It's made for clay with it's outsole specific design, but comes with a six month guarantee for use on hard courts.
That makes no sense at all. Why would they offer a 6 month outsole durability warranty for use on hard courts if the sole was designed for use on clay courts?????
That's like Goodyear tires designed for the race track offering a 12 month warranty for off-road 4x4 use.
Although the BF3 may have been listed by TW as being "Suitable for Clay", I don't think they were designed specifically for clay. A Nike shoe that was specifically designed for clay would be, for example, the Air Oscillate Clay version shoe, which had a special herringbone sole tread that works best on clay:
There is no argument. You were just clearly wrong as shown by all the evidence. Neither the BFII nor the BF3 with the standard honeycomb soles were specifically designed as clay court shoes. That's why Nike makes a different clay version of the BF3 with the clay specific herringbone soles.
They allow you to slide but also allow you to change direction well on clay. Also, I think because the gaps in the herringbone tread pattern are very thin and shallow instead of having a deep tread or a pattern with big gaps, it's less likely that clay will get stuck in the bottom of the soles, but that's just my assumption.
I don't think the Feathers were specifically designed for clay. I think people just use them for clay because they're terrible for hardcourts as the soles are not as durable nor as well cushioned as the Barricades.
Most shoes designed specifically for clay have herringbone patterns, as the Oscillate and BF3 clay versions above.
No, I am not out of my mind.
But if that were true, why did Nike bother to make a clay specific version of the BF3 without the honeycomb outsole but a herringbone outsole instead?
Ugh....what part of - "Its unique outsole is made especially for hard courts" did you NOT understand?
I didn't write this. It's on Adidas' own consumer website, viewable by the entire world. So are you a shoe designer for Adidas or do you just have an uncanny ability to read their minds?
But if that were true, why did Nike bother to make a clay specific version of the BF3 without the honeycomb outsole but a herringbone outsole instead?
I understand what you're saying but I guess they didn't really save any outsole mold costs after all as they did also make the clay specific BF3 with the herringbone outsole so they, of course, also had to make and pay for that herringbone outsole mold as well.
No, it doesn't. You're right, the Feathers outsole was specifically designed for clay courts and "especially made for hard courts". :roll:
Ugh....what part of - "Its unique outsole is made especially for hard courts" did you NOT understand?
Are you telling me that you know that Adidas designed the outsole on the Feathers especially for clay courts when they state clearly themselves that, and I quote,: "Its unique outsole is made especially for hard courts" ?
It doesn't matter that they work well on clay, the FACT remains they were DESIGNED "especially for hard courts". Their poor performance on hard courts is mostly due to their lack of cushioning, support, and the fact the soles are not very durable so they wear out fast on hardcourts, and not because of the tread design.
My Nike soccer shorts and shirts work well for tennis, but were they designed especially for tennis? No!
No, it doesn't matter how well they work on clay because this discussion is about what a shoe is specifically designed for. If you don't understand that, then please go back and re-read post #2 by AC. This is not a thread about clay court shoes. If you notice, the topic of this thread is Vapor IV vs. Breathe Free II. Are either of these shoes specifically designed for clay? It doesn't matter to me at all how well they work on clay because I don't play on clay. The debate is whether or not they are designed or made especially for clay and if they are marketed specifically as clay court shoes. The answer is no to both. The fact that they may or may not work well on clay is irrelevant to this discussion. BTW, they don't.
You'd have to ask Adidas and Nike why they label some shoes as "especially made for hard courts" or "specifically designed for clay courts" or calling some shoes "clay versions" and others not, etc.
I think you mean TW would be a much better place if there wasn't wrong information being posted by unknowledgeable people. :roll:FYI: there's more than just one way of viewing things, but I guess a p!ssing contest (while throwing in some childish comments) will solve the whole issue!
I can't believe every thread becomes like this when someone can't take that their opinion is different from everyone elses'. Suck it up, and allow yourself to stop being so self-centered.
BTW, neither the Nike Breathe Free II nor the Adidas Feathers were specifically designed for clay (contrary to your claim about the BFII and it's honeycomb outsole). This is not a matter of opinion. This is a FACT.
But it does matter. If the Oscillates Clay shoes are marketed as "Clay Court Versions" and "specifically designed for clay courts", you would probably never buy them and try them if you only play on hardcourts, even though they may work fine on hardcourts.
