Noob question - first stringing

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Poukin

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Most people find it taboo to string crosses from the bottom up but some manufacturers allow for it. Since you are doing 2 piece, it should never be an issue.

It is okay to finish at the top on the mains!

Check out: http://www.klipperusa.com/stringing/manufacturers.php

This site has stringing patterns for most racquets and will tell you where to start main strings and crosses along with where to tie knots and how much string you should be using.

Good luck! Don't let a few mistakes or the time it takes in the beginning discourage you.
 
Just curious, why do you'd want to string the crosses on your racket bottom up? What you have done worked for this racket but only because it has a even number of crosses. If you had an odd number of crosses it would not have worked.
 
By the way it appears as though you have more than a few missed weaves there. The even numbered crosses must go over every main the odd numbered crosses go under and vice-a-versa. And every cross must alternate over / under through the mains.

Some new stringers get confused when the first cross goes over the 7th main first and the 8th main the next time. If you have that situation and go over the first main each time (one odd and one even main) it will mess you up every time.
 
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It is really hard to see with those black strings but it looks like you skipped 8H and 8T when you did the mains. That racket skips 7H, 9H, and 8T.
 
@Irvin : what do you mean it would have not worked if I had an odd number ? What should I have done ?
What do you mean when you say the even numbered crosses must go over every main ? You mean that you start passing over a main and then alternate ?
And I don't want it bottom up, I just tried to follow the example of my other Dunlop, but I must have failed somewhere.
And I do it in 1 piece not 2 pieces. Thanks.
 
Thanks Irvin, I saw on klipperusa but I dont understand.
When you say 7H, 9H, how do you know the number of the hole ?
 
Poukin said:
@Irvin : what do you mean it would have not worked if I had an odd number ? What should I have done ?
What do you mean when you say the even numbered crosses must go over every main ? You mean that you start passing over a main and then alternate ?
And I don't want it bottom up, I just tried to follow the example of my other Dunlop, but I must have failed somewhere.
And I do it in 1 piece not 2 pieces. Thanks.
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When you ran in the crosses you finished on the short side of the racket and ran you last main down the side. If you would have had one more cross in there you would have finished on the other side and there is no (good) way to get the string on the other side to run the last main.

All crosses must go over every other main.

It does not matter how you start if you weave through 14 mains and start by going over the first you go under the second then over / under until you finish. Then if the next cross goes through 16 mains you MUST start by doing the opposite of what you did for the first cross so the second cross ends up opposite the first on the the center 14 mains.
 
Poukin said:
And what does mean H ? =)
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H = Head T = Throat or some times you see T = Top and B = Bottom. F you see H&T then it is head and throat if you see T&B it is top and bottom

EDIT: Also most of the time the grommet holes count from the center out. So there are two 1H grommet holes one on each side of the frame on each side of the center. Bottom same thing there on two 1T grommet holes one on each side of center.
 
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Ok I understood : you count the hole since the middle. I think I did well passing H7,9 at the top and 8 at the bottom.
 
Last question : I leaved my racket all night and day with just mains stringed up, do I have to make it again or its okay if I do crosses tonight ?
 
Poukin said:
Im using sets.
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Assuming you do not have a starting clamp, rather than using your normal one piece pattern I would use 7 racket lengths of string for the short side. Run in three mains on the short side, 5 mains on the long side, then the last five mains on the short side. When you clamp the last two outside mains on the short side clamp them below 12H so you can run in the fourth cross. Pre weave the fourth and third crosses with the short side and double pull them. Clamp the two crosses together with enough room to clamp the the fifth cross later to the fourth. DON'T REMOVE THAT CLAMP UNTIL ALL THE LOWER CROSSES ARE DONE AND TIED OFF. Now run in the last three mains on the long side and use the long side to run the fifth to bottom cross and tie off.

Now comes a problem the third and fourth crosses do not have full tension. So tension the third cross again and clamp the fourth to the fifth. Pull the third cross out enough to have a loop and reaches the tensioner and tension the fourth cross. Continue to weave and tie off the top crosses.

If you use the flying clamps from the bottom they will not twist and distort the strings as much.
 
Poukin said:
Last question : I leaved my racket all night and day with just mains stringed up, do I have to make it again or its okay if I do crosses tonight ?
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Don't do that again! String the complete racket in one sitting. It should be OK.
 
Poukin said:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rf53sqn37hv2uue/Schema2.jpg

Ok This is your pattern, but how do I finish top crosses ?
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Actually I made a mistake, maybe. I thought your racket skipped 7&9H but you skipped only 8H. I use the short side to rn the second cross below the upside main. Since the short side is 7 racket lengths long you use it to run in all the top crosses which would be either thre or four crosses on most frames. The number of crosses ran with the short side is all the grommet holes skipped at the top plus two crosses. Sometimes that may require more than 7 racket lengths.
 
Poukin said:
This is one string or 2 string pattern what you say ?
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Not sure what the question is here. I always prefer two piece stringing but I don't have flying clamps as you do and I have a starting clamp.
 
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Hi. it looks like there is room at the top to get the string in. If you will, cut the end of the string you're trying to get through there at as an extreme an angle as you can. The goal here is to have it as thin at the tip as possible. Once you do that, it should slide right through.
 
Rabbit said:
Hi. it looks like there is room at the top to get the string in. If you will, cut the end of the string you're trying to get through there at as an extreme an angle as you can. The goal here is to have it as thin at the tip as possible. Once you do that, it should slide right through.
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Once he gets the string through the hole (which should not be a problem) where is he going to go with it?

Dunlop Bio 200 Tour:

String Pattern:
16 Mains / 18 Crosses
Mains skip: 7H,9H,8T
One Piece
No Shared Holes

The OP skipped 8H only.

EDIT: The racket appears to be strung and he left out a cross at the top.
 
Rabbit said:
at this point, you might be well served to cut the string out and start over.
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Looks like he did

Poukin said:
Thanks I made it. But I don't understand, on my other frame, they passed the forth cross to make directly the fifth, and then make the fourth to go to six. I dont understand that whereas we could continue normally ?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y6pkyliwjr4r8ei/2013-05-02 20.06.25.jpg
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This one looks like it is strung correctly. Continue from the 3rd to 4th cross and go down the racket. I will try to show you what I was talking about later.
 
 
Yep I did that beernutz. After finished the stringjob the string before the knot is very loose, I can move it easily with my hand, I don't really know why.
 
Poukin said:
I dont understand what you m'en ?
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If you don't skip a cross there will be one side of the bumper guard that does not have a string over the end. Don't worry about it with flying clamps you would have a very hard time tensioning the strings and holding them.
 
I don't get it ; I did it cross by cross, without jumping 4th cross, and all my holes are filled ; I finish with a loop at the last hole.
 
Oh I understand what you say ; on one side of the bumper guard does not have a string over the end. That's right, but why is a problem ?
 
'Poukin' I am about to string a Dunlop Aerogel 200. I know it is not your racket but it is the same pattern. Would you like to see a video? Any thing special you want to see?
 
Hi Irvin. I would be happy to see you stringing. I strung a Biomimetic 200 tour, not sure if the Aerogel is the same pattern (19 X 20 ?)
Anyway I would see how you do the knots, how do you start (I have flying clamps and no starting clamp), I mean do you clamp one or 2 strings at the beginning ?
That's it for 2 knots method, next time I will try 4 knots !
Thanks !
 
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