Nike Fall 2019

gusgrand

Rookie
Bonded seams - Gone!
Simple yet effective designs - Gone!
Covetability - Gone!
Looking to the future - gone!
Federer - So so F**king gone!
To say that they have lost their way would be a gross understatement.
 

Georgek

New User
Babolast . Is that a good wow or bad wow in your opinion ? Lol
Some pics of Rafa wearing a new shoe and sleeveless hot pinkish lava shirt are out there
 

Nicholo

New User
I’m also very curious when they will launch the line they are supposedly making especially for Naomi Osaka. Curious what that will look like. With Maria she always wears a familiar cut and it works well for her figure. I wonder if they will come up with a unique cut for Nao-chi
 

gusgrand

Rookie
Actually:

- bonded seems gone is good
- simple designs are a cop out for not putting any effort, so, that departure is a good thing. Of course, botching the "complex" designs isn't preferable, so I can see how the simple designs can be a good thing
- "covetability" with Nike is a function mostly of brainwashing, so I don't see how the designs change anything
- looking to the future - don't know
- Federer - obviously, but I thought that the Nike fans around here announced that that is a good thing for Nike?

:cool:
- If bonded seems gone is good why does Nike still use this, but only on the shoulders?
- A simple design is not a cop-out, its where good design of almost all product types live.
- Covetability" with Nike is a function mostly of brainwashing... erm yeah, welcome to the entire world of nice products!
- Who on earth is a Nike tennis product fan and likes the fact that Federer has left the company?... not that I don't think he looks just as dope in Uniqlo gear as he's proven that clothes do not make the man!

Although I don't agree with most of it, your opinion is still valid!
 
I'm sorry if it was posted and I can't find it... What are the next release dates? Isn't the next the day the US Open starts? The week of the 26th?
 

gusgrand

Rookie
- there have been enough complaints about bonded seems being a problem, so Nike (and others) continue to do it because it is cheaper and due to the planned obsolesce
- it is which is why all low priced offers of the apparel companies feature exactly that
- considering that I live in a world of "nice products" I think I know a thing or two about it. Nike is run-off-the-mill bog standard apparel, so the only explanation for developing emotional bond with something like that is exactly what I say. The amount of people that swear by the swoosh regardless of what the abuse that they have to take from the company is simply astounding
- I guess you missed all the knee jerk reactions around here at the wake of the news.

Here. People throwing kidneys, washing their eyes with bleach etc etc. There were literally tens of threads like those:


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I can't help the ones who bought the RF gear and obliterated it in the wash. washing instructions are there for a reason, I followed them and all my RF gear looks virtually the same as the day I bought them and at the time the Nike RF line was the only tennis brand making bonded seem apparel, then when Adidas started doing it their seems were extremely rigid, unlike the Nike RF apparel.
The other day (roughly two weeks ago) my partner washed a pair of my older Nike tennis shorts on a regular was with her clothes... the swoosh broke down in parts, you know why?... she paid zero attention to the washing instructions, but did apologize with a very nice meal.

To be honest, I don't care much for knee jerk reactions from kids, I used to be a kid once and as an adult, I couldn't say that I would hold anything I said as a "knee-jerk reaction" in any regard, so if you do, then have at it!
In regards to your claim that you live in a world of "nice products" and think that you know a thing or two about it, you might not be alone there as I too work in High-end design industry for my entire working life, but not something I am willing to use as an argument, it's just a fact and I know many others who do too who also play tennis.

I think we are coming from two different angles here and what brings us together is the love of tennis and maybe that's the only thing, but it's still a thing!
 

gusgrand

Rookie
Nope. That has nothing to do with washing instructions (that has also been addressed).

I said alluded to the "nice things" to stop you from gushing over an absolutely standard athletic apparel. Nike are middle range tennis apparel with overinflated prices, and most of their products are, shall we say substandard (just like any big brand that tries to cover various price levels including lower ones with cheap products, with the difference that even their "cheap" lines are not particularly cheap for the quality). If you come from such world you would know it. The fact that you think that Nike is "nice" says a lot about what the truth is. I liked how you tried to side-step the facts that I provided with the links I have posted. It is a reality and not particularly flattering. You can abstain from commenting further, since you don't want to. I also liked how you involved Adidas in this. No Nike fanboy misses the chance to **** on them whenever they feel that their favourite brand is under attack. There is also a reason why that is, but the best thing is that Nike and Adidas use exactly the same technology (developed by the same company), so you finding vast differences is nothing short of entertaining.

As for Nike pioneering the bonded seams, the bonded seams were used by other sports industries long before Nike even thought about introducing it, but the company that prompted the widespread use of that technology in tennis first worked with Under Armour on their athletic apparel, before Nike started using it for their tennis lines. It is also done mostly for cost savings and the negatives for the consumer from using it are apparent, unlike the main positives, which are for the producer to pocket even more cash from an already über-expensive for the quality product. That would apply to any company that uses it, of course. Also, the technology itself has been used for decades by the mountaineering industry with absolutely the same results: the apparels that are with bonded seams need to be repaired after a certain period of time (even the most expensive ones like the products by Mammut and Arcteryx).

:cool:
I think you could benefit from reading my post again, but if you don't want to I won't blame you, but this conversation with you is getting stale and very boring.
On second thoughts, I think I've had a tangle with you before no?
You seem absolutely determined to start a fight so I'm guessing you are either quite young or perhaps bored... I am neither so I will say good day to you sir and perhaps one day you will learn the art of fighting without fighting!

Bye-bye Tennis_Hands and may all your hopes and dreams come true
 
Anyone who liked Denis' shoes this week will like a SP20 offering... slightly similar to what he wore this week.
The economics are interesting. I don’t feel like the X Knit is catching on. I have the Lava, will get the US Open version. I saw one player in Montreal (other than Shapo) that had it as a spare shoe. I didn’t think the price tag would be an issue but maybe it is. I thought I read the Cage 4 would be even more expensive?

If Nike is recycling the light green again, I really hope we’ll all be excited as you are for Nike 2020.
 

SDN

Semi-Pro
On a known German tennis site , in one of the initial pages there is a photo of Sloane Stephens wearing the Nike Jordan .... but I think the sole is that of the Zoom Zero!!
It looks like another basketball shoe adapted to tennis
 

ArliHawk

Hall of Fame
Anyone have the cage, zoom zero, or vapor in the light bone color? Some places it looks khaki, on others it looks grey. Just curious what it’s closer to color wise.
 

David Le

Hall of Fame
Anyone have the cage, zoom zero, or vapor in the light bone color? Some places it looks khaki, on others it looks grey. Just curious what it’s closer to color wise.
It’s more like khaki but really light. It also depends on the lighting too.
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
I wonder if we'll get to see 'Nick the Dick' wearing these, or if he's going to be sanctioned quickly enough for his USO participation to be affected?
I really like the colours, but I still find the 'Venus Flytrap' element - as someone has christened it - particularly unappealing, and the heel design is still awkward. If they had done something similar with the 'regular' USO Vapor X instead of releasing the somewhat boring metallic variation that would have been something.
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
Yeah, looks like a 'normal' Vapor X with some weirda$$ glow in the dark purple plant from Pandora growing on it. Perfect for a wack job like Nick!
 

SDN

Semi-Pro
There was some noise on the release of the Nike Air tech Challenge I (Agassi 1989) for Us Open '19, but for now no concrete confirmation.
 

teckid

Rookie
Is this Nike Court Logo T-shirt on the guy to the far left available retail or is it a PE? I can't seem to find it in the latest few seasons on TW, but maybe I missed it?

(From Kei's Twitter)

 
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