Nordic noir, drama from Scandinavia and a little beyond

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Yes indeed.
Racism has been around a long long long time before Nazis and perhaps even before Arians?
We were so tribal and territorial.

If only we had a history recorder in our brains of where we came from and why, things would be so much better. Might have got in the way of survival of the fittest though

But do we need all that baggage now as we populate the planet to bursting point. Need to get on with each other better.

Well off topic now, but interesting all the same.

I think back in the days it was more about survival of the fittest.
And we do get along better and better. Racism has a lot to do with fear. But knowing cultures and physically know people from other cultures makes us less sceptical. Something thats happening naturally with globalisation. USA is a paradox to all this, a divided nation. But overall I think it looks positive. I can see big changes around here how people look at other cultures. Doesnt mean we adopt all cultures or tolerate everything. But respect is the key and accept the differences. Deep down we all are humans.

 

[onehandbh]

I think back in the days it was more about survival of the fittest.
And we do get along better and better. Racism has a lot to do with fear. But knowing cultures and physically know people from other cultures makes us less sceptical. Something thats happening naturally with globalisation. USA is a paradox to all this, a divided nation. But overall I think it looks positive. I can see big changes around here how people look at other cultures. Doesnt mean we adopt all cultures or tolerate everything. But respect is the key and accept the differences. Deep down we all are humans.

Totally agree. The more we get to know each other, the more we realize we are more alike than different and it becomes harder to be racist and divided.

The education system we are exposed to, religion, and our social circle we grow up with also play a large role, too.

The U.S. is a bit divided in some areas, but not all. The areas that have both a diverse population and a population that mingles with others outside their race/social/etc group seem to get along the best.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Totally agree. The more we get to know each other, the more we realize we are more alike than different and it becomes harder to be racist and divided.

The education system we are exposed to, religion, and our social circle we grow up with also play a large role, too.

The U.S. is a bit divided in some areas, but not all. The areas that have both a diverse population and a population that mingles with others outside their race/social/etc group seem to get along the best.

Its not only about racism but sceptisism to different ways of living. F.ex gays.
I feel Nordic countries very liberal and accept different cultures and ways of living more than any other western country I have been to. This includes women liberation. We have ministers being from other nationalities and religions, lots of females in important roles and also gays. Its nothing like it in USA, UK or rest of Europe. Maybe rest of the world. Im proud of this, that we aim for this.

Well, back to Nordic Noir.
A new tv Series that has so far started good. Dark and bizarre, from north of Norway.
Its called Monster

https://tv.nrk.no/serie/monster/MKDP39000113/sesong-1/episode-1

 

[speedysteve]

As storm Ophelia cruises by, largely missing the south coast we have the wood burner on and it's time for the evenings Nordic Noir

Might give that film a go or Rebecka Martinsson, or get voted down for another Gåsmamman..

 

[RacquetAbuse101]

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

As storm Ophelia cruises by, largely missing the south coast we have the wood burner on and it's time for the evenings Nordic Noir

Might give that film a go or Rebecka Martinsson, or get voted down for another Gåsmamman..

Rebecka Martinsson has made me to get a Fjellraven parka for the winter
Enjoy!

 

[onehandbh]

Rebecka Martinsson has made me to get a Fjellraven parka for the winter
Enjoy!

I went to one of the stores in Sweden or iceland when i was on vacation bc i love their logo. I was going to get a backpack but the backpacks didn't quite have enough compartments and pockets for me.

 

[speedysteve]

Have relatives visiting and they brought me requested DVDs.
Saknad and Rebecka Martinsson

Gud är tyst - creepy

The Rebecka Martinsson is 8 episodes. GoA did you say it was just 4?

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Have relatives visiting and they brought me requested DVDs.
Saknad and Rebecka Martinsson

Gud är tyst - creepy

The Rebecka Martinsson is 8 episodes. GoA did you say it was just 4?

They show it on state tv here and here one episode is two episodes other places it seems.
I got excited as i thought it was more! But no.

 

[speedysteve]

They show it on state tv here and here one episode is two episodes other places it seems.
I got excited as i thought it was more! But no.

Sorry!
Hope for another series.

 

[speedysteve]

We watched the first episode of Rebecka Martinsson.
Liked it. Beautiful scenery and captures the small town rural (glesbygd) atomosphere perfectly.
Not seen the famous Parka yet.
A thick Polo neck jumper so far. Winter is coming though

I always keep a Parka in the boot of the car in case.. don't need the snow shovel here though.

 

[onehandbh]

Have relatives visiting and they brought me requested DVDs.
Saknad and Rebecka Martinsson

Gud är tyst - creepy

The Rebecka Martinsson is 8 episodes. GoA did you say it was just 4?

Are there English subtitles?

I can't seem to locate my babel fish.

 

[speedysteve]

Usually the Nordic released ones feature subtitles for just the Nordic countries.
Danska, Finska, Norska, Svenska

Other releases for English, Spanish and other regions depend on intended market.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Usually the Nordic released ones feature subtitles for just the Nordic countries.
Danska, Finska, Norska, Svenska

Other releases for English, Spanish and other regions depend on intended market.

Im watching more of Monster. Its really good. The cinematics, the interior, nature and actors .... Its Nordic Noir taken as far as you can get it.
If you change IP address to Norway you can watch it on NRK for free. Its maybe the best Ive seen since Broen. Very minimalistic as Scandie culture often is.

2 women running naked in the snow for fun and soul cleansing, next day they have a fight and try killing each other. 16 year old cute girls carrying weapons (thats actually legal here) Men solving murders naked in the sauna, leads to another naked fight. Great drama

 

[speedysteve]

Im watching more of Monster. Its really good. The cinematics, the interior, nature and actors .... Its Nordic Noir taken as far as you can get it.
If you change IP address to Norway you can watch it on NRK for free. Its maybe the best Ive seen since Broen. Very minimalistic as Scandie culture often is.

2 women running naked in the snow for fun and soul cleansing, next day they have a fight and try killing each other. 16 year old cute girls carrying weapons (thats actually legal here) Men solving murders naked in the sauna, leads to another naked fight. Great drama

Monster, sounds monstrous
Must check it out.. Sounds like it's probably not for Mrs Steve though..

We're enjoying Rebecka Martinsson.
2 episodes (one story) left.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Monster, sounds monstrous
Must check it out.. Sounds like it's probably not for Mrs Steve though..

We're enjoying Rebecka Martinsson.
2 episodes (one story) left.

Its better than Rebecka Martinsson, the story and scenes. Would think your wife would like it

 

[atatu]

Can't find Saknad, Will have to get it from Sweden
It seems to be called Missing in English. There have been English series The missing. They were good but not Nordic Noir!

I did find Nobel on Netflix.
På Norska. could be of interest..
Have you seen it?

I watched the entire season of Nobel based on someone's recommendation here...great

 

[speedysteve]

Jordskott is back for a second series I heard.
I listen to Swedish radio most days using my old Windows phones as music servers in to a couple of radios about the house..
They interviewed one of the actors.
Have to figure out who's going to show it here.. prob ITV encore again..

Wiki about the first series.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordskott

 

[speedysteve]

Helvete!
The last Rebecka Martinsson story was the best of the 4.
Dropping like flies up in Norra Norrland.
Worse than in Midsomer murders in a quaint English village

Left open for another series.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Helvete!
The last Rebecka Martinsson story was the best of the 4.
Dropping like flies up in Norra Norrland.
Worse than in Midsomer murders in a quaint English village

Left open for another series.

Yeah, that ending was quite disturbing. Typical Nordic Noir!
you maybe understand now I got exited when I thought it was 4 more episodes ?
My mum has been talking about that ending and wanted to discuss it with me, "what do you think she did, stay or not"? So we had a serious talk about that. lol. To then remind our self its only a story.

 

[speedysteve]

Yeah, that ending was quite disturbing. Typical Nordic Noir!
you maybe understand now I got exited when I thought it was 4 more episodes ?
My mum has been talking about that ending and wanted to discuss it with me, "what do you think she did, stay or not"? So we had a serious talk about that. lol. To then remind our self its only a story.

Ha! Yes I understand wanting more. I think it will be back at some point. Unfortunately a lot hangs on ratings.

Yes it's only a story and has a commercial need, although art does get a shout I like to believe. What's the point otherwise.

I think she goes back home, thinks about it, solves a murder or two as quickly as a crossword, then returns with that never ending plastic bottle of hembränt (Home brew) and screws the hell out of him. Sex sells

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Ha! Yes I understand wanting more. I think it will be back at some point. Unfortunately a lot hangs on ratings.

Yes it's only a story and has a commercial need, although art does get a shout I like to believe. What's the point otherwise.

I think she goes back home, thinks about it, solves a murder or two as quickly as a crossword, then returns with that never ending plastic bottle of hembränt (Home brew) and screws the hell out of him. Sex sells

Bur why was she crying in the end when she saw the guy in house through the window?
Did they adopt the kid?

 

[speedysteve]

Bur why was she crying in the end when she saw the guy in house through the window?
Did they adopt the kid?

Tears of regret and joy, fears for the boy, the emotion of seeing Krister with the boy? Pangs of her own childhood haunting her?

It was left hanging though..
After her childhood you'd like to think they adopt.
Hardly perfect adoption material is she, unless she settles down a bit and stops doing all the police work
Mind you the boy doesn't have a better choice, with pyshco tant (not really aunt) trying to kill him and drowning herself she was never really in the picture of course. She should have taken CARE of the boy - he'd accidentally get locked in the freezer or some such a couple of months later mum in Enköping or wherever showing a cold shoulder..

Model Swedish families

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Tears of regret and joy, fears for the boy, the emotion of seeing Krister with the boy? Pangs of her own childhood haunting her?

It was left hanging though..
After her childhood you'd like to think they adopt.
Hardly perfect adoption material is she, unless she settles down a bit and stops doing all the police work
Mind you the boy doesn't have a better choice, with pyshco tant (not really aunt) trying to kill him and drowning herself she was never really in the picture of course. She should have taken CARE of the boy - he'd accidentally get locked in the freezer or some such a couple of months later mum in Enköping or wherever showing a cold shoulder..

Model Swedish families

My mum was "worried" Rebecka couldnt handle the emotions and move back again to Stockholm.
She is obviously in love w the guy. Being w kids is a bit difficult for her because of her childhood.
I think she would have warmed up. The guy is so nice and caring for the kid, so even she is a thriller seeking person the kid will find stability with the new father. Rebecka needs a couple of more horrid murders to solve before she eventually calms down and starts a law firm in the nearest town. She will get pregnant and they all live happily ever after. But as a good Scandi they will never marry, love is enough

 

[speedysteve]

Blir det en ny Rebecka Martinsson säsong? Will there be a new series of Rebecka Martinsson?

http://bloggar.expressen.se/tvblogg...ed-om-mer-rebecka-martinsson-med-ida-engvoll/

Sorry English speakers / readers, it's all in Swedish, but the answer is maybe
As a bonus there are a couple of pics of Rebecka to remind us of our tenacious heroine (or hero if you prefer gender neutral), and even an arty one of Björn Borg!

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Blir det en ny Rebecka Martinsson säsong? Will there be a new series of Rebecka Martinsson?

http://bloggar.expressen.se/tvblogg...ed-om-mer-rebecka-martinsson-med-ida-engvoll/

Sorry English speakers / readers, it's all in Swedish, but the answer is maybe
As a bonus there are a couple of pics of Rebecka to remind us of our tenacious heroine (or hero if you prefer gender neutral), and even an arty one of Björn Borg!

Did u see the Fjallraven parka? Hahahaha

I want more of Rebecka!

 

[speedysteve]

Did u see the Fjallraven parka? Hahahaha

I want more of Rebecka!

Let's hope.
I'm sure we'll see a lot more of Ida Engvoll if not Rebecka..

Going to watch the start of the second series of Jordskott this evening
The forest can be creepy..

 

[speedysteve]

Jordskott series 2. We just about remembered the first series.
You'd have to have seen series 1 to get series 2 at all! The recap was pretty poor.
Where will it lead, what's the point? Oh well nice to hear Swedish spoken

The policewoman from Rebecka Martinsson (she was pregnant at the start) popped up as a doctor, minus the norrlänsdk dialect, oh and Deoda from julkalender Greve på Greveholm circa 1996 was also a policewoman. She was a drug trafficker in Gåsmamman

 

[gogo]

Just marking my spot so I can check this thread out when I have time. I LOVE Nordic drama productions.
Count me in!

(and just wondering if there are some good comedies?? I haven't seen any yet.)

 

[speedysteve]

Just marking my spot so I can check this thread out when I have time. I LOVE Nordic drama productions.
Count me in!

(and just wondering if there are some good comedies?? I haven't seen any yet.)

Umm, do you mean comedy films or series.
I like British comedy films like Shawn of the dead, Hot Fuzz etc. Life of Brian being the daddy of them all..

I've not really kept apace with recent Swedish comedies. Solsidan (Sunny side) was one though. Okay but a bit lame.

There was a police one that was funny called Kopps a few years ago. That was funny.

Classics are Sällskapsresan film series.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sällskapsresan

The best imho being the third S.O.S

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.O.S._–_En_segelsällskapsresa

The golf one was good too

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Den_ofrivillige_golfaren



Lasse Åberg - comedy genius!

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Jordskott series 2. We just about remembered the first series.
You'd have to have seen series 1 to get series 2 at all! The recap was pretty poor.
Where will it lead, what's the point? Oh well nice to hear Swedish spoken

The policewoman from Rebecka Martinsson (she was pregnant at the start) popped up as a doctor, minus the norrlänsdk dialect, oh and Deoda from julkalender Greve på Greveholm circa 1996 was also a policewoman. She was a drug trafficker in Gåsmamman

How are you watching this? Do you have the DVDs?

Think I have to just rent SAKNAD (since i adore that actress) on Amazon if that is possible. Its not on my netflix.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Just marking my spot so I can check this thread out when I have time. I LOVE Nordic drama productions.
Count me in!

(and just wondering if there are some good comedies?? I haven't seen any yet.)

Lillyhammer is a good comedy tv series. Got popular abroad too, w one US actor (that guy from Sopranos)

 

[speedysteve]

How are you watching this? Do you have the DVDs?

Think I have to just rent SAKNAD (since i adore that actress) on Amazon if that is possible. Its not on my netflix.

DVDs. Most we send or take back once we've watched.

 

[gogo]

I think the dark side of the Nordic dramas appeals to me. The protaganists don't have to look perfect. They seem like real people.

And then, if a Nordic series is a big success, the Amerians have to reproduce it and Americanize it. It usually isn't as good.
I wonder, as a Canadian, if our nature is somewhat similar to the Nords. (OK, we're very tainted by our American culture, but I think we can relate to dark and cold!

 

[gogo]

I think the dark side of the Nordic dramas appeals to me. The protaganists don't have to look perfect. They seem like real people.

And then, if a Nordic series is a big success, the Amerians have to reproduce it and Americanize it. It usually isn't as good.
I wonder, as a Canadian, if our nature is somewhat similar to the Nords. (OK, we're very tainted by our American culture, but I think we can relate to dark and cold!

If you ever want to check out typical Canadian humour, one of our favourite Canadian comedy series was Corner Gas. They showed it in the US, and it achieved some cult status, but the Americans, for the most part "didn't get it".

 

[speedysteve]

We watched the second episode of Jordskott second series, (andra säsongen).

Rather like the forest / tree disease some of the characters are 'infected' with, it's growing on me I'm not so sure about Marie though.

Instead of being set in heart of the forest in Silverhöjd this series is in Stockholm set with a rather hard concrete jungle backdrop.

I figure nature or super-nature finds a way, inspite of human constructs.

I do still wonder where it's going, but that is all part of it.

 

[TheMaestro1990]

Johan Falk

 

[onehandbh]

I enjoyed DAG, which is a comedy series from Norway.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dag_(Norwegian_TV_series)

 

[dgold44]

What is Nordic humor ??

Why we are the drunk , suicide , ssri and cancer capital of the Milky Way and we live in weather as nasty as the planet Neptune

 

[junior74]

I absolutely loved this one. I know it has english subtitles. Very dark, aparte, funny.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

I absolutely loved this one. I know it has english subtitles. Very dark, aparte, funny.

That kind of humor I dont understand so well
I like Ylvis kind of humor better. It can be I have too much Italian genetics in me, and sometimes Norwegian comedy gets too dry

What is Nordic humor ??

Why we are the drunk , suicide , ssri and cancer capital of the Milky Way and we live in weather as nasty as the planet Neptune

Nah, thats American humor
This is Norwegian humor:

 

[junior74]

That kind of humor I dont understand so well
I like Ylvis kind of humor better. It can be I have too much Italian genetics in me, and sometimes Norwegian comedy gets too dry

I would not say "Koselig med peis" has humor as its project at all. It's very dark, and it opens up to a reality that sometimes hides behind the nice picket fence, and the humor lies within the tragedy of the broken dreams, the malfunctions and the hopeless relations between the characters. Not a very original idea, but I liked the way it came across in this series. It was very unpolished, very raw.

 

[dgold44]

That kind of humor I dont understand so well
I like Ylvis kind of humor better. It can be I have too much Italian genetics in me, and sometimes Norwegian comedy gets too dry


Nah, thats American humor
This is Norwegian humor:

Hummmmm

 

[speedysteve]

Hehe where this belongs. Tapatalk glitch or speedy finger trouble - who knows

Wet hey, just received the last two episodes of Gåsmamman (mother goose).
The last two of series 3. Is it a tie up and good bye or possible series 4?
Let's hope.

 

[speedysteve]

Started on Saknad, Only one episode so far.
Very good! Marie likes it too, always bonus..

I like a police woman in charge.
Hope she sorts these law breakers out

 

[speedysteve]

We finished Saknad's 4 episodes.

Well crafted and thought provoking.

Wonder if there will be a second series?

Back to Jordskott..

 

[speedysteve]

Jordskott has its critics.
The characters are rather impersonal and hard to like - that's the lot of them.. usually there are a few you can empathize with or even like.

However it's become rather involving.
Yes it's fantasy but it's down to earth fantasy - literally
We were rather indifferent to it during the first series. Watched it for the language more then anything, but as the second series has gone on, it's become a want to watch thing..

 

[speedysteve]

Has anyone seen Black Lake?
The BBC have shown it - must have missed it at the time. Should be available on Iplayer or elsewhere..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2017/black-lake

Gets a real slating here!

http://www.theartsdesk.com/tv/black-lake-series-finale-bbc-four-review-–-nordic-noir-comes-unsatisfying-end

 

[Deleted member 733170]

Just saw the Swedish movie ‘A Man Called Ove’. A sad yet feel good movie at the same time. The Europeans do these movies with low budgets and much greater sensitivity than our friends in Hollywood. The sound track was a feature.

I leave you with the closing song.

 

[dgold44]

So many damn good looking Norwegian folks !!!

Such delicate features they have as if god designed them personally

Sorry can’t say much positive about the British lol