No tennis player will have the epilogue of the true GOAT of GOATS Diego Maradona

Amritia

Hall of Fame
Messi has had better players around him by far than Maradona had. That is exactly why every Argentinean will tell you Messi not fit to tie Maradona boot laces.
I follow football closely, so I don't need to ask people of other nationalities.
If you disagree, name me some world class central midfielders and defenders Argentina currently have?
 

Amritia

Hall of Fame
Most clueless comment i have ever read lol. Ronaldo has scored way better and memorable goals than Messi and played for inferior teams. He is miles ahead of Messi. Ronaldo can head, use both feet and has pace and power and skill. Messi has a great left foot.
Who do you think is better at dribbling, Messi or Ronaldo?
 

Tiki-Taka

Rookie
Not surprised that when entering the thread I would end up seeing the same lack of awareness from younger generations and people who probably don't even watch football about Diego's impact and status as the God of world's greatest, most popular sport. But then the disrespect towards Leo and what looks like intentional ignorance about his numerous world class qualities comes as a cherry on top. Some of you should at least have the decency to stick to fanboying in tennis.
 

Amritia

Hall of Fame
LOL, Messi doesn't have the most goals even in his time, CR7 has more goals.
Messi has more goals per game. Ronaldo has more goals because he's older. When they both retire, Messi will be comfortably ahead in goals tally. And assists tally. And key passes per game. And successful dribbles per game. Statistically it's not even close.
 

Beckerserve

Legend
I follow football closely, so I don't need to ask people of other nationalities.
If you disagree, name me some world class central midfielders and defenders Argentina currently have?
In Messi peak he had Mascerano zabaleta, otamendi di maria aguero tevez higuain all of whom were world class and played at the biggest clubs!!!
 

Beckerserve

Legend
Messi has more goals per game. Ronaldo has more goals because he's older. When they both retire, Messi will be comfortably ahead in goals tally. And assists tally. And key passes per game. And successful dribbles per game. Statistically it's not even close.
Agree it is not close. Ronaldo way better than Messi.
 

Amritia

Hall of Fame
Ronaldo at his peak. Could use both feet go both ways and was quicker. Could beat more men in one go.
You seriously think Ronaldo is better at dribbling than Messi...? I know many Ronaldo fans who acknowledge that Messi is a significantly superior dribbler.
 

Amritia

Hall of Fame
In Messi peak he had Mascerano zabaleta, otamendi di maria aguero tevez higuain all of whom were world class and played at the biggest clubs!!!
Zabaleta and Otamendi were error prone for Man City, and for Argentina too. Neither of them close to world class.
Mascherano was a very good CDM, but played makeshift CB for Argentina because of their lack of defenders.
Rest of players you named were attackers.
 

Beckerserve

Legend
You seriously think Ronaldo is better at dribbling than Messi...? I know many Ronaldo fans who acknowledge that Messi is a significantly superior dribbler.
Peak Ronaldo was a better dribbler. Messi may seem more elaborate but Ronaldo got past more men. Not nowadays as he had lost a step but we are talking peak v peak.
 

Beckerserve

Legend
Zabaleta and Otamendi were error prone for Man City, and for Argentina too. Neither of them close to world class.
Mascherano was a very good CDM, but played makeshift CB for Argentina because of their lack of defenders.
Rest of players you named were attackers.
You do not play for Man City for so many years if not world class bud.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
Outside of Argentina and Italy there wasn't so much fuss. Don't exaggerate. Also in soccer there are many legends like Messi, Pele, both Ronaldos, etc. Maradona wasn't above them. Also soccer is much more popular than tennis so it's unfair to compare, of course it would make a bigger impact, not to mention how soccer fans are known to be very passionate (sometimes in the wrong way). But I'm sure in Switzerland and Spain there would be a lot of reaction for Fedal.

But as popular as soccer players are, when Michael Jackson 2009 and Whitney Houston 2012 died, they were both the most googled words for those respective years (not only for people but for any words or themes searched on Google). I doubt Maradona would get close so it's hard to compare different sports or different entertainment fields.
Michael Jackson had 50 shows scheduled and was making his comeback when he died all of a sudden. Maradonna had been invisible to most of the world for decades.
 

Amritia

Hall of Fame
Peak Ronaldo was a better dribbler. Messi may seem more elaborate but Ronaldo got past more men. Not nowadays as he had lost a step but we are talking peak v peak.
Okay then, show me some examples of Ronaldo getting passed as many men as Messi does in these clips:



 

Beckerserve

Legend
Okay then, show me some examples of Ronaldo getting passed as many men as Messi does in these clips:



Other posters can do that . Ronaldo has dribbled past entire teams and then scored.
This is not a debate. Ronaldo does everything better bar diving
 
What was factually wrong? Messi has more goals per game than Ronaldo. So if they finish on same amount of games, Messi will have more goals.

If, if, if, if...

You're either from Barcelona, Argentinian or come from a country with low football culture. Ronaldo is just straight-up a better player.
 

Amritia

Hall of Fame
Other posters can do that . Ronaldo has dribbled past entire teams and then scored.
This is not a debate. Ronaldo does everything better bar diving
Go on then, show me the examples?

Your claim that Ronaldo is better at everything is not substantiated if you consider Messi has more goals per game, more assists per game, more key passes per game, and more successful dribbles per game.
 

Beckerserve

Legend
Go on then, show me the examples?

Your claim that Ronaldo is better at everything is not substantiated if you consider Messi has more goals per game, more assists per game, more key passes per game, and more successful dribbles per game.
Ronaldo has more goals per game more champions league goals more meaningful dribbles and more honours. The stats are there for all to see. Messi may be more popular as he does not attract the jealousy that Ronaldo does but Ronaldo is a far better player.
 

Bamoos

Semi-Pro
Lol fluking. Ronaldo owns Messi in every stat. More goals, more CLs more international honours.
Makes sense that Nadal fan would be a bean counter lmao.

Messi is technically better than Ronaldo at football. He’s the best ever.

Yes fluking. Did you see the Euros ? Outplayed by France but his team mate scores a wonder goal, meanwhile Higuain missed easy chances for Argentina at the copa.
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

Talk Tennis Guru
Clueless Ronaldo fanatics contaminating the society everywhere, even in a thread that was supposed to be about Maradona LMAO. Guy has better diving skills and abs, just be satisfied with that. :laughing:
 

Amritia

Hall of Fame
Ronaldo has more goals per game more champions league goals more meaningful dribbles and more honours. The stats are there for all to see. Messi may be more popular as he does not attract the jealousy that Ronaldo does but Ronaldo is a far better player.
Ronaldo has more goals per game? That's just factually inaccurate. Dribbles is also recorded and Messi is ahead.
Messi has won 34 trophies while Ronaldo is on 33, despite Messi being younger.

And I'll ask again, where are the examples of Ronaldo having dribbles past a whole team? I gave 3 videos of Messi dribbling and scoring, and you've posted 0 examples of Ronaldo doing anything similar.
 

Bamoos

Semi-Pro
Most clueless comment i have ever read lol. Ronaldo has scored way better and memorable goals than Messi and played for inferior teams. He is miles ahead of Messi. Ronaldo can head, use both feet and has pace and power and skill. Messi has a great left foot.
Utterly ridiculous comment. Don’t even know where to begin.
 

Beckerserve

Legend
What does he do better? He has less goals per match and much less assists.
Ronaldo scores and contributes more assists against the best opposition. Messi goes missing against the best sides but makes his stats better by performing against 2nd rate opposition
 

Amritia

Hall of Fame
Okay then, show me some examples of Ronaldo getting passed as many men as Messi does in these clips:



Challenge still on for Ronaldo fans to back up Beckerserve's claim that Ronaldo is a better dribbler than Messi ^
0 examples so far.
 

Beckerserve

Legend
Ronaldo has more goals per game? That's just factually inaccurate. Dribbles is also recorded and Messi is ahead.
Messi has won 34 trophies while Ronaldo is on 33, despite Messi being younger.

And I'll ask again, where are the examples of Ronaldo having dribbles past a whole team? I gave 3 videos of Messi dribbling and scoring, and you've posted 0 examples of Ronaldo doing anything similar.
Who has more champions leagues? Who has most goals agaimst top opposition per game. It is ronaldo. Messi looks great against poor opposition then is anonymous against the best. Ronaldo produces when it matters.
 

Bamoos

Semi-Pro
I follow football closely, so I don't need to ask people of other nationalities.
If you disagree, name me some world class central midfielders and defenders Argentina currently have?
Just a clueless set of comments, from someone who I suspect hasn’t seen Messi play much internationally or week in week out.

Argentina as a team has been horrifically unbalanced for years. Some great forwards but really lacking in midfield and defence.
 
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