Nondeserving players who won a slam

[ImmorTAL Big 3]

I got the idea of the thread named "Deserving player not won a slam" to make a similar thread this time about the overachievers-players who were far beyond at quality but somehow won a slam-Thomas Johansson obviously come to mind,maybe Gaudio also. Other suggestions ?

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

 

[aldeayeah]

Many that won slams deserved them not. And some that lost deserved them. Can you give those slams to them? Then do not be too eager to take slams away in judgement.

 

[junior74]

Gonna go with ballerina with girly arms...

Yes, yes - I know he won 20... but he would have won 0 had he been born in 1986 (Spencer G.)

 

[Booger]

Medved sucks the fun out of tennis

Johansson
Gaudio (lol Coria)
Krajicek was mostly a journeyman, but got hot that one time
Muster huge doper
Korda also an obvious doper
Delpo was talented and had injuries, but also lost to a million mugs
Roddick honorable mention since he never broke through again, retired too early
Cilic honorable mention, he played the mug perfectly most of the time

 

[Breakpointerer]

I like how people can instantly tell what this response means

 

[aldeayeah]

I like how people can instantly tell what this response means

@vive le beau jeu !?? hating on a specific player???

 

[StilltheGOAT]

I like how people can instantly tell what this response means

Tell me which player it means???

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

@vive le beau jeu !?? hating on a specific player???

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Spoiler

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

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Spoiler

 

[Hitman]

When someone is so OP that a smile alone destroys everything in its path.

 

[skaj]

Half of the winners on the WTA in the last few years.

 

[skaj]

Gonna go with ballerina with girly arms...

Yes, yes - I know he won 20... but he would have won 0 had he been born in 1986 (Spencer G.)

Djokovic?

 

[Pumpkin]

Jelena Ostapenko, Sam Stosur

 

[NatF]

Thiem

 

[boredone3456]

Marion Bartoli jumps to mind immediately

 

[ollinger]

Sam Stosur

Difficult to understand this one. Made the FO final the year before winning a slam, and her slam doubles record includes 4 titles, plus another 3 in mixed. All tolled, that's a not-too-shabby 8 slam titles. That's a very fine player.

 

[boredone3456]

Difficult to understand this one. Made the FO final the year before winning a slam, and her slam doubles record includes 4 titles, plus another 3 in mixed. All tolled, that's a not-too-shabby 8 slam titles. That's a very fine player.

I'm guessing the reasoning would have to do with the confrontation between Serena and the chair umpire...I do not agree with it, I agree with you, but I'm just guessing

 

[Pumpkin]

Difficult to understand this one. Made the FO final the year before winning a slam, and her slam doubles record includes 4 titles, plus another 3 in mixed. All tolled, that's a not-too-shabby 8 slam titles. That's a very fine player.

Fair call.

 

[Novichok]

• Dominic Thiem
• Gaston Gaudio
• Petr Korda
• [insert name of random WTA one slam wonder here]

 

[Pumpkin]

@ollinger I'm an austalian and I found myself really disappointed often times when I watched her. She seemed to be an expert at finding a way to lose .

 

[skaj]

Jelena Ostapenko, Sam Stosur

Sam Stosur was a very good player, better than half of the girls who won slams in the last couple of years.

 

[skaj]

@ollinger I'm an austalian and I found myself really disappointed often times when I watched her. She seemed to be an expert at finding a way to lose .

She was not always mentally strong enough, but she had a very solid and dangerous game. That's why I think she should have won more, not less.

 

[NAS]

I got the idea of the thread named "Deserving player not won a slam" to make a similar thread this time about the overachievers-players who were far beyond at quality but somehow won a slam-Thomas Johansson obviously come to mind,maybe Gaudio also. Other suggestions ?

Gaudio went through decent draw.
Johansson do got the easy one including final as Marat was not match fit because of excessive partying

 

[junior74]

Djokovic?

or

Your call

 

[NAS]

• Dominic Thiem
• Gaston Gaudio
• Petr Korda
• [insert name of WTA one slam wonder here]

All wrong names, may be apart from Korda who was doping but seeing how Agassi was left off, Korda got only one slam

 

[NAS]

Well to be fair op is not sure, are you talking about One slam wonders or who got slam because of easy draw like some AO in 70s.
There is huge difference, Jelena went through decent to good draw to win slam so I will not call her Non deserving, so as Roddick defeated Nalbandian and Ferrero, while Delpp took down Cilic, Rafa and Fed.
I know Coria choked but Gaudio still went through decent draw.
Thiem also played well, see how he dismantled Med in semi and Zverev in final, he also defeated Cilic and FAA

 

[Shaolin]

Korda should not have been allowed to keep his AO title. Give it to Rios.

Sharapova also. She was nothing after they took away her meldo. Obv she needed it to win her slams.

 

[RaulRamirez]

All wrong names, may be apart from Korda who was doping but seeing how Agassi was left off, Korda got only one slam

Agassi?!

 

[ollinger]

@ollinger I'm an austalian and I found myself really disappointed often times when I watched her. She seemed to be an expert at finding a way to lose

For a while she had a reputation as a bit of a head case, starting to double fault like crazy when things got tight, but she also seemed to overcome that enough times.

 

[RaulRamirez]

What constitutes undeserving?

I could see it if one gets the benefit of a lot of favorable line calls, or if they were found to have been cheating (illegal substances), but I don't get it otherwise. if another player chokes against you in the finals, are people implying that the one who choked deserved to win? That's ridiculous to me.

 

[Pumpkin]

She was not always mentally strong enough, but she had a very solid and dangerous game. That's why I think she should have won more, not less.

Actually I agree.

 

[NAS]

Agassi?!

Caught doping and let off with lie during that same period

 

[ollinger]

Sharapova also. She was nothing after they took away her meldo. Obv she needed it to win her slams.

Meldo not likely to have a significant performance-enhancing effect in a young, healthy person

 

[NAS]

What constitutes undeserving?

I could see it if one gets the benefit of a lot of favorable line calls, or if they were found to have been cheating (illegal substances), but I don't get it otherwise. if another player chokes against you in the finals, are people implying that the one who choked deserved to win? That's ridiculous to me.

Yeah, people confusing one slam wonder like Jelena with non deserving winner.
As I said before Jelena went through good draw so she can't be non deserving

 

[Forgive Me Father]

Does not happen.

 

[RaulRamirez]

Caught doping and let off with lie during that same period

I don't think that any substance AA took was performance-enhancing, and I also took the thread to mean not deserving of winning any slams.

 

[Tennisfan339]

None

 

[NAS]

I don't think that any substance AA took was performance-enhancing, and I also took the thread to mean not deserving of winning any slams.

Doesn't matter should have gotten one and a half year to two year ban, most player will get it if they took the substance.
I was comparing Korda and Agassi situation not saying Agassi should be stripped of all slam

 

[RaulRamirez]

Yeah, people confusing one slam wonder like Jelena with non deserving winner.
As I said before Jelena went through good draw so she can't be non deserving

There are people who are implying Swiatek. She just turned 20, and won Roland Garros at age 19, dropping 28 total games. If she never wins another match...actually, she's having a pretty good year this year...she easily deserved that title!!

 

[NAS]

There are people who are implying Swiatek. She just turned 20, and won Roland Garros at age 19, dropping 28 total games. If she never wins another match...actually, she's having a pretty good year this year...she easily deserved that title!!

Let say Swiatek loose all matches after that RG even then she was deserving winner as she played well.
Weak AO wins during late 70s were non deserving slam or 73 Wimbledon where most atp player boycotted were non deserving one

 

[NAS]

What about 1973 Wimbledon winner Jan kodes

 

[RaulRamirez]

Let say Swiatek loose all matches after that RG even then she was deserving winner as she played well.
Weak AO wins during late 70s were non deserving slam or 73 Wimbledon where most atp player boycotted were non deserving one

Per your latter point, it will be interesting to see what others think. I won't go as far as saying undeserving, even if the fields were reduced. I do see your point, though.

 

[NAS]

Per your latter point, it will be interesting to see what others think. I won't go as far as saying undeserving, even if the fields were reduced. I do see your point, though.

I will not going to call any one slam winner non deserving if he or she played well during that slam with full Participation.

 

[RS]

Roddick USO 03 and Thiem USO 20?

 

[NAS]

Per your latter point, it will be interesting to see what others think. I won't go as far as saying undeserving, even if the fields were reduced. I do see your point, though.

Swiatek played really well and defeated higher ranked opponent including number one

 

[NAS]

Roddick USO 03 and Thiem USO 20?

Only one word bs

 

[NAS]

Per your latter point, it will be interesting to see what others think. I won't go as far as saying undeserving, even if the fields were reduced. I do see your point, though.

Hey what about Thomas Johansson, he played well but he do got easy draw and underperforming Marat.
What are your view about his win

 

[Topspin 365]

Thiem

terrible. dude paid his dues after those 3 finals losses. even though his us open win was cringe. a win is a win.

 

[NatF]

terrible. dude paid his dues after those 3 finals losses. even though his us open win was cringe. a win is a win.

I'm just trolling.