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tennisnewbie09

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Been reading that a lot of people seem to like the PT630, PT280, and the Head Prestige Classic/Classic Mid/600. Is the Head Classic Mid Plus not a good racket? I mean, isn't it just a bigger version of the Prestige Classic Mid? Or is there something special about the other Mid+ rackets (PT630, PT280) that makes them that much more special? Thanks for any information.
 
tennisnewbie09 said:
Been reading that a lot of people seem to like the PT630, PT280, and the Head Prestige Classic/Classic Mid/600. Is the Head Classic Mid Plus not a good racket? I mean, isn't it just a bigger version of the Prestige Classic Mid? Or is there something special about the other Mid+ rackets (PT630, PT280) that makes them that much more special? Thanks for any information.
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I have one and it's a good racquet - but it swings quite heavy and has a lot of power; I find it can be difficult to control. Mine has the original suspension grip.

I find the Satellite Tour to be a much better (nearly perfect) racquet. It is basically a midplus Twin Tube Prestige. Flexy with a large sweetspot but tons of control and feel.
 
I had one, thought it was a bit heavy compared to other similar racquets of that era. Also, the frame was known to warp. It was of it's own design and not similar to the Pro Tour/Radical molds. The Prestige line didn't move to the Pro Tour/Radical MP molds until the Ti line and a new MP mold and OS mold was made for the Radical. In that era, the Satellite Tour and Supreme Competition used a 660cm2 mold similar to the Pro Tours and Radicals of the mid to late '90s. Like Goldenyama says, those were better 660cm2 racquets compared to the Prestige Classic MP...well at least in my opinion as well.
 
ace0001a said:
I had one, thought it was a bit heavy compared to other similar racquets of that era. Also, the frame was known to warp. It was of it's own design and not similar to the Pro Tour/Radical molds. The Prestige line didn't move to the Pro Tour/Radical MP molds until the Ti line and a new MP mold and OS mold was made for the Radical. In that era, the Satellite Tour and Supreme Competition used a 660cm2 mold similar to the Pro Tours and Radicals of the mid to late '90s. Like Goldenyama says, those were better 660cm2 racquets compared to the Prestige Classic MP...well at least in my opinion as well.
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There was not a 630cm2 Prestige until the i.Prestige MP. The Ti.Classic was not a "Prestige". It was a low end racquet that was made in China when at the time the Premium racquets were made in Austria. The Ti.Classic also came out when the Intelligence line of the Prestige was released. While the U.S. Market got the Ti.Classic the E.U. Market got the Ti.Pro Tour......
 
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The Head Classic Mid Plus is an outstanding racket and more similar to the racket that most pros are playing today. Its just that the pc600 is the holy grail racket for many players from the last decade and is still a very common picasso today. I think that if you are a modern player then you will probably prefer the mid+ and if you are an old school player then you would not be asking this question ;)
 
tennisnewbie09 said:
Been reading that a lot of people seem to like the PT630, PT280, and the Head Prestige Classic/Classic Mid/600. Is the Head Classic Mid Plus not a good racket? I mean, isn't it just a bigger version of the Prestige Classic Mid? Or is there something special about the other Mid+ rackets (PT630, PT280) that makes them that much more special? Thanks for any information.
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You might try and find from auctin site the following Head with 19mm beam and 660cm head size: Head TXM, Head Graphite Master (black, and later version turqoise color).

The TXM was made sametime with the TXP and brown PP. The Graphite Master was made same time with Graphite Pro.

The Classic midplus and Prestige Trisys 300 midplus is too stiff, too powerful, lacking feel to be considered in the Prestige family
 
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vsbabolat said:
There was not a 630cm2 Prestige until the i.Prestige MP. The Ti.Classic was not a "Prestige". It was a low end racquet that was made in China when at the time the Premium racquets were made in Austria. The Ti.Classic also came out when the Intelligence line of the Prestige was released. While the U.S. Market got the Ti.Classic the E.U. Market got the Ti.Pro Tour......
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I've never owned a Ti.Classic, but from all the pictures I've seen of it, looks like the same mold (or variant) as the a Pro Tour 280MP/630. So here in the US, they never actually sold a Prestige for the Ti line? Or was the Ti.Classic suppose to be it? How different was the Ti.Classic to the Ti.Pro Tour? Anyway going back to the 660cm2 racquets, I do wish Head continued making a classic from in this head size.
 
ace0001a said:
I've never owned a Ti.Classic, but from all the pictures I've seen of it, looks like the same mold (or variant) as the a Pro Tour 280MP/630. So here in the US, they never actually sold a Prestige for the Ti line? Or was the Ti.Classic suppose to be it? How different was the Ti.Classic to the Ti.Pro Tour? Anyway going back to the 660cm2 racquets, I do wish Head continued making a classic from in this head size.
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Yes, it used the Mold of the Pro Tour 630/280. There was no Prestige for the Ti Line.
 
vsbabolat said:
Yes, it used the Mold of the Pro Tour 630/280. There was no Prestige for the Ti Line.
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Ah, that's what I thought from all the pictures I've seen of the Ti.Classic all this time. I still think the Ti. Classic could be considered (even loosely) "Prestige" of the Ti line or the Ti. Pro Tour in Europe for that matter as well. I guess that was sort of the transition period while Head was deciding to use the Pro Tour MP 630 mold (or variant of it) for the Prestige. Not trying pass false information here, but just the way I'm perceiving it.
 
ace0001a said:
Ah, that's what I thought from all the pictures I've seen of the Ti.Classic all this time. I still think the Ti. Classic could be considered (even loosely) "Prestige" of the Ti line or the Ti. Pro Tour in Europe for that matter as well. I guess that was sort of the transition period while Head was deciding to use the Pro Tour MP 630 mold (or variant of it) for the Prestige. Not trying pass false information here, but just the way I'm perceiving it.
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The Ti.Classic/Ti.Pro Tour did not come out until shortly after the i.Prestige line was introduced. There was no transition period. The Ti.Classic/Ti.Pro Tour was a lower-end Made in China racquet when the premium racquets were still made in Austria.

The Ti.Classic is not a Prestige.
 
vsbabolat said:
The Ti.Classic/Ti.Pro Tour did not come out until shortly after the i.Prestige line was introduced. There was no transition period. The Ti.Classic/Ti.Pro Tour was a lower-end Made in China racquet when the premium racquets were still made in Austria.

The Ti.Classic is not a Prestige.
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Alright, thanks for the clarification vsb. I was always under the impression from things I read that the Ti.Classic was the "Prestige" of the Ti line. Since it was a lower end model, was it still sold at the same stores that sold the higher end models? Or was it sold at chain stores like the reissued SMU China made Radical Tour OS and Pro Tour MP racquets? Also that is was a low end model, was it retail priced lower as well?
 
vsbabolat said:
There was not a 630cm2 Prestige until the i.Prestige MP. The Ti.Classic was not a "Prestige". It was a low end racquet that was made in China when at the time the Premium racquets were made in Austria. The Ti.Classic also came out when the Intelligence line of the Prestige was released. While the U.S. Market got the Ti.Classic the E.U. Market got the Ti.Pro Tour......
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My racquet says Prestige Tour on the side, not Prestige Tour Classic like one I have seen posted on here in the past. Is there any difference? Mine is a Mid plus racquet also so do you know if it was made in China or in Austria?
 
billsgwn said:
My racquet says Prestige Tour on the side, not Prestige Tour Classic like one I have seen posted on here in the past. Is there any difference? Mine is a Mid plus racquet also so do you know if it was made in China or in Austria?
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As far as I know, if it has the suspension grip it was made in Europe (Frame molded in Austria and finished in Czech Republic). If it is the 'Classic' remake I'm not sure.

I have a suspension grip Prestige Tour 660 9/10 condition 4 3/8 grip if anyone is interested email me at cameronbayne@gmail.com
 
billsgwn said:
My racquet says Prestige Tour on the side, not Prestige Tour Classic like one I have seen posted on here in the past. Is there any difference? Mine is a Mid plus racquet also so do you know if it was made in China or in Austria?
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The Prestige Tour = Suspension Grip.

The Classic Midplus = traditional Pallet.

The Classic Midplus was made in Austria.
 
If I had to choose a stick to play with forever, it would be between the TXM ca 1988 and the DNX9. I REALLY enjoy hitting little bitty rackets like the Red Head and YY8500; but, I would go M+ if I had to make a 'forever' choice. Pro Tour 280(M+) would be on the list, also.
 
I'd suggest that the Prestige Tour / Trisys 300 Midplus of 1993 was the first midplus in the Prestige lineage. And yes, it featured the Suspension Grip system.
 
Don't forget the 1988 Prestige Master.........
goldenyama said:
I currently use a Satellite Tour and I also have a Prestige Tour 660. I am currently looking at buying or trading for a Prestige Master which I believe is the predecessor of the aforementioned frames with a thinner 19mm beam.

Has anybody used one of these back in the day? Does anybody still use one? What do they feel and play like? Thanks in advance!





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tandayu said:
Thank you

Txm followed by Prestige Master followed by black Graphite Master followed byturqoise Graphite Master?
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The Black Graphite Master and grey Comp Master came out first before the The TXM (TX Master). The TXM was sold along side the Turquoise Graphite Master and white Comp Master. The the TXM was named changed to the Prestige Master and was still sold along side the Turquoise Graphite Master and White Comp Master. There was Pro Series (89.5sq.in) and The Master Series (102.5sq.in.) that was sold side by side.
 
vsbabolat said:
The Black Graphite Master and grey Comp Master came out first before the The TXM (TX Master). The TXM was sold along side the Turquoise Graphite Master and white Comp Master. The the TXM was named changed to the Prestige Master and was still sold along side the Turquoise Graphite Master and White Comp Master. There was Pro Series (89.5sq.in) and The Master Series (102.5sq.in.) that was sold side by side.
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vsbabolat,
I have noticed you know the Head racquets bigtime so wanted to ask you the difference in these 2 I have. One says Prestige Tour on the side and says Mid plus at the top. The other says Prestige Tour 660 on the side and has 660 at the top? They feel the same and look the same besides that....also, are they both about the same in value if I wanted to sell them in future ?
 
billsgwn said:
vsbabolat,
I have noticed you know the Head racquets bigtime so wanted to ask you the difference in these 2 I have. One says Prestige Tour on the side and says Mid plus at the top. The other says Prestige Tour 660 on the side and has 660 at the top? They feel the same and look the same besides that....also, are they both about the same in value if I wanted to sell them in future ?
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You probably know this but wanted to add that the Prestige Tour 660 says Made in Austria where the Prestige Tour says Designed in Austria.
 
billsgwn said:
vsbabolat,
I have noticed you know the Head racquets bigtime so wanted to ask you the difference in these 2 I have. One says Prestige Tour on the side and says Mid plus at the top. The other says Prestige Tour 660 on the side and has 660 at the top? They feel the same and look the same besides that....also, are they both about the same in value if I wanted to sell them in future ?
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They are the same. Both were Made in Austria. The one with 660 on it was for the E.U. market while the one with Midplus was for the U.S. market.
 
Sweetspot on the Prestige mp is the hottest, free of vibration of any racquet I have ever used. Head is pretty flexible and the stringbed seems to deaden fast, like within 10 hrs. Comfy racquet. Doesn't age well. Owned the Ti.Classic, no Prestige.
 
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Ronaldo said:
Sweetspot on the Prestige mp is the hottest, free of vibration of any racquet I have ever used. Head is pretty flexible and the stringbed seems to deaden fast, like within 10 hrs. Comfy racquet. Doesn't age well. Owned the Ti.Classic, no Prestige.
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Doesn't age well? How's that exactly? Not nice used?
 
Ronaldo said:
The racquet loses the crisp response of a new racquet quickly. Still own a pr. Only racquet that had a sweeter sweetspot within the sweetspot. Nothing compares to it.
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Would a couple of these that haven't been strung too many times be still worth buying this much later?
 
I had one, and I don't like it. Materials and specs are similar to PT630/radicals, but it is very different in play.
 
PhrygianDominant said:
Would a couple of these that haven't been strung too many times be still worth buying this much later?
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Worth it if you use them. Tough to re-sell. May be a bit hefty if you are not used to a 12+ oz racquet. Had to string at 62# to tame the power with a 102" head. Believe TW had new midplus racquets a few yrs ago.
 
Ronaldo said:
Worth it if you use them. Tough to re-sell. May be a bit hefty if you are not used to a 12+ oz racquet. Had to string at 62# to tame the power with a 102" head. Believe TW had new midplus racquets a few yrs ago.
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I do use a racquet around 13 oz.....but I am not sold on these. I guess I will refrain. This doesn't seem like a once in a lifetime opportunity, and I have plenty of old racquets that are tough to resell......
 
Andre used this racquet at the 2003 US Open. It was painted like an iRadical or LM Radical, I can’t remember.

To me, it has characteristics similar to the POG OS. Same power level if not more, absolutely hammers the ball. Sweet spot feels sweeter than the POG. It swings pretty heavy, you have to keep take back compact and let the racquet do the work. I think if you have old school, clean mechanics, you would enjoy this stick. Not much spin potential, you have to make an effort to generate it yourself.
 
langley said:
I know head used to measure on the outside of the frame (or something like this), just wondering if this is a true 102, because the 99’s in current production also have an 18x19 pattern
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No, that’s a myth. Head never measured the outside. If they went by the outside on this racquet, it’ll be more than 110 sq in.
 
PistolPete23 said:
Andre used this racquet at the 2003 US Open. It was painted like an iRadical or LM Radical, I can’t remember.

To me, it has characteristics similar to the POG OS. Same power level if not more, absolutely hammers the ball. Sweet spot feels sweeter than the POG. It swings pretty heavy, you have to keep take back compact and let the racquet do the work. I think if you have old school, clean mechanics, you would enjoy this stick. Not much spin potential, you have to make an effort to generate it yourself.
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Hottest sweetspot ever IMHO. Effortless power, no twisting

Btw, never sold my Classics or Prestige Tours
 
PistolPete23 said:
Don’t know how that rumor got spread. Maybe by Tennisnerd. Guy has to make a video to correct the misinformation.
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that’s why i put (or something like that) because i’ve heard it’s not actually true. so you think it’s for sure bigger than 102?
 
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