Non poly recommendations

I've recently been hit with tennis elbow due to hitting with dead poly, yes stupid me. its been a few weeks now, im looking at some recommendations for non poly strings, any one have experience with well performing non poly strings with decent spin?
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
Just play with poly that is not dead (less than 10-15 hours typically) at tensions below 50lbs and you will be fine especially if your racquet is not too stiff. If you play at a 4.5+ level, it is tough to find other soft strings that give you the control and spin of poly for a fast swing speed which is why it has taken over the entire advanced player world in the last two decades. If you play below 4.5, you could try the best multifilaments or even gut as you are probably not going to miss the extra spin/control too much.

You need to rest and heal your injury before you play again anyway. Don’t ever play again with dead poly and tell all your friends that also.
 
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PRS

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I would try what Casper or Happi said. Tecnifibre triax or HDMX would be good to try; they're part of their multi-poly fusion line, so they won't be super soft, but they'll still have decent durability and spin.

However, especially as you first start getting back to tennis, it might be better to try x-one biphase or Multifeel (also from Tecnifibre - they're the best for multis in my opinion), as they're true, traditional multis that'll be nice and soft.
 

Happi

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Just play with poly that is not dead (less than 10-15 hours typically) at tensions below 50lbs and you will be fine especially if your racquet is not too stiff. If you play at a 4.5+ level, it is tough to find other soft strings that give you the control and spin of poly for a fast swing speed which is why it has taken over the entire advanced player world in the last two decades. If you play below 4.5, you could try the best multifilaments or even gut as you are probably not going to miss the extra spin/control too much.

You need to rest and heal your injury before you play again anyway. Don’t ever play again with dead poly and tell all your friends that also.
You can play high level tennis with multifilament strings, Djokovic used to play with X-One.
 

PRS

Professional
That is true, but would a particular high level player play even better with poly? Just like Djokovic does.
Gut/poly you can definitely still play at the highest level, and would be better for the elbow than full poly. And while you are right that most experienced players will have a higher ceiling using poly than multi, it really shouldn't make a huge difference; you can still be plenty good playing without poly. Too many people think poly is magic, when 95% of what happens it's still on the player and their strokes. You might need to adjust some when leaving poly, but you should still be able to play at close to the same level.
 

heavyD

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I would try what Casper or Happi said. Tecnifibre triax or HDMX would be good to try; they're part of their multi-poly fusion line, so they won't be super soft, but they'll still have decent durability and spin.

However, especially as you first start getting back to tennis, it might be better to try x-one biphase or Multifeel (also from Tecnifibre - they're the best for multis in my opinion), as they're true, traditional multis that'll be nice and soft.
I would throw NRG2 in there as well.
 

Chairman3

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Gamma Marathon 15L (if you break non-poly strings) super durable and low powered for a syngut. Decent spin, but it does drop off as the string gets nearer to breaking.

There's always a hybrid solution, find the softest poly main and multi or syngut cross.
If I strung my own racquets, I would probably just use full syngut, great value-performance ratio, almost unbeatable. There are some good synguts out there.
 

Grafil Injection

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If you have a modern large racket with open string-bed, you can't go wrong with Sensation 15 or 16. Also in a hybrid with the multi in the crosses. If you're using a smaller classic frame, any of the typical synguts in 16 or 17 are great.
 

Happi

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That is true, but would a particular high level player play even better with poly? Just like Djokovic does.
Well poly does for most players have a performance advantage, but that’s not the same as players cant compete at high level with multi strings. My coach won the ITF World Championship 50+ with Head RIP Control, and that is pretty high level.

Thread title was “non poly recommendations” and I guess most players do play better tennis with a healthy arm.
 

Happi

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If I strung my own racquets, I would probably just use full syngut, great value-performance ratio, almost unbeatable. There are some good synguts out there.
True, I play great with FB syn gut in my 18x20 racquet, but in an open pattern racquet strings are all over the place in 5-10 min if you hit with any kind of spin.

What will be your suggestion for good syn gut, thanks.
 
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socallefty

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guess most players do play better tennis with a healthy arm.
OP admitted that he hurt his arm playing with dead poly. Playing with poly properly (cutting it out early before it is dead and before you feel pain) at low tensions does not mean your arm will get injured.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
Gut/poly you can definitely still play at the highest level, and would be better for the elbow than full poly. And while you are right that most experienced players will have a higher ceiling using poly than multi, it really shouldn't make a huge difference; you can still be plenty good playing without poly. Too many people think poly is magic, when 95% of what happens it's still on the player and their strokes. You might need to adjust some when leaving poly, but you should still be able to play at close to the same level.
I used to play with fullbed gut for many years and then switched to gut/poly hybrids which I prefer to fullbed poly. For me, it was a big difference in performance as I can hit out so much more freely and have more control with enhanced spin. I used to string gut at 58 lbs which was at the edge of what was comfortable for me and now I string the gut/poly hybrid at 47/44 lbs which is very comfortable to me. If I don’t break the gut, I cut it out after about 15-18 hours (mix of singles and doubles) as that is when my arm will feel some tightness and I know if I play longer it will get sore as the poly crosses are dead.
 
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hadoken

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Multi mains and a soft poly hybrid strung under 48lbs should be manageable. I am 50 and can’t play with anything overly stiff and I find this combo is a good compromise especially if u go with a very soft multi like NRG2
 

tele

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I've recently been hit with tennis elbow due to hitting with dead poly, yes stupid me. its been a few weeks now, im looking at some recommendations for non poly strings, any one have experience with well performing non poly strings with decent spin?
if you still get twinges of pain with the recommendations so far, try isospeed control classic. spin is not spectacular, but it is relatively low powered, so you can swing out with decent confidence, and it is supremely comfortable.
 
OP, the way to avoid playing with dead poly is to string hybrid. Multifilament mains break at a rate that keeps you from wrecking your arm. They also tend to hold tension better right up until they break. My "go-to" string job is Tecnifibre Multifeel and a round, slick poly cross.
 

fuzz nation

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I've recently been hit with tennis elbow due to hitting with dead poly, yes stupid me. its been a few weeks now, im looking at some recommendations for non poly strings, any one have experience with well performing non poly strings with decent spin?
Coming from poly, I think you can expect to get an extra measure of softness from syn. gut while keeping some of the backbone and crispy personality that's more associated with poly that with many multis. I do appreciate that multis can be very good for players who need a string bed that's easy on the arm, but I find that many of them can steadily degrade (soften and fray) as they're used compared with syn. guts. While that can be expected from a softer string, premium multis can also be quite expensive, especially compared with syn. guts.

A few years ago I tried a "softer" poly tensioned in the low 40's in a familiar racquet - Volkl C10 - and that annihilated my arm after only two short sessions of hitting with it. I had an acute case of tennis elbow that put me out of action for several weeks. I can put a a snug bed (when I say snug, I mean tensioned at 57-58 lbs.in warmer conditions) of syn. gut in those same frames and slug with them every day with the high school kids I coach - no issues at all. Syn. gut gives me all the performance I want and it's kind to my arm.

Gosen OGSM is a popular syn. gut that's rather durable, but it's one of the stiffer syn. guts around. I don't use it in my own frames, but it could be a good first step away from poly for somebody like yourself. Because this string is rather tough, you might get a decent combo of spin and service life with the 17 ga. option, but it would probably be smart to compare it against a bed of the 16 ga., which should wear less quickly.

Moderately soft syn. guts that I sometimes use include Volkl Classic, Babolat, Head (not lately with this one), and Prince Original without the Duraflex. My current favorite is Kirschbaum - it plays like butter at least when it's relatively fresh. The softest syn. gut I know is Forten Sweet, which can actually work as a cheaper substitute for some multis.
 

NicoMK

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Head Velocity is great, I've been using it FB for a few years now. Some say that Gamma Ocho XP is good too, its octogonal structure putting decent effect in the ball, but I haven't tested it yet so I can't really say. And natural gut FB of course, la Rolls des cordages according to Babolat back in the 1980s. Best choice for your arm if you can afford it. Good luck!
 

nov

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Even at 4.0 level, nothing plays better than fresh poly, atleast for 1 match. And the difference is pretty significant.
 

Happi

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Even at 4.0 level, nothing plays better than fresh poly, atleast for 1 match. And the difference is pretty significant.
Well it takes pretty good technique to be able to control multi strings, but that is surely possible even at 4.0 :)
 

veelium

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Head intellitour. Packaged hybrid of rip control and isospeed professional classic.

Low powered multi setup with good spin potential. You can string this at the same tension as whatever poly setup you were using before.
 
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