hope Musetti will get a slam some day but I’m not sure he will. Like tsitsipas; can see him as a very solid top 10 for a long time even going up to world 2-3
gino
Legend
Osaka line flopped hard. Let’s see if they learn from that
Rosstour
Talk Tennis Guru
Do tell, I wouldn't know where to look for info like this
Have nike stopped making swoosh bandana's given noone pro is left to wear them?
Nadal retired, musetti gone, fritz gone, rublev gone only shapovalov left
Rosstour
Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal may be retired but his line is immortal
JoshDragon
Hall of Fame
Rosstour
Talk Tennis Guru
I'm no connoisseur here but I feel like he could be the best looking guy on tour. If his competitors are Mats and Grigor I think he stacks up pretty well. I jokingly call him Lorenzo Atreides. I come from a media/politics upbringing so I involuntarily evaluate this stuff. Looks, names, etc. all matter when determining marketability or electability
Maybe ask @MichaelNadal but he has weird taste. He probably likes Cressy better
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
yourtennisfit
Professional
That sounds pretty fragile
Look at Alcaraz today and tell me this is feminine
gotta hit that gym buddyarthurli22
Semi-Pro
Top Athletes like Carlitos have great bargaining power. If he said no to your shoes, you can only make him a pair of customs.
The only question now is who will wear the real Vapor 12 on court.
Many here were expecting most if not all of the pros switching to Vapor 12.
The only question now is who will wear the real Vapor 12 on court.
Many here were expecting most if not all of the pros switching to Vapor 12.
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That's the question. I wonder about how much is the impact of Sinner/Alcaraz not wearing the new shoes. I'd guess is quite big, once they should be the two out of three players, along with Djokovic, that people get what they're using
henrytennisadelaide
Semi-Pro
Anyone else find it weird that Nike goes to the effort of creating PE's for Carlos' shoes in line with the colourways of the retail models but never does for Sinner?
yourtennisfit
Professional
If you're Alcaraz or Nadal, they will build you a special shoe and make sure to market the newest shoe in the same colorscheme
If you're Dimitrov or below, you need to pay for your own shoe if you want to play the 9.5s probably
337tennis
Rookie
This kit is actually nice better on person. Second most tennis players are superstitious so changing to a totally different shoe is outrageous to them.
Back into his PE he goes. I have minimum knowledge on marketing/sales, but to have your top performance players wearing old shoes from a couple of gens ago, while you've just released 2 new models. That's not a great sign to me
Rosstour
Talk Tennis Guru
That sounds pretty fragile
Look at Alcaraz today and tell me this is feminine
The colorblock is a curve. Would prefer straight lines for a dude's tank. And I look fine already sir, sub-13% BF. Have all of Alcaraz tanks from late last season, just passing on this one for the reasons stated
It's a very bad design and Carlos did not look great in it R1. Bummer.
innoVAShaun
G.O.A.T.
Rosstour
Talk Tennis Guru
Crazy that we're at 10 years exactly from the Volt 9.5s Fed wore
I get that it is a big change, but I would expect at least the shoes to be as close to the VP12 cosmetics as possible, as they did with the 11. I get that there is plenty of differences like the lacing, lateral piece,..., and to me the major difference would be the outsole, which I wouldn't be surprised if Alcaraz never changes them throughout his career
gino
Legend
Unbelievable
Back into his PE he goes. I have minimum knowledge on marketing/sales, but to have your top performance players wearing old shoes from a couple of gens ago, while you've just released 2 new models. That's not a great sign to me
Rosstour
Talk Tennis Guru
At some point you have to stop blaming the company
Unless we really want to argue that the Zoom Zero is a better shoe than the GP Turbo and that's why Sinner continues to wear it.
gino
Legend
Do we ? If the two best athletes are wearing shoes not available to consumers, I think that’s something we can perpetually blame on the company (one for not legally assuring they would have to use new shoes & two not building good enough retail shoes for them to slot into). If you can get Nadal (most superstitious player ever) into 10+ uppers in his career, you theoretically should be able to do the same with these two
IMO this miss is worse then letting the whole other cast of characters go that endorsed retail shoes (Lore, Frances, etc). Also amplifies that issue. So now they have really only Draper at the top tier of the atp wearing a shoe consumers can buy. If the strategy is to sell GP challenge pros to pickleball players they are doing an exceptional job. We can praise them for inking sinner and alcaraz, but also be critical of how they are using their likeness imo (no logos, old shoes, no sig gear)
JoshDragon
Hall of Fame
Apparently Nike does not share your opinion. Or they would not have dropped him.
Rosstour
Talk Tennis Guru
Do you think there is any shoe that can get Sinner out of Zoom Zeros?
This isn't a lot different to racquets. Are Head and Wilson trash because their pros are all using pro stocks with paint jobs?
Your logic would say yes, those companies are failing because the pros aren't using their retail racquets.
Rosstour
Talk Tennis Guru
They clearly don't. They like certain types of looks, and I will leave it at that.
Happytennis
Rookie
Don't agree with you on this one
I think I know what you mean when you say looks, but Sinner clearly does not have the "Nike look", and Nikes big golf star Scottie Scheffler definitely doesn't either. Like ive stated before; Nike wants to be associated with winning and number ones, and thats because tennis is a pretty small community, but if you ask the average sports fan, they probably know who Carlos Alcaraz or Jannik sinner are, and these two are shown in regular media and in newspapers, etc.. No one outside of tennis knows Musetti or Francis Tiafoe.
Rosstour
Talk Tennis Guru
Right, Sinner doesn't have the Nike look and that is why I think it's not really a happy marriage
Tiafoe had the look they want. Musetti doesn't. So I predicted that they would cut Musetti loose, but I didn't see Tiafoe coming.
They want to be associated with winning and #1s, yet they make more PE gear for Nick Kyrgios than they do for Sinner.
If that's the case, I guess they can take Sinner and Alcaraz, specially Alcaraz, which I just don't see leaving Nike, and make a personal shoe line for them according to their shoe taste and needs in a shoe, and put it on the market. I guess it would be even possible to get the 1:1 shoes, cause I don't think they would ask for something that would make it more expensive than retail, like Federer with his custom outsole with the carbon fiber shank.
Another issue is that it seems that maybe for Sinner and Alcaraz they've realised that the shoes they're wearing right now are nearly perfect for them and they don't need any changes. Which could lead to a never discontinued shoe as long as they're playing
Rosstour
Talk Tennis Guru
I didn't hear the complaint nearly as much when Rafa was playing with his CB/Cage hybrids.
In Sinner's case they would just be retroing the Air Zoom Zero. Ok. That's one. Let's do that--that shoe sold really well and I'm sure it would make tons of money for them
In Carlos's case you have a VP1 outsole on a Vapor 11 upper. Durability would be an issue and customers would complain as they did with the Vapor 9.5
V11s are a much more durable shoe than the 9/9.5/X
This is like being a fan of a car company and having to listen to people complain that all the new cars are bloated and stupid, and all they want is an old Integra or 3-series from the 90s and why can't we just have that too?
Happytennis
Rookie
Yeah I agree with you on that one with Nick - thats weird.
About Tiafoe I am as suprised as you are. He really rocks thier outfits. Remember the 2022 AO open outfit he wore with the crazy colors and sleeve less shirt? Really cool brandning and NO ONE could have pulled it of except him. Imagine Sinner in that...
Rosstour
Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah. They were doing PE/limited run stuff for him like they did for Dimitrov. I bought that purple tank from last year.
2022? I think you mean 2023. Alcaraz and him both had PE sleeveless versions of the retail Slam crew.
Challenge accepted on "no one else could wear that"--I've got one in the mail
I would have expected Alcaraz with vp12 and sole Vp1 as he had tested before the A.O. 2025...
The conditions were "good", but a few days before he put the custom vp1 back on!
In basketball, even if it is a slightly different situation, the various testimonials have personalized shoes, which can also be purchased by ordinary people...
Virtually every brand, except Nike, produces shoes for the main players, which can also be purchased by ordinary people; Lacoste, Asics (Djokovic, Berrettini, De Minaur...), Adidas su tutti (e.g. Zverev - deflant speed 2, Tsitsipas and Aliassime - Barricade 13)...
The conditions were "good", but a few days before he put the custom vp1 back on!
In basketball, even if it is a slightly different situation, the various testimonials have personalized shoes, which can also be purchased by ordinary people...
Virtually every brand, except Nike, produces shoes for the main players, which can also be purchased by ordinary people; Lacoste, Asics (Djokovic, Berrettini, De Minaur...), Adidas su tutti (e.g. Zverev - deflant speed 2, Tsitsipas and Aliassime - Barricade 13)...
