non-poly, non−gut mains/smooth poly crosses review thread

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If poly is too harsh, fb nylon too mushy, and gut/poly too expensive, then welcome! I hope this forum can be a useful resource for those interested in the topic where people can share reviews/experiences and ask questions.

Politely requested ground rules (subject to revision):

Try to keep posts relevant to the topic. In other words, things like "I have never used a nylon mains/smooth poly combo, but I love a full bed of (insert your favorite poly, or any other string for that matter)" or "Unless you are as good as I claim to be, it is stupid to think you could benefit in the least from having poly in your stringbed, so please use a full bed of the crappiest syn gut you can find and feel inadequate" would be better said elsewhere.

Combos I have tried thus far*:
isospeed control classic / isospeed cream
tourna quasi gut armor (qga) / isospeed cream
OGSM super / isospeed cream
Kirschbaum synthetic gut / prince warrior response
qga/harrier response(japanese version of warrior response)
qga/toalson polywire plas (tpp)
SP Micronite / tpp
HDMX 1.30 /Warrior Response
hdmx 1.30 /tpp
hdmx 1.25/tpp 1.25
HDMX 1.30/harrier response blue 1.29
hdmx 1.25/polyfibre tcs 1.25

Decent multi mains for hybriding (assuming you are not a string breaker, and YMMV!):
- HDMX 1.30 - firmer than the others on this list, but still comfy and offers the most predictable response (for me). Slides back easiest of the strings I have tried and keeps sliding better than the others. It has a tension drop and an accompanying power boost after the first couple hours, but it plays pretty consistently after that.
- Tourna Quasi Gut Armor (notches quickly but keeps sliding - gets a little clicky after 6-8 hrs)
- Isospeed Control Classic (slides pretty well, but use only if you don't mind muted strings)
- Kirschbaum synthetic gut (keeps sliding pretty well, but loses power/crispness as time goes by. If I could have this fresh every session, it would be a top contender)

Soft poly crosses I have tried:
- Toalson Polywire Plas: The softest I have tried, almost syn gut–like, but it stays slick like a normal poly until the mains break. Feels comfy until mains break IME.
- Prince Warrior Response (US)/Prince Harrier Response(Japan): This is a sleeper as a cross for a soft string in the mains. More muted than Polywire, but more comfortable than cream IMO. Nice and slick and holds up well with multi/syn gut in the mains. I have heard it notches fast with itself or an even stiffer string in the mains, so unlike cream, which kind of flattens out as it wears away, I would not use this as a cross for poly/poly hybrids.
- Isospeed Cream: Nice and slick, and pretty arm friendly, but not as much as the other two on the list. It probably is sickest of the crosses on this list, but not by a lot. Starts to feel a little harsh to me around the 10 hour mark in some racquets. I kept one pack to revisit in the future, and my impression about comfort may change when I try it again.
polyfibre tcs: feels kind of dead at first but loosens and the sweetspot opens up. stays arm friendly until you break the mains. because of its listedtension loss numbers, I was.worried control would drop off a cliff, but this was not the case in the hybrid I tried. i used a prestige mid, so ymmv in a more powerful racquet with an open pattern. I might get a little more spin with tpp crosses, but I like the pretty clear feedback tcs gives without having a harsh edge

Not great for hybriding (YMMV)
- micronite (nice and crisp at first locks up too fast and then feels kind of uncomfortable)
- ogsm super 16. although I like this in a full bed in my rebel 95, and it plays well in a hybrid when fresh and seems relatively notch-resistant, it starts to feel increasingly dull in a hybrid as time passes. It also feels like it plays like a thicker string than the other 16g mains I have used. 17g might be good.


On the horizon (mains/crosses):
ak pro/tpp
toalson asterista armored(taa)/tpp
taa/tcs
tcs/hdmx
(tbd)/Isospeed Rexxxer

also check out：Thread 'Synthetic gut Mains / Polyester Crosses Club' http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/synthetic-gut-mains-polyester-crosses-club.618668/

* These lists will be updated as I try new combinations
 
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Gosen AK Pro CX/Isospeed Cream - Powerful/minimal dwell
Head FXP/Isospeed Baseline - Good dwell and control
Kirschbaum SG/Isospeed Baseline - Good dwell, pop, and control
Kirschbaum SG/Kirschbaum Evolution - Good dwell, pop, touch, control (not a fan of blue polys as they stiffen up quickly IME)
Gosen AK Pro CX/Kirschbaum Max Power Rough - Does everything very well and lasts
 
PurcellPower said:
Gosen AK Pro CX/Kirschbaum Max Power Rough - Does everything very well and lasts
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Full bed AK Pro CX was pretty good once I had the tension dialed in. What I didn’t like was the crazy string movement, even for a non-poly, and the fact that the slippery coating wore off fast, like within 2 hrs. I have a reel of Max Power and love its responsiveness and control but felt it was too stiff for me being used in mains (crossed with Ghostwire). So I was toying with trying AK mains and Max Power crosses. While you used rough, I think your experience has given me more motivation to try it out. Now I just need to wait for a set to get cheap! They are rather expensive where I am at the moment. How was the durability? Quasi gut with poly was nice, but didn’t last for me to consider it viable (which was a real pity). Full bed quasi was meh too…
 
Yay for this thread!

Gosen AK Control 1.24 / Ghostwire 1.22 (52#/48# in a Vcore95) - Good spin and nice "pop" sound. I restring every 10-15 (TE paranoia) hours so not sure on longevity.

It seems like a lot more AK Pro CX users vs. AK Control users (and not just this thread). I've only used Control. Feedback form those who have used both?
 
forzmr_b said:
Full bed AK Pro CX was pretty good once I had the tension dialed in. What I didn’t like was the crazy string movement, even for a non-poly, and the fact that the slippery coating wore off fast, like within 2 hrs. I have a reel of Max Power and love its responsiveness and control but felt it was too stiff for me being used in mains (crossed with Ghostwire). So I was toying with trying AK mains and Max Power crosses. While you used rough, I think your experience has given me more motivation to try it out. Now I just need to wait for a set to get cheap! They are rather expensive where I am at the moment. How was the durability? Quasi gut with poly was nice, but didn’t last for me to consider it viable (which was a real pity). Full bed quasi was meh too…
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I used 17g for both at 52m/46x in a 98. You may not like it, but quasi gut is too soft/mushy in any form for me. The combo i mentioned above is crisp but not stiff and still provides good pocketing.
 
shankingSherpa said:
Yay for this thread!

Gosen AK Control 1.24 / Ghostwire 1.22 (52#/48# in a Vcore95) - Good spin and nice "pop" sound. I restring every 10-15 (TE paranoia) hours so not sure on longevity.

It seems like a lot more AK Pro CX users vs. AK Control users (and not just this thread). I've only used Control. Feedback form those who have used both?
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Unfortunately, I have only used ak pro (without cx) and ak control, and only as a full bed, so ymmv. ak control was definitely the springier of the two, but it sticks to itself and locks up fast. Is snapback pretty good with poly crosses？
 
control classic/cream hybrid 51/47

-surprisingly good spin

-relatively low power, though more than fb control classic at 60 lbs

-a little too muted for me, but comfy

-got launchy around the 10hr mark.
 
quasi gut armor 16/cream 17 hybrid 52/48

-great spin

-rather powerful, but can be controlled with spin on tap.

-not amazing feel. a little muted bit I knew where the ball hit the bed. good comfort.

-notching started immediately, but the string keeps sliding laterally.
 
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ogsm super 16 / cream 17 49/45 (rebel 95 18x20)

i have only played an hour and a half with this setup, so will update re. durability.

-spin was outstanding. maybe even better than with quasi gut armor mains.

-power was intense. i found things dipping in on full swings, but if I hesitated, balls would sail. I am going to try a few pounds tighter next time.

-feel was crisp but still comfy. best of the combos i have tried.

-really great sound on hard hits

update: 4 hours in, and although cream is starting to show some signs of wear (small dents and little pieces coming off here and there), the OGSM super still looks fresh. very different than my experience with quasi gut armor, which was getting torn up pretty quickly. power seems to have dropped off a little bit, which is nice, though spin also seems to have dropped a bit. Outside of the sweetspot also feeling a little firmer, but inside still feels great.
 
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Rabbit said:
Have a look here:

Synthetic gut Mains / Polyester Crosses Club

After many, many, many dollars spent on string (and cortisone), I think I have arrived at a "perfect" string bed. It's not too firm, not too soft, just right. Synthetic gut mains with a poly cross is just about the perfect blend of two worlds. I like the feel of synthetic gut because that's...
tt.tennis-warehouse.com tt.tennis-warehouse.com
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thank you for pointing that out. will add to first post
 
the syngut 16g mains and 18g slick stiff poly cross is a very popular setup and plays just GREAT, especially on tight string patterns and flexible frames…will be testing with pro’s pro strings (1.30 syngut mains, 1.22 concept cross) on my ig radical pro, at 22/19kg, it’s a 16x19 frame but still pretty tight pattern so I hope not to snap them within an hour.
 
@tele correct me if I'm wrong but I think I recall you recommending Monogut ZX as the softest and most slicky... yet you're not using it as a cross? Elaborate please... ;)
 
Automatix said:
@tele correct me if I'm wrong but I think I recall you recommending Monogut ZX as the softest and most slicky... yet you're not using it as a cross? Elaborate please... ;)
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my elbow is healthy, so i am currently using soft poly crosses, which had irritated it a bit in the past. although zx is indeed slick and soft, and it is my favorite non poly cross, it is rather powerful when paired with nylon. i am keeping a couple sets around to use again if i have another flare up and also plan to experiment with other nylon/zx combos in the future. however, i do not have a stringer, so experimentation is proceeding slowly. . .
 
tele said:
my elbow is healthy, so i am currently using soft poly crosses, which had irritated it a bit in the past. although zx is indeed slick and soft, and it is my favorite non poly cross, it is rather powerful when paired with nylon. i am keeping a couple sets around to use again if i have another flare up and also plan to experiment with other nylon/zx combos in the future. however, i do not have a stringer, so experimentation is proceeding slowly. . .
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Gotcha! All testing done in EXO3 Rebel 95?
What specs are you rocking?
 
Automatix said:
Gotcha! All testing done in EXO3 Rebel 95?
What specs are you rocking?
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that or a cx 200 tour(monogut zx was in that one). the rebels have become my main racquets as of late. ~345 g strung with overgrip, 325−330ish sw depending on strings. balance around 32 cm

i weighted the cx 200 tour (292 sw unstrung) up to similar specs and moved the weight around until it felt good. not sure exactly what balance or sw are, but they are in the same ballpark as the rebel.
 
I string for myself and my wife. But occasionally, someone at my club will talk to me or my wife about their arm or wrist hurting. I'll check out their racquet and find that some shop has been stringing full bed 16g poly. My go to in that case is to offer to string their racquet for free, and I use 16g or 17g Velocity on the mains, and 1.22 Ghost Wire on the crosses. Lots of compliments on that set up.
 
kirschbaum syn gut 1.30 48/ prince warrior response 1.30 response review based on the first 2 hours of hitting with a rebel 95 (yellow)

spin: better than ogsm super/cream and gave me more more confidence going for it. perhaps slightly less power, but more predictable. the launch angle was lower. spin remained good but seemed to gradually drop after the first few hours.

power: just right for my low-powered 95 sq in. 18x20. Good depth, and the ball only sailed on me when I didn't follow through properly. Felt amazing to serve flat with. power seemed to drop with time.

feel: less muted, and better ball pocketing compared to ogsm super/ cream, though I think warrior response might be slightly stiffer than cream. dunno about arm friendliness without playing for more time, but it felt really nice today. i prefer to ogsm/cream, though that combo does provide more of a "ball crushing" sensation on hard hits. ball pocketing, crispness, and spin gradually decline, but comfort seemed fine before I cut it out. In both racquets, I loved the hitting sensation this setup gave for the 1st few hours.


durability: i cut out before breaking the mains, but it was clear that they would be the first to go, as they were notched halfway through. The surface of warrior response gradually got rougher, which seemed to impede spin, though i did not notice much string movement even at 8+ hrs.
 
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tele said:
kirschbaum syn gut 1.30 48/ prince warrior response 1.30 response review based on the first 2 hours of hitting with a rebel 95 (yellow)

spin: better than ogsm super/cream and gave me more more confidence going for it. perhaps slightly less power, but more predictable. the launch angle was lower.

power: just right for my low-powered 95 sq in. 18x20. Good depth, and the ball only sailed on me when I didn't follow through properly. Felt amazing to serve flat with.

feel: less muted, and better ball pocketing compared to ogsm super/ cream, though I think warrior response might be slightly stiffer than cream. dunno about arm friendliness without playing for more time, but it felt really nice today. i prefer to ogsm/cream, though that combo does provide more of a "ball crushing" sensation on hard hits.

durability: warrior response does not seem to have much surface hardness, and dents were already present before i started hitting. i will update when i have a better idea.
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I also now have this setup in a prince phantom graphite 97. Comfort has remained very good in both racquets. I feel like power has gone up with tension loss, but I adjusted pretty easily. Although the warrior response dented at first, it is not forming notches. Although the kirschbaum still isn't notched on my rebel 95, on the 16x19 graphite 97, fairly big notches appeared on the syn gut mains the first time I used it (2 hours including 2 sets), though they are still snapping back. So far, I think I like warrior response better than cream as a cross, at least for syn gut, but I need to try kirschbaum/cream before I come up with a definitive answer.

on the horizon: just got a pack of Toalson Polywire Plas (elastomer/poly blend) crosses. Clear blue! debating whether to use kirschbaum sg or tourna QG armor mains.
 
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tele said:
on the horizon: just got a pack of Toalson Polywire Plas (similar construction to warrior response - elastomer on inside, poly on outside, but apparently even softer) crosses. Clear blue! debating whether to use kirschbaum sg or tourna QG armor mains.
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Where did you source it from? Thought it's available only in Asia?
 
tele said:
i live in japan
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tele said:
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on the horizon: just got a pack of Toalson Polywire Plas (similar construction to warrior response - elastomer on inside, poly on outside, but apparently even softer) crosses. Clear blue! debating whether to use kirschbaum sg or tourna QG armor mains.
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Does it say that on the packaging/website or it is your guess based on pictures?
 
Automatix said:
Does it say that on the packaging/website or it is your guess based on pictures?
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that was a mistake. post edited！ i mistook the round background in the pic for the exterior of the string. the webbsite just says the elastomer is part of the string
 
quasi gut armor/harrier response(japanese warrior response) first impressions - I only played for about 45 minutes, but spin was better than with kirschbaum syn gut/warrior response. It was more powerful, but I did not feel out of control. It also had significantly more feedback. Kirschbaum syn gut is probably my favorite syn gut, and for the first couple of hours of hitting, it feels really pleasant. However, based on my experience today, I am starting to think quasi gut armor is just a better string as a mains. One would hope so given the fact that it is 3x as expensive. Will report back.

(early)update：around 3 hrs in. Comfort has improved, and spin is still superior to other combos. notching has set in on the mains. Although it doesnt feel quite as nice as fresh kb syn gut/warrior, I am playing best with this setup so far. Due to the spin, hard flat shots are dipping earlier than I had grown accustomed to with the kb setup, so i feel more comfortable stepping harder on the gas.
 
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tele said:
If poly is too harsh, fb nylon too mushy, and gut/poly too expensive, then welcome! I hope this forum can be a useful resource for those interested in the topic where people can share reviews/experiences and ask questions.

Politely requested ground rules (subject to revision):

Try to keep posts relevant to the topic. In other words, things like "I have never used a nylon mains/smooth poly combo, but I love a full bed of (insert your favorite poly, or any other string for that matter)" or "Unless you are as good as I claim to be, it is stupid to think you could benefit in the least from having poly in your stringbed, so please use a full bed of the crappiest syn gut you can find and feel inadequate" would be better said elsewhere.

Combos I have tried thus far*:
isospeed control classic / isospeed cream
tourna quasi gut armor / isospeed cream
OGSM super / isospeed cream
Kirschbaum synthetic gut / prince warrior response


On the horizon*:
Kirschbaum synthetic gut / cream 1.27
Tourna Quasi Gut Armor / Warrior Response
Signum Pro Micronite / Warrior Response
(undecided) / Poly Wire Plas

also check out：Thread 'Synthetic gut Mains / Polyester Crosses Club' http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/synthetic-gut-mains-polyester-crosses-club.618668/

* These lists will be updated as I try new combinations
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How did you feel the isospeed control classic performed in terms of power and control? Have you considered trying isospeed control (non classic), RIP control, triax, HDMX ect
 
MinDango said:
How did you feel the isospeed control classic performed in terms of power and control? Have you considered trying isospeed control (non classic), RIP control, triax, HDMX ect
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Control classic had good control in the cream hybrid for the first 10 hours or so, but it was a little too muted for me paired with a poly like cream, which is already pretty muted. The power was fine, but not overwhelming - less than other syn guts/multis I have tried so far, but I think it was higher than a full bed of control classic at 58 lbs. The spin was better in the hybrid. I love control classic in a full bed when I need something comfortable and controlled, though.

Because rip control is also fairly muted, I have not considered trying it in a hybrid—same for isospeed control (non-classic). I was underwhelmed by triax when I tried it in a full bed a few years back, and because it is so expensive, I am avoiding it for now. I have always been curious about HDMX. I like NXT control, and HDMX seems pretty similar in construction. The color is also kind of fun. I might try it at some point.
 
Weather is damp here in the UK these days so I have been bagging my usual gut/poly setup and using my multi/poly more instead:

Technifibre Multifeel 16 natural on mains, Head Lynx Touch 17 on crosses at 53/51, on Yonex RDS 003

Compared to gut/poly: less easy power of course, especially for my flat first serve, but more accessible spin, especially for topspin forehands and my slice serve. Very crisp on slices in general. Can hit my targets easily on my groundstrokes. Less feel on touch shots and volleys but still more than enough putaway power. Can hit all my targets on groundstrokes with consistent depth (especially useful when the balls get a bit damp). Always comfortable on the arm.

No noticeable fraying or notching after 8+ hours of play. I usually break gut/poly on the mains after 30 hours or so, so I'm not a chronic stringbreaker. I usually play on synthetic grass, which lends itself to shorter rallies and favours flatter shots. YMMV

Lynx Touch is usually brought up as something to "soften" a stiffer poly main setup but it actually works great as a soft cross for gut or multi, especially with a more control-oriented multi such as Multifeel.
 
As above I need to start thinking about switching out of gut/poly for the UK Winter. Seem to remember Tier One Triumph performing very nicely in a multi/poly setup, might have to order some more of that...
 
My rebel 95 is getting strung with Tourna Quasi Gut Armor (henceforth referred to as "QGA") mains and Toalson Polywire Plas (henceforth referred to as "tpp") crosses. Hitting it on Wednesday.
 
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qga/tpp first impression.

if someone had told me I was hitting with a spinny full nylon setup, I would not have doubted them. with cream and warrior response, i can immediately sense poly is in the cross due to increased boardiness, but this felt very soft from the first hit.

Power is around that of a fb of ogsm in the mid 50s, but spin/snapback is much better thus far. The spin difference is most noticeable on big swings. I was a little tentative at first, so balls were sailing long, but once I loosened up and started swinging freely, I did not have any problems with control. Volleys felt really nice. The ball seems to dwell on the string bed for an especially long time for a racquet with a poly in the crosses.

The mains notched quickly but kept sliding back. The crosses moved around a bit though, something i also noticed with qga when it was paired with cream and monogut zx. No notching on the tpp yet. The surface of the tpp was already a little roughed up in places.

Overall, tpp seems to have the surface characteristics of a poly with the softness and power of a firmer syn gut. It does not have the crazy power of monogut zx, though, which I was happy about. It seems like a good match for hybriding with gut or nylon mains in lower powered racquets with dense string patterns. I will have to see if playability abd comfort holds up, though.

The clear blue color also looks pretty cool！
 
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Automatix said:
@tele how does TPP compare to Cream, Swift and Ghostwire?
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I have only used cream 1.23, but TPP is softer(edit: and more powerful I think) than cream at the same tension. I can immediately feel the difference between fb multi/syn-gut and a hybrid with cream crosses in terms of stiffness. Not the case with TPP.
 
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I have only used cream 1.23, but TPP is softer(edit: and more powerful I think) than cream at the same tension. I can immediately feel the difference between fb multi/syn-gut and a hybrid with cream crosses in terms of stiffness. Not the case with TPP.
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Very interesting... too bad it's not available anymore. :(
 
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Very interesting... too bad it's not available anymore. :(
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it is still available here, but dunno for how long based on what was posted on your thread. if playability holds up next session, I am probably going to snag a reel
 
After I finish my Co-Poly sets, I will adopt Synthetic Gut Armor 17 on my Prestige 360+ MP. Full Bed. I was really interested in the concept of the string, and the comments it has been receiving. It looks like a nylon core protected by a layer of Polyester. I just wanted to know if it would be worth spending more on Quasi Gut Armor or going to SGA.
 
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After I finish my Co-Poly sets, I will adopt Synthetic Gut Armor 17 on my Prestige 360+ MP. Full Bed. I was really interested in the concept of the string, and the comments it has been receiving. It looks like a nylon core protected by a layer of Polyester. I just wanted to know if it would be worth spending more on Quasi Gut Armor or going to SGA.
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As I mentioned in the other thread, i have not played with sga, but I think whIch one is better would depend on whether you like the way syn guts or multis feel. I wouldnt put too much emphasis on the poly elements of the strings as a factor, though. small poly fibers do not make nylon strings behave like a poly monofilament. qga definitely feels like a multi, and I have read that sga feels like syn gut.
 
My two contributions:
Gosen syngut 16g/Hawk Power 17g
This had a really nice blend of comfort, feel and power. Spin was average but durability pretty good.

Multi main 16g/poly tour strike 1.20
I used an old Pacific Multi (PMX) and it broke quickly. Could've been age or a soft multi, don't know much about it. But a better multi would likely last longer with the thinner poly. Great power and control, again spin was average. Very comfortable setup

Neither were used in particularly spin friendly racquets though.
First combo an Ultra Tour 18x20
Second a Pro Staff 95 16x19.
 
tele said:
it is still available here, but dunno for how long based on what was posted on your thread. if playability holds up next session, I am probably going to snag a reel
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I was sick for 2 weeks, so my first session back was yesterday. for about an hour. The stringbed seemed to have a little less power and seemed to have become more muted (i think this was the crosses, as qga did not feel like this with monogut zx), though that could have been weather- or ball-related. Comfort was still great. The crosses moved around a bit, but the mains kept sliding back into place.

I picked up an old prince exo3 tour 98 hoping it would be a more forgiving version of my regular stick for days when I have particularly challenging opponents. putting in signum pro micronite with tpp crosses tomorrow and will report back on that combo.
 
Any opinions on poly main/syn gut crosses? I know this string bed would feel firmer than syn gut main/poly crosses but may provide more spin? Cheers...
 
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Any opinions on poly main/syn gut crosses? I know this string bed would feel firmer than syn gut main/poly crosses but may provide more spin? Cheers...
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never used that combo, though there are plenty of threads on it. ogsm seems to be a particularly popular sg cross
 
hit with signum pro micronite/tpp (53/51) today. It was my first time with the exo3 98, so it wasn't exactly a controlled experiment, but here were my impressions.

power− just about right. I could put away balls when I wanted, but backing off on touch shots was easy to do.

comfort-Totally fine. However, I suspect the poly character of tpp comes out at higher tensions. There was just a touch of wiryness(is that a word?) to the feel. I will continue stringing tpp around 50, but I don't think I want to go any higher.

spin-ridiculous, though I think a lot of that could be the racquet. my rebel 95 is very dense, and the exo3 tour 98 is considerably more open. My kick serve immediately became much more of a weapon, and the difference in spin was obvious on groundstrokes.

durability - hard to say, but the surface of both the micronite and tpp are already roughed up. Although the mains stayed straight, the strings are already making a clicking sound when I pull on them.

So far, micronite seems like a nicer feeling string than qga. It felt softer but seemed to respond more quickly, in a pleasant way.

**Update - After around 5 hours, the micronite does not seem to be sliding as well. Spin is still good, but the lateral "give" of the stringbed on topspin shots feels like it has gone down. Depth control, etc. is still good though, but the feel is less pleasant than it was initially. The mains are still staying mostly straight, but I think qga may be better at maintaining less friction with crosses as it notches.
 
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That TPP has become your go-to cross I see...
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I am definitely liking tpp in my rebel 95 and will keep using it as a cross in that racquet. However, I am still not sure about tpp in the more open tour 98 (2014), which has good control and spin with its current setup but has a "light" feel on impact that I want to see if I can make a little more solid (I have already tweaked weight and swingweight). I am going to try a thicker main string first (HDMX). If that does the trick, I will likely leave it in, at least until summer. If not, I might use Warrior/Harrier Response in that racquet.
 
tele said:
I am definitely liking tpp in my rebel 95 and will keep using it as a cross in that racquet. However, I am still not sure about tpp in the more open tour 98 (2014), which has good control and spin with its current setup but has a "light" feel on impact that I want to see if I can make a little more solid (I have already tweaked weight and swingweight). I am going to try a thicker main string first (HDMX). If that does the trick, I will likely leave it in, at least until summer. If not, I might use Warrior/Harrier Response in that racquet.
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Too bad you didn't have the opportunity to try Ghostwire and Swift for comparison sake.
I'm curious what's the softest non-nylon monofilament out there... also which one doesn't stiffen up after time.
Not a fan of Monogut ZX.
 
Automatix said:
Too bad you didn't have the opportunity to try Ghostwire and Swift for comparison sake.
I'm curious what's the softest non-nylon monofilament out there... also which one doesn't stiffen up after time.
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I can understand not being a fan of Monogut ZX. If I couldn't use poly crosses, I would use it, but it feels a little weird and packs way too much power.

I agree it would be nice to compare Ghostwire and Swift to Cream, though from the other threads, it seems like Swift may be virtually indistinguishable from Cream. I would like to try Poly Tour Air, Head Lynx Touch, and Ghostwire at some point, but I am going to focus for the time being on getting a setup hybrid setup dialed in for each of my two main racquets (tour 95 and tour 98) using the strings I have.

Although I think I can unequivocally say Monogut ZX is the softest of the monofilaments I have tried, it is hard to say with the others I have tested so far. Although I suspect second place would go to TPP, I still don't know how it will perform after 15 hours or so (I wish I could play more and speed up the process!). Moreover, I wonder if the feel of some of these strings could be more tension-sensitive than others (i.e. a given string might feel more pleasant than another in the 40s but less pleasant in the 50s). I tested out a number of frames over the past couple of years after coming down with TE, but now that I have settled on two frames, I can hopefully make some more objective comparisons in the future.
 
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