Golf is not a real sport. Maybe I’ll try it at retirement.Sporting achievement, like life, is not a zero sum game. GOAT debates within one sport are senseless enough. And now, we are to carry that debate across different disciplines and then extend it into the entertainment industry as well?
Have at it, chaps. I'm going off to play.
PS: Not even close. For the GOAT of all GOATs, this is the guy you want:
I don't think you watch him play enough. He dribbles past loads of players himself time and time again. He also has more assists per game than anyone (so great passing stats as well as shooting)
a player had lost the ball, didn't have possession, those kinds of tackles weren't considered as a foul those times (different rules a bit) so the referee was right to let them continue, it was a goal, fair and square (football wasn't so soft)
He is an absolute magician.
It's just the stuff of dreams. I wonder if anyone who is hating on him will click on that video.
I don't think that you understood me. You said that he doesn't need his teammates to score goals, and you are wrong about that regardless of how many beautiful dribbles he makes.
He is individually successful for Argentina though. He has more goals, and more goals per game, for Argentina than Maradona.
He's obviously the best statistically in terms of goals and assists per game, and will finish up with the goalscoring record.
No. He clearly underperformed for Argentina where it mattered the most. There is no doubt about that. No excuses.
I watched that video, and one thing is fairly obvious: the more he dribbles, the less effective he is in front of the goal. In fact, almost the entirety of that video is him making ridiculous misses.
No, and the indication for that is that there was a comment about how well worked in the players from the club teams are compared to the national presentations. You need to first find out what was really said before correcting other people on how consistent their argument is.
LOL. The whole point of that video was a compilation of Messi dribbles that didn't end up in goals.
by the way, england has twice a player to be sent off: one time a english player elbowed maradona in the face in the first half. then a brutal foul in the end of a english player on valdano, and this player already had a yellow.
The video is not called "20 Messi dribbles where he missed". It is called "20 Messi dribbles that shocked the world", or is that some joke where the shocking part is that he missed?
Since I shut you down by pointing at where you didn't understand what is being said, you are running away from admitting that you yet again wasn't paying attention, or, worse, deliberately ignored it, just so that you continue to whine. You have respect only for consistently whining and no respect whatsoever for the facts that you address. At this point you are a caricature.
Football players miss all the time, otherwise we would be having Handball results, if they didn't. The point was that after extremely high level of dribbling he misses in front of the goal from a clear position. The discrepancy is obvious.
It’s like a free throw in basketball, many of the top players have missed many times and there’s no goalie to disrupt them. It happens.Football players miss all the time, otherwise we would be having Handball results, if they didn't. The point was that after extremely high level of dribbling he misses in front of the goal from a clear position. The discrepancy is obvious.
The video was a compilation of dribbles that didn't end up in a goal.
If he misses horrendously all the time, then why does he have the greatest goal per games stats in the history of football?Surely, Messi did want to score, no? The fact that he didn't means only that for all his dribbling skills, he misses horrendously all the time.
You didn't potentially think that by "all the time" it is meant "every single time", did you?
Bolded: Fail. I never said or implied that. It appears that you are not following what is being said.
I didn't "bombastically overstate my case". It requires a minimal level of understanding to know that.
I think that most people manage it without having to rely on hand signals. I don't know who are "you" that need them.
Not really, it’s because the opening poster used Maradona to diss all tennis players as not legendary enough. If this person had just said RIP Maradona without provoking everyone by saying that tennis players will always be inferior we wouldn’t have gotten past the first page.
That's a good list. Personally, I'd swap The Kaiser with Cryuff, and tbh can't really decide between Pele and Maradona for No1. Some are arguing that Messi is the greatest. Sure he's great (one of the greatest actually), but Maradona never had the luxury of being surrounded by a formidable team: Argentina 1986/90 and Napoli 1986-90. He basically carried the team single-handedly. Messi could never do that, infact in 2010 WC (or 2014 can't remember which exactly) he was surrounded by excellent players...much better team than the 1986 and 90 sides, yet couldn't deliver. Just never had 'that presence' ...the captaining skills Diego had. I remember in the WC 1990 R16, Argentina were being entirely dominated by Brazil, and it took a Maradona genius to assist Canniggia for the lone goal. People forget about these kind of assists when comparing greats and just look at other 'hard'stats, like goals.
Maybe everyone else was talking about his football--I'm just upset that I have to go find a new dealer.
van basten is an underachiever, yea...dasayev still can't believe perhaps
