Nishikori in Federer Quarter

raph6

Semi-Pro
Since Wimbledon 2018, the player who has beaten Kei Nishikori in a Grand Slam has always won the title. Djokovic defeated him at Wimbledon 2018 QF, US Open 2018 SF, Australian Open 2019 QF and Nadal beated him at RG 2019 QF.

Federer fans, you know what that means :sneaky:
 

I Am Finnish

Bionic Poster
Since Wimbledon 2018, the player who has beaten Kei Nishikori in a Grand Slam has always won the title. Djokovic defeated him at Wimbledon 2018 QF, US Open 2018 SF, Australian Open 2019 QF and Nadal beated him at RG 2019 QF.

Federer fans, you know what that means :sneaky:
He did? cant remember:unsure:
 
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Deleted member 77403

Guest
Oh i remember now :D

How can you forget, the salt from what happened as a result of that match can still be tasted today.... ;)

Federer gets bumped to court one and loses, Anderson then plays Isner in the semis which never ends, Djokovic and Nadal then have to play under a roof because it was so late, and continue to play under it the next day, Djokovic goes onto win the title and then goes on a three slam winning streak and becomes world number one and gets the year end number one ranking.... :love::D
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
How can you forget, the salt from what happened as a result of that match can still be tasted today.... ;)

Federer gets bumped to court one and loses, Anderson then plays Isner in the semis which never ends, Djokovic and Nadal then have to play under a roof because it was so late, and continue to play under it the next day, Djokovic goes onto win the title and then goes on a three slam winning streak and becomes world number one and gets the year end number one ranking.... :love::D
It's so funny, because now Ultron is back at #1, which is something I never wanted. But a year ago I thought it was great when he made a fool out of all the haters who crapped all over him as finished!

Then a whole bunch of people said Nadal was done because he could not even win on clay. Then Rome happened, and RG happened. Fed looked pretty bad at the beginning of the year, and the common wisdom was that Grampa was done. Then HE went on a streak.

I guess people never learn with these guys...
 
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Deleted member 77403

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It's so funny, because now Ultron is back at #1, which is something I never wanted. But a year ago I thought it was great when he made a fool out of all the haters who crapped all over him as finished!

Then a whole bunch of people said Nadal was done because he could not even win on clay. Then Rome happened, and RG happened. Fed looked pretty bad at the beginning of the year, and the common wisdom was that Grampa was done. Then HE went on a streak.

I guess people never learn with these guys...

LOL - Lesson to be learned, never count the big three out! :p
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
LOL - Lesson to be learned, never count the big three out! :p
Over time I've realized that the biggest problem for me is boredom. This is anything in life. I like diversity. What excites me most is seeing young, gifted players break through, and of course we have none of that now, in general. I've been hoping FAA would break through all year. "Titty" (Tsitsi) I'm not hot on. I like even Zod a lot better (though not his game.) I was really hopeful a few years back for Coric, hoped Thiem would push through at least on clay. Very excited about Shapo, who so far still looks so interesting but also has not pushed through.

By the time Fed finally won big I was sort of turned off, a bit of a lull in my interest. I was really excited about very young Sampras, not so much about Agassi because I thought he was all hype. Thought young Pete was the best thing I'd seen in a long time, loved young Edberg, followed Becker from dark horse to his first Wimbledon.

My favorite version of Djokovic was when he was quite young. I'm convinced he would have been racking up slams way earlier without glutin. And few appreciate the link between diet and success. But you will perfectly.

Love young Nadal, the exciting teen phenom with the pirate pants. I was a crazy fan about both Evert and Borg. Laver was always an old man for me when he ate up the world in 69.

So that's the big thing right now. I don't know when I started to really like Fed, but probably when it looked like he could not longer win, around 2013.

But now? BRING ON SOMEONE YOUNG PLEASE!!!!
 

ScottleeSV

Hall of Fame
The quarters is always a good round to play Nishikori. He's usually taped up with the trainer on standby by that point.

And even if he was in super tip top shape, Federer on grass is not a good match for him.
 

NEW_BORN

Hall of Fame
Also consider this, every time that Federer had lost in the SF of the French (2005, 2012), he has gone on to win Wimbledon.
And every time that Federer has won Miami (2005, 2006, 2017), he has gone on to win Wimbledon.
The stars are aligning.
 

junior74

Talk Tennis Guru
How can you forget, the salt from what happened as a result of that match can still be tasted today.... ;)

Federer gets bumped to court one and loses, Anderson then plays Isner in the semis which never ends, Djokovic and Nadal then have to play under a roof because it was so late, and continue to play under it the next day, Djokovic goes onto win the title and then goes on a three slam winning streak and becomes world number one and gets the year end number one ranking.... :love::D

One more thing on Nadal's list of complaints: Nishikori!
 

Beacon Hill

Hall of Fame
Since Wimbledon 2018, the player who has beaten Kei Nishikori in a Grand Slam has always won the title. Djokovic defeated him at Wimbledon 2018 QF, US Open 2018 SF, Australian Open 2019 QF and Nadal beated him at RG 2019 QF.

Federer fans, you know what that means :sneaky:
Since 2018? How did you even find records going back that far?
 

raph6

Semi-Pro
Since 2018? How did you even find records going back that far?

It’s the streak that counts here. And the streak is still on. :sneaky:

Since AO 2016, 14 Grand Slams were played and Nishikori was beaten by the winner 7 times which is 50% of the time (even more since he did not play US Open 2017 and it is counted). What a bad luck for him or what a good luck he is.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
I love Jon Wetheim's pithy analysis of Kei in his Wimbledon Seeds Report:

"Kei is a steady, admirable player…who just lacks the weaponry—and physical durability—to compete for the biggest trophies."

That says it all. I'm happy he's in Fed's quarter, though I doubt Kei will make it far enough to meet Roger.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
My favorite version of Djokovic was when he was quite young. I'm convinced he would have been racking up slams way earlier without glutin.

I'm quite surprised someone as grounded and reasonable as you actually believed that nonsense about glutin.
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
I'm quite surprised someone as grounded and reasonable as you actually believed that nonsense about glutin.
I had horrible headaches from the age of 10 to age 64. I went to every doctor in the world, tried everything. Acupuncture, yoga, different diets, meditation, etc. Nothing worked. Always a headache once a week. At the end of 2012 I was getting a spike in BP and looked for answers. So I cut all caffeine as an experiment. BP went down, but I had a steady headache for around 11 days. I don't like to give up when I make a plan, so I stuck it out. The headache lifted and I never had another serious headache. That was about 6.5 years ago.

People who don't know me think I'm talking nonsense. You probably do too. But I have a close friend who had all sorts of problems and they went away when he found out he is sensitive to gluten.

Nonsense is a trigger for me. My very arrogant and haughty English relatives (father's side) used that word whenever they wanted to say anything was impossible. Viruses cause colds? Nonsense. Man on the moon? Nonsense.

You sound just like my aunt who used to hack me off big time. Trigger.

Wanna fight? :)
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
I had horrible headaches from the age of 10 to age 64...

None of this has anything to do with Novak suddenly coming up with the Gluten story and then becoming an absolute superman on court. I'm not denying some people have gluten allergies (obviously), I am talking about a world class athlete who went from retiring in countless matches and then becoming a stamina giant. Let's just agree to disagree on this one. :);)
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
None of this has anything to do with Novak suddenly coming up with the Gluten story and then becoming an absolute superman on court. I'm not denying some people have gluten allergies (obviously), I am talking about a world class athlete who went from retiring in countless matches and then becoming a stamina giant. Let's just agree to disagree on this one. :);)
Fair enough. But I can tell you that when just eliminating something changes your life, most people will assume you are just making it up, that it's all in your head.

Regardless, something totally changed between 2010 and 2011. If you are suggesting "chemical enhancement", I'll only say that I am very suspicious of the whole tour. @Hitman might have something to add here. I believe once upon a time, long, long ago, body builders just pumped iron. I would say that if this is true it would have nothing to do with integrity or purity but rather that the drugs were not very effective yet. The first drug of this type I heard about was Dianabol, which was already popular in the late 60s. I see it was originally developed in '55. I remember debates about "lifting clean", and as I understand it no one at the top got there without drugs of this sort.

I think there is some kind of separate group that is "natural" - no drugs - but I also assume this group is smaller, less muscular and so on.

If I'm even close to right, once you let the doping genie out of the bottle you can't put it back. There is no way I believe that people who are not doping can compete with people who are, so the question to me is whether or not the top guys are or are not doping. If some are, I think they all are. Anything else seems naive to me.

So if you are going in that direction, implying that guys who can run around all day without ever looking tired are taking something, I'm sort of there.
 
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Deleted member 77403

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Fair enough. But I can tell you that when just eliminating something changes your life, most people will assume you are just making it up, that it's all in your head.

Regardless, something totally changed between 2010 and 2011. If you are suggesting "chemical enhancement", I'll only say that I am very suspicious of the whole tour. @Hitman might have something to add here. I believe once upon a time, long, long ago, body builders just pumped iron. I would say that if this is true it would have nothing to do with integrity or purity but rather that the drugs were not very effective yet. The first drug of this type I heard about was Dianabol, which was already popular in the late 60s. I see it was originally developed in '55. I remember debates about "lifting clean", and as I understand it no one at the top got there without drugs of this sort.

I think there is some kind of separate group that is "natural" - no drugs - but I also assume this group is smaller, less muscular and so on.

If I'm even close to right, once you let the doping genie out of the bottle you can't put it back. There is no way I believe that people who are not doping can compete with people who are, so the question to me is whether or not the top guys are or are not doping. If some are, I think they all are. Anything else seems naive to me.

So if you are going in that direction, implying that guys who can run around all day without ever looking tired are taking something, I'm sort of there.


Take a look at this video below. This is Flex Wheeler who is an absolute legend in bodybuilding and known by all the top athletes from the NFL, NHL, ATP, Athletics, Boxing, among many other sporting organizations. Anybody who is anybody from that period of the 90s and early 00s knew of him. Look at what he says from about 2:50 about when he was at Wimbledon and hanging out with the top guys.

 
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