No Links to AV Piracy sites

TW Staff

TW Staff

Administrator
We have been contacted by the All England Lawn & Tennis Club, demanding we remove any and all links to any live streaming of Wimbledon, other than through the official site - http://www.wimbledon.org/wimbledonlive/.

Any threads or posts containing links to sites other than this one, offering live streaming of Wimbledon, will be deleted. Thanks for your understanding.

Don/Tennis Warehouse
 
stoffer

stoffer

Rookie
Are those really piracy sites though? Isnt it just watching TV on the net? Its just a question.

Regardless, if these are the rules, then these are the rules and I'll abide by them.
 
Shabazza

Shabazza

Legend
stoffer said:
Are those really piracy sites though? Isnt it just watching TV on the net? Its just a question.

Regardless, if these are the rules, then these are the rules and I'll abide by them.
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Ditto!
 
ubel

ubel

Professional
stoffer said:
Are those really piracy sites though? Isnt it just watching TV on the net? Its just a question.

Regardless, if these are the rules, then these are the rules and I'll abide by them.
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yea it is basically watching tv on the net, until one person wants money. for some reason, when money is in the equation everything goes to crap :twisted:
 
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GrassCourtFan

Legend
ubel said:
yea it is basically watching tv on the net, until one person wants money. for some reason, when money is in the equation everything goes to crap :twisted:
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Still doesn't answer the question of whether it's actually illegal in any form. Ah well, TW is a merchant, they need to keep good relations with those official type of people ;)
 
armand

armand

Banned
Wimbledon has a very good reason for stopping this stuff: They don't want so many people seeing how boring Wimbledon is this year, how they've turned it into just another baseline bashfest.

I fell asleep during the 5th set of the Safin/Gonzo match! Even that Nadal match was just a little bit above meh for me.
 
ubel

ubel

Professional
Just as a note for anyone wanting coverage though: Wimbledon has dropped the prices since the first week is over, full coverage for the rest of the week is now $13. For all the matches ot be played live and all the previous matches from last week, if that's not a deal I don't know what is.

As for Wimbledon being boring.. I personally disagree. This has been rather exciting for me, just watched the Hewitt/Ferrer match and wow, great stuff. Maybe you just need to open your eyes and accept some change ;P
 
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skuludo

Professional
Probly is illegal as The All England Club holds all the rights to the reproduction and distribution of the matches. The only people who are able to distribute to broadcast it are the people who signed a contract with The All England Club. Also the contract will state what they are allowed to do.
 
BluDiamond

BluDiamond

Semi-Pro
can you post links to sites now wimbledon is over??? eg does anyone know where i can get the GB ISrael Davis cup match??
 
scineram

scineram

Professional
adely said:
Wimbledon has a very good reason for stopping this stuff: They don't want so many people seeing how boring Wimbledon is this year, how they've turned it into just another baseline bashfest.

I fell asleep during the 5th set of the Safin/Gonzo match! Even that Nadal match was just a little bit above meh for me.
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Now that says it all.:p
 
edmondsm

edmondsm

Legend
They'll want us watching when a Brit wins Wimbledon, which is never. Andy Murray doesn't count, he's Scottish. It's like Americans rooting for a Puerta Rican.
 
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ilostmymarbles

Rookie
Hang on there, andy murray does count as a brit because he's from scotland as scotland is part of the united kingdom of great britain.
If you had said, he doesn't count cause he's not ENGLISH, you'd be on the right track, but he is british. There is no comparison between scotland and england and american and a south american country as the situation is totally different.
 
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Benhur

Hall of Fame
TW Staff said:
We have been contacted by the All England Lawn & Tennis Club, demanding we remove any and all links to any live streaming of Wimbledon, other than through the official site - http://www.wimbledon.org/wimbledonlive/.

Any threads or posts containing links to sites other than this one, offering live streaming of Wimbledon, will be deleted. Thanks for your understanding.

Don/Tennis Warehouse
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Well, YouTube is still awash with wimbledon clips. Iif anything, they are the ones who should be told to remove it, not those who just post the url to youtube. It's as if someone sets up shop selling merchandise without proper permit, and they are left alone. But a local guy giving directions to the shop, or pointing to it on a map, gets threatened and is told to keep his mouth shut or else.

Whatever it might be that's illegal about showing Wimbledon footage, it's not the URL that's illegal. The url is just a string of characters. If they want something done, they should deal with YouTube and have them remove it. There is nothing illegal about posting urls, for Christ's sake!
 
skip1969

skip1969

G.O.A.T.
this thread is hilarious. and i think deuce meant rooting for a Puerto Rican. which, by the way, is an island in the caribbean, not a south american country. hilarious!
 
VikingSamurai

VikingSamurai

Banned
Well, what has Tennis Warehouse got to do with Wimbledon anyway?.. Shouldn't TW decide what is allowed on its own site?..

If Wimbledon are paying TW to do this, I could understand. But in all honesty. What has TW got to gain by agreeing to their request?

If they don't owe the All England Club anything. Then growing some balls may be in order me thinks?
 
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TheHuntor

New User
Um yeah well...

The All England Lawn Club can just go suck a u know what. If they have enough money and eliteness to deny former Wimbledon champions membership because of religion, then in no circumstance do I have sympathy for their financial situation, especially regarding something that should be free anyway. So in other words, the can go F*** themselves.
 
Trainer

Trainer

Rookie
Fortunately, it is extremely easy to find these live feeds. Trying to censor the internet is a fools errand.
 
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NAB

Guest
Useless, since one can find any tennis match as Torrents. Try any one of Torrents search engine and you will find whatever you want and despite that its legal because they are just Torrents search engine :)
 
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inquisitive

New User
I think they just don't want the matches shown live. As far as downloading the matches thru torrents, i don't think anyone cares.
 
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GrassCourtFan

Legend
NAB said:
Useless, since one can find any tennis match as Torrents. Try any one of Torrents search engine and you will find whatever you want and despite that its legal because they are just Torrents search engine :)
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No, it's still not legal.

It is legal for the torrents engine to exist, since they are not distributing the material. It's still illegal for whoever is uploading or downloading the material. That's how I understand it.

Now, nobody really cares about torrents of tennis matches, but that doesn't make it legal, I don't think...
 
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TNT16

Semi-Pro
Benhur said:
Well, YouTube is still awash with wimbledon clips. Iif anything, they are the ones who should be told to remove it, not those who just post the url to youtube. It's as if someone sets up shop selling merchandise without proper permit, and they are left alone. But a local guy giving directions to the shop, or pointing to it on a map, gets threatened and is told to keep his mouth shut or else.

Whatever it might be that's illegal about showing Wimbledon footage, it's not the URL that's illegal. The url is just a string of characters. If they want something done, they should deal with YouTube and have them remove it. There is nothing illegal about posting urls, for Christ's sake!
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Just use YouTube; cannot expect TW to risk infringement action. Also tons of highlights etc. on Stage6 . . . .
 
Fay

Fay

Professional
This is very encouraging .... perhaps if those in the know with the power to make changes are watching these threads, our comments will have some influence :)

Maybe Mary Carillo is on the way out, LOL
 
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GeoffB

Rookie
well, at least they could actually *show* the matches

I don't blame tennis warehouse for wanting to avoid copyright lawsuits.

But this is such crap. NBC and ESPN don't show many of the matches, even high profile semifinals. The Wimbledon website doesn't work with Macintosh. They aren't giving me many options. Basically, they're saying that they won't show it on a tv channel I can access, and they won't netcast it on a system that works with my computer. Oh, but respect our copyrights and "don't be a pirate", because that would be, you know, wrong.

They really are jackasses.
 
Fay

Fay

Professional
GeoffB said:
I don't blame tennis warehouse for wanting to avoid copyright lawsuits.

But this is such crap. NBC and ESPN don't show many of the matches, even high profile semifinals. The Wimbledon website doesn't work with Macintosh. They aren't giving me many options. Basically, they're saying that they won't show it on a tv channel I can access, and they won't netcast it on a system that works with my computer. Oh, but respect our copyrights and "don't be a pirate", because that would be, you know, wrong.

They really are jackasses.
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Ya, I had a message on the PC folder of my Macintosh and it said to upgrade to I.E. whatever ... I did that and then my Media Player would NOT work at all, did before ... then they demanded that I check the version of X P Professional that I have (which I bought WITH a license off e*B*y for $100) and they said that was invalid.

Soooooo I had to pay $150 US to upgrade my X P Professional in order to use anything on my Windoze emulator .... THEN another $25 for Wimby Live ... so it cost me $175 just to be able to watch on my computer what the networks are too ignorant to provide good coverage of ...

but things could be a lot worse, I might not have had the $175 like many folks and not gotten to see most of Wimby at all.

This is suuuuuuch a racquet~ and I am not talking about the one on the tennis courts.
 
kimbahpnam

kimbahpnam

Hall of Fame
This is the first time I've seen this thread...perhaps it's because I never venture into forums through the sub-categories and simply use "New Posts" all the time.

Anyway, I've just got to say the policy hasn't been very strict.
 
Franz

Franz

New User
so... while wimbledon is NOT happening, what sort of site would have such a service?

if you want AV piracy sites of the other kind, i've got a couple
 
Love Game

Love Game

Talk Tennis Guru
5 games, 3 breaks of serve

delpo serving 3-2


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pfffffft ... I wondered where this post ended up
sorry about that ... wrong thread ...


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PrinceMoron

PrinceMoron

Legend
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Uk/uk.legal/2005-11/msg03550.html

I live in a tower block overlooking Wimbledon, and I can watch the tennis out of my window. Sky pay for rights, and charge viewers. Am I stealing their IP if I don't pay for a licence?

No

I live in a tower block 10 miles from Wimbledon, but I have a telescope. Sky pay for rights, and charge viewers. Am I stealing their IP if I don't pay for a licence?

No

I live in a tower block 1000 miles from Wimbledon, but I have access to a NASA satellite downlink. Sky pay for rights, and charge viewers. Am I stealing their IP if I don't pay for a licence?

Yes

I live in a tower block 10,000 miles from Wimbledon, but my friend records it from licenced Sky and posts me the video-tapes. Sky pay for rights, and charge viewers. Am I stealing their IP if I don't pay for a licence?

No*, but your friend has violated his agreement with Sky and can expect a rap on the knuckles.

I live in a tower block 10,000 miles from Wimbledon, but my friend records it from licenced Sky and uploads it to the web, so I can download it. Sky pay for rights, and charge viewers. Am I stealing their IP if I don't pay for a licence?


No*, but your friend has violated his agreement with Sky and can expect some serious jail time.

I live in a tower block 10,000 miles from Wimbledon, but my friend records it from free-to-air TV and posts me the video-tapes. Am I stealing anyone's IP?

No*, But the copyright act only allows taping of FTA TV for timeshifting use
by the person who tapes it. The recording can only be kept until it is viewed.

I live in a tower block 10,000 miles from Wimbledon, but my friend records it from free-to-air TV and uploads it to the web, so I can download it.

Am I stealing anyone's IP?

For a minute there I thought someone actually had a flat overlooking the courts.

All sounds complicated, I will go for the hot air balloon option.
 
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danno123

Rookie
TW Staff said:
We have been contacted by the All England Lawn & Tennis Club, demanding we remove any and all links to any live streaming of Wimbledon, other than through the official site - http://www.wimbledon.org/wimbledonlive/.

Any threads or posts containing links to sites other than this one, offering live streaming of Wimbledon, will be deleted. Thanks for your understanding.

Don/Tennis Warehouse
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Hey, it's gotta be pretty cool that your site is well known enough that they contact you about this. Personally, I would have demanded that they do something silly just to mess with them (like mail me some grass clippings from center court).

Here's a link to live streaming: [I was thinking about putting a rickroll here but decided against it]:)
 
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