Nike Vapor X

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
why is it that NIKE won't put in their new Nike React cushioning in this great shoe ?? Won't that make this shoe like Perfect shoes ? or would it make this shoe too heavy ?
 

Voskenaas

New User
To bad Nike did not color the sole in black too. I even went to Nike custom shop online butvit only one color for the sole, white! I wear my tennis shoes for walking around town too and white sole gets dirty in a day or two and looks dirty and have to use garden hose and brush to clean it. Not happy no black sole.
I REALLY like the black Vapors X (including the white sole!). Does anyone have a picture of the black ones when actually being worn by someone? This can make a shoe really look different. And I hate ordering shoes online and then returning them and then ordering again another pair and ... ... ...
 

alexg

New User
Oh yes I see it now, but I would have completely missed it without your explanation. So those tiny pyramids are hard plastic?? That seems like a flaw in the design for sure, especially if they extend out past the rest of the shank plate. How are you liking the outsole other than that?
That shank plate piece is recessed. It does not touch the ground at rest. I guess if you bend the shoe you could make it contact the ground, hence the supposed utility of the pyramids.

On the 9.5s, the shank plate is smoother (not totally smooth), and it splits the outsole completely in two. On the vapor X, the outsole is one piece that contours the shank piece. Different design.

In practice I find both shoes quite stable, maybe with a slight edge for the X, with an "outside of the foot anchor" feeling. This is due to the outsole heel design that protrudes further out on the side, as well as a design that promotes a bit more pronation. In other words the 9.5s feel like they are resting flat when your feet are closer together, and the Vapor X feel like they are resting flat when your feet are slighter further apart. Or, if you keep your feet at the same distance, the Vapor X has your ankles rolled in a tiny bit more. Hopefully that makes sense.

See picture. White and red on the left is 9.5 tours, B&W on the right is Vapor X. Left foot.






 
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XFactorer

Hall of Fame
Oh yes I see it now, but I would have completely missed it without your explanation. So those tiny pyramids are hard plastic?? That seems like a flaw in the design for sure, especially if they extend out past the rest of the shank plate. How are you liking the outsole other than that?
They aren't extending out past the outsole. If you place the shoe on a table, you can see there's some clearance. But for me, somehow, during play, I am heavy enough that the plate depresses and does contact the court. I shaved the tiny pyramids in my testing of the shoe. But no one else has mentioned it, so it could just be I'm a heavier player.

The outsole pattern, I believe, is a major upgrade. The way it's built gives good give when sliding and grips the court tightly when you need. I played in mine for 4 hours and decided the shank plate is the deal breaker for me.
 

sp1derman

Semi-Pro
They aren't extending out past the outsole. If you place the shoe on a table, you can see there's some clearance. But for me, somehow, during play, I am heavy enough that the plate depresses and does contact the court. I shaved the tiny pyramids in my testing of the shoe. But no one else has mentioned it, so it could just be I'm a heavier player.

The outsole pattern, I believe, is a major upgrade. The way it's built gives good give when sliding and grips the court tightly when you need. I played in mine for 4 hours and decided the shank plate is the deal breaker for me.
I'm a bigger guy and considering these but also worry about sliding on the hard plastic shank as I did occasionally with the 9.5s. I'm 195lbs, if you don't mind saying how much do you weigh so I can consider options?
 

XFactorer

Hall of Fame
I'm a bigger guy and considering these but also worry about sliding on the hard plastic shank as I did occasionally with the 9.5s. I'm 195lbs, if you don't mind saying how much do you weigh so I can consider options?
I can only extrapolate that you'll probably slide on the shank plate, too. We're all different with our footwork. But you can buy direct from the manufacturer to try out the shoe fully and return if it doesn't work for you. I never slid on the 9.5 shank plates, but I did in the Cages and the new Vapors.
 

XFactorer

Hall of Fame
Thanks for the reply. I'm going to give Asics a shot
Which ones? I tried some of those on in my quest to find a replacement shoe... I have the same shank plate concerns with the Court FFs. They're like the Vapors in terms of being a lightweight, 'speed' shoe.
 

sp1derman

Semi-Pro
Which ones? I tried some of those on in my quest to find a replacement shoe... I have the same shank plate concerns with the Court FFs. They're like the Vapors in terms of being a lightweight, 'speed' shoe.
I was just zooming in on the FF shank plate as well and at least it is flat like the vapors uses to be. I'm probably a month away before my current 9.5s are worn through so I'm kind of waiting for sales and no heel slippage issues because that drives me nuts when playing.
 

XFactorer

Hall of Fame
I was just zooming in on the FF shank plate as well and at least it is flat like the vapors uses to be. I'm probably a month away before my current 9.5s are worn through so I'm kind of waiting for sales and no heel slippage issues because that drives me nuts when playing.
I can't vouch for the shank plate performance on the FF, but I can say there is no heel slippage for me. But I didn't have heel slippage in the Vapor 9.5 or X.
 

Bobby Jr

G.O.A.T.
IMO that's just a production quirk. Many times in the past I've noticed that some shoes I've bought (the same shoe - V9s or V9.5s) have that lean while others don't. I don't think it's a deliberate design feature - more a highlight of just how much variability there is in production of shoes - often. It's often more than people think.
...Or, if you keep your feet at the same distance, the Vapor X has your ankles rolled in a tiny bit more. Hopefully that makes sense.

See picture. White and red on the left is 9.5 tours, B&W on the right is Vapor X. Left foot.




 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
That shank plate piece is recessed. It does not touch the ground at rest. I guess if you bend the shoe you could make it contact the ground, hence the supposed utility of the pyramids.

On the 9.5s, the shank plate is smoother (not totally smooth), and it splits the outsole completely in two. On the vapor X, the outsole is one piece that contours the shank piece. Different design.

In practice I find both shoes quite stable, maybe with a slight edge for the X, with an "outside of the foot anchor" feeling. This is due to the outsole heel design that protrudes further out on the side, as well as a design that promotes a bit more pronation. In other words the 9.5s feel like they are resting flat when your feet are closer together, and the Vapor X feel like they are resting flat when your feet are slighter further apart. Or, if you keep your feet at the same distance, the Vapor X has your ankles rolled in a tiny bit more. Hopefully that makes sense.

See picture. White and red on the left is 9.5 tours, B&W on the right is Vapor X. Left foot.






Defintiely looks like the NEW vapor has thicker cushioning ....... is this true ?
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
I've found the X to have much better cushioning than the 9.5. Every Sunday I teach 11 lessons, and wearing the 9.5 all day my feet would be somewhat sore. Wore the X all day this past Sunday, and had zero foot soreness or fatigue.
Agree. Not sure if it is just an optical illusion but from above picture, X looks like it has thicker cushioning and also sits up little bit higher off the ground. Maybe Roger Federer asked for this from Nike since he is getting old and his knees need thicker cushioning ?
 

Jmauer

Semi-Pro
Is it just me or does it seem like so often they ALMOST nail the color ways, but it's like you can always count on ONE color being weird/off?

Example:

Take the Vapor X jordan 1 inspired color way or the Vapor X black/white color way.

Make the swoosh white instead of red/black, respectively.

anybody else? or just me?

Btw, contrary to the theme of this post, I am loving those black/white/lime green samples above!
 

Jmauer

Semi-Pro
All that white sure is unflattering when it comes to the design of this version. Again, I am so hoping they went function over form! I think that @TW Staff play test may drop soon and I am SO looking forward to hearing their take on performance.
 
I got the Red/Black Jordan-lite colorway and I'm really impressed. I bought them for casual wear, but I'm leaning on buying another pair for performance. I like these better than the 9.5 flyknits and the Vapor X actually fit TTS.

Though I was surprised how vibrant the red was in person. The pictures are a little deceiving in that regard.
 

ArliHawk

Hall of Fame
I got the Red/Black Jordan-lite colorway and I'm really impressed. I bought them for casual wear, but I'm leaning on buying another pair for performance. I like these better than the 9.5 flyknits and the Vapor X actually fit TTS.

Though I was surprised how vibrant the red was in person. The pictures are a little deceiving in that regard.
Just took these for a spin, and I like the, better than the 9.5s. Really like the Jordan inspired colorway.
 

Jmauer

Semi-Pro
I came across this description: “Nike Air Zoom Vapor Federer X AM 95 Heren”

I was thinking the AM stands for AirMax but I was just hypothesizing. Unfortunately I don’t have any actual info.
@Just In interesting. someone on niketalk mentioned that a vapor x collab was coming but didn't offer any further details.

will be interesting to see what, if anything, is coming, and if it has connection to the 95.
 

Frans Bleker

Professional
Try'd them and like alot of others they are too tight for me. The length is fine but they are to narrow at my front foot. Hopefully Nike will release more colours in a wide version.
 

Jmauer

Semi-Pro
Gave the X a short little test drive today. Just some light hitting against the wall for 10-15 minutes.

Here are my impressions, should anyone be interested in a VERY SMALL sample:

The shoe is definitely performance oriented.

The Vapor 9/9.5 was plenty solid performance wise, but emphasis was comfort imho.

They went a new direction here. It is a minimalist shoe. Not bad or good, per se - just a different direction. Matierials seem solid in some areas but not in others.

This shoe definitely makes me think of a high performance vehicle. It is not about comfort. It's about performance.

Where the seems like it may excel - lateral stability on inside and outside of the foot. I don't know if it is the "claws" on the sides, but the shoe feels extremely stable laterally. Foot feels like it's got walls on either side. I thought this could be a great feature while playing, but haven't truly played in them of course, so I can't say for sure.

The shape of the shoe seems to me to be very similar to a running shoe, especially in the forefoot. The materials seem to echo this impression - the shoe is meant to be as light as possible.

The lacing system, however, is not nearly as good as the 9/9.5. Whereas the 9/9.5 lacing was both simple and brilliant, this lacing system is complicated and ineffective. With the 9/9.5 you really feel like the shoe is cinched down on the top of the feet (especially with that thick tongue, too), but I did not get anything like this feeling with the X.

Overall feeling was this:

Really , light, performance driven footwear

Not comfortable/plush and top of foot doesn't feel locked down

I did try to slide a little bit to test out grip but:

1. I didn't have enough room
2. I am older generation so I don't slide (except on clay, baby!)

Seriously, I couldn't get a good enough take on the soles from a short sampling of wall-hitting - would have to give them a spin for real.
 
Gave the X a short little test drive today. Just some light hitting against the wall for 10-15 minutes.

Here are my impressions, should anyone be interested in a VERY SMALL sample:

The shoe is definitely performance oriented.

The Vapor 9/9.5 was plenty solid performance wise, but emphasis was comfort imho.

They went a new direction here. It is a minimalist shoe. Not bad or good, per se - just a different direction. Matierials seem solid in some areas but not in others.

This shoe definitely makes me think of a high performance vehicle. It is not about comfort. It's about performance.

Where the seems like it may excel - lateral stability on inside and outside of the foot. I don't know if it is the "claws" on the sides, but the shoe feels extremely stable laterally. Foot feels like it's got walls on either side. I thought this could be a great feature while playing, but haven't truly played in them of course, so I can't say for sure.

The shape of the shoe seems to me to be very similar to a running shoe, especially in the forefoot. The materials seem to echo this impression - the shoe is meant to be as light as possible.

The lacing system, however, is not nearly as good as the 9/9.5. Whereas the 9/9.5 lacing was both simple and brilliant, this lacing system is complicated and ineffective. With the 9/9.5 you really feel like the shoe is cinched down on the top of the feet (especially with that thick tongue, too), but I did not get anything like this feeling with the X.

Overall feeling was this:

Really , light, performance driven footwear

Not comfortable/plush and top of foot doesn't feel locked down

I did try to slide a little bit to test out grip but:

1. I didn't have enough room
2. I am older generation so I don't slide (except on clay, baby!)

Seriously, I couldn't get a good enough take on the soles from a short sampling of wall-hitting - would have to give them a spin for real.
OMG J... You "walked around in the shoe for 10-15 minutes" and posted a review? I'll try to hold the flames back! ;-)
 

Jmauer

Semi-Pro
OMG J... You "walked around in the shoe for 10-15 minutes" and posted a review? I'll try to hold the flames back! ;-)
I know that was ghastly of me wasn’t it. It was light hitting, though. I know, I know. You are right. You are so right. It was a moment of weakness, my man. Couldn’t help myself.

@TW Staff does a legit review over a couple months.

And here comes J with his “I hit for ten minutes let me tell you all about this product.”


Consider it a teaser, perhaps? :)
 
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