Not sure whether to stick with poly

Wuppy

Professional
So I've been trying to make the switch to poly for the past month or so. I guess I'm a big goofball when it comes to strings because for the life of me -- and as I've posted many times here -- I simply can't tell the difference in play between different poly strings, and I've tried 5 or 6 so far.

However, I can tell the difference between a new poly and one that's been used even for just a couple of hours. In fact I can almost feel the stuff stretching out as I play. My balls fly long and I have much more power, but far less control.

I've been stringing full beds of poly at 62 lbs on a stiff, light frame (68 stiffness, 10.75oz strung). I swing hard and fast with lots of topspin. When the poly is new I can hit that way and balls spin down and in. When the poly is only a couple of hours old they fly long and I have to hit a flatter shot (with admittedly more power).

So I have the following questions:

I hear that poly goes "dead" but for me it comes alive -- way too alive. Is this normal or is this just another thing about poly I'm not grasping? It does not feel "dead" to me, it feels like a trampoline. It doesn't feel bad, it's just too powerful.

Second, I hear people saying that poly goes bad within 10 hours of playing or two weeks of sitting. However, the types I've been using (which admittedly are not Luxilon) go bad within 3 hours MAX. I can hear the difference in the twangy buzz noise when the racquet hits the ball that develops over time. Is this normal? 2-3 hours? Really?

Third, how in the world do people who don't string their own racquets use this stuff? It seems like they'd be in the pro shop every few days. I can't imagine someone could leave it on their racquet UNLESS it tends to stretch out to a certain extent and then stops stretching and they just get used to the stretched version and continue playing with it.

I really don't want to go back to syn gut. I'm not a string breaker at all but I do love the feel of fresh poly. But then again I don't want to spend more time stringing than playing. Not exactly sure what to do. :confused:
 

mawashi

Hall of Fame
62lbs what are u some kind of masochist?

Yes, poly goes dead very fast but you are should really string it lower, it tends to last a bit longer that way and when it goes dead at least it won't hurt you as much.

Try and stay below 52 for poly.

Hitting long is cus the rebound of dead poly isn't there and the spin is much less.
 

Wuppy

Professional
Sorry the first time I strung it at 55 and that was far too loose, it was like playing with syn gut. The main benefit of poly for me, it's absolute deadness, is lost at that tension.

Although that would make sense that it would last longer at that tension... good point. Maybe the folks who play with it for many hours string it lower.
 

Ross K

Legend
62s? I certainly personally can't make that tension work for me with full poly jobs. What polys have you looked at?
 

chaddles

Semi-Pro
If you string polys at 62, no wonder it goes dead in a couple of hours of hitting. Polys aren't designed to be string that high - the string is ruined at that tension.
 

Wuppy

Professional
Well I don't know what to do then. I can't string it lower or I might as well be using syn gut. It feels like a rocket launcher at lower tensions.
 

mawashi

Hall of Fame
That's what I assumed till I made the switch to low tensions. even 45 now is ok for me just get a control poly like tour bite
 

ls206

Professional
Can we have a little more info on your racquet?
It sounds like it's aimed at those with slower swing speeds and need some assisted power.
 

Korso

Semi-Pro
If your going to string polys that high your going to have to restring often to keep the playbility that you are looking for. Polys perform best for me in the mid to upper 40's, if you a play with spin. If you are a flat hitter you should probably look for another type of string. Natural gut at 60 or above should give you what you are looking for.
 

Wuppy

Professional
I'm not sure a swingweight of 301 (probably around 315 due to the lead) would be considered "high power." TW certainly doesn't think so when they say:

Power Level: Medium
Swing Speed: Moderate-Fast

What I like about the poly is that I can rip it as hard as I can and the ball stays in. I like the fact that it's completely dead. If I could string metal chicken wire I would.
 

tymmh789

Rookie
I'm not sure a swingweight of 301 (probably around 315 due to the lead) would be considered "high power." TW certainly doesn't think so when they say:

Power Level: Medium
Swing Speed: Moderate-Fast

What I like about the poly is that I can rip it as hard as I can and the ball stays in. I like the fact that it's completely dead. If I could string metal chicken wire I would.
You may benefit from a lower powered players frame (wilson six one 95, prestige pro/mp) and then string the poly lower, maybe around 54lbs or so.
 

Wuppy

Professional
You may benefit from a lower powered players frame (wilson six one 95, prestige pro/mp) .
I would love one of those but unfortunately I can't stand the head shape. Too narrow for my taste. If they offered a 95 si racquet with a 100 si (rounder) head shape I'd be all over it.

Too late anyway, I've doubled down on these Surges. I'm going to try a full bed of kevlar and see how that works.
 

Up&comer

Hall of Fame
Too late anyway, I've doubled down on these Surges. I'm going to try a full bed of kevlar and see how that works.
I hope I'm not too late. When PP said Kevlar mains, he meant Kevlar mains and maybe a synthetic cross, poly if you really want it. Full Kevlar would be horrible for your arm.
 
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Wuppy

Professional
I was thinking I'd just try a full bed. I wouldn't use poly because I'd have the same problems I currently do, and it would be interesting to try something with almost no give. <3
 
I was thinking I'd just try a full bed. I wouldn't use poly because I'd have the same problems I currently do, and it would be interesting to try something with almost no give. <3
you seems to like stiff string setup, try ashway kevlar with poly strings, low tension. that is one of the best setup ive played with, WARNING: might induce pain and major spin.
 

wmilas

Rookie
What level is your play? Are you a baseline banger, an all court, a serve and volley? Western grip? Flat or spin?

Have you tried a hybrid? Specifically have you put something like ALU power rough (a moderately stiff poly) in the mains at say 52-55 and gut or a very good stiff multi in the crosses at 62-65?

The reason I mention this is as was stated above you seem to hit balls long at a reasonable poly level. Either you are hitting flat balls with no spin or your technique is off.

If you are hitting flat there is no real good reason to use a poly. Its a waste of time. Get a good multi or gut and string it high like you have been for control.

If you are a western grip and you are still hitting long with a stiff poly at 55 with good crosses at 62 ish then something is wrong with your form.. or you are the incredible hulk :)
 

dParis

Hall of Fame
I really don't want to go back to syn gut. I'm not a string breaker at all but I do love the feel of fresh poly. But then again I don't want to spend more time stringing than playing. Not exactly sure what to do. :confused:
Have you tried Head RIP Control? Low powered and it holds tension very well. Though I wasn't impressed with the spin I was producing with it, plenty of users here have posted that RIPC is one of the most, perhaps the most, 'spinny' full-bed multifibers available.
 

Rjtennis

Hall of Fame
The reason I mention this is as was stated above you seem to hit balls long at a reasonable poly level. Either you are hitting flat balls with no spin...
If you are hitting flat there is no real good reason to use a poly. Its a waste of time.

I would have to second this. You shouldnt be sailing balls even after a bit of tension loss at 62lbs. Do you hit pretty flat?
 

Wuppy

Professional
no, anything but. Lots of spin, high shots. The spin is the only thing that keeps them in. Which is why if I'm not spot-on they'll fly. If I hit them flatter I wouldn't have as much of a problem with lower-strung poly.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
no, anything but. Lots of spin, high shots. The spin is the only thing that keeps them in. Which is why if I'm not spot-on they'll fly. If I hit them flatter I wouldn't have as much of a problem with lower-strung poly.
the amount of spin you generate is relative. i hit w/ a bunch of partners whose skills range from high to low. the partners w/ lesser skills can't handle my topspin and tell me i hit with huge amounts of spin, but the more advanced partners don't have any issues handling my topspin and tell me the amount of spin i generate is average.

your racquet might just be too powerful and lacking in feel which could be why all polys feel the same for you.
 
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