Novak Djokovic and Roger Federer as Qualifiers -- A comparison...

mike danny

Bionic Poster
What it means, is that Federer was given the title of greatness by people who rushed to crown him the GOAT not knowing that he would be eclipsed by younger players.
That hasn't happened yet. Both Nadal and Djokovic are still behind Federer and they are not that young anymore either.
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
You haven't disproved my point. Federer is ahead both in slams and outside the slams compared to Nadal and Djokovic.
Djoko has the most M1000 and Nadal is next before Fed. Nadal lead befornhis recen injury problems then Djoko overtook him.
 
I wasn't trying to make a logical connection they are two statements of fact.

Even with that effort to bail you still fail, because introducing two incoherent statements is just another fail.

Oh, and you should check the dictionary for the meaning of the word "fact".

:cool:
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Djoko has the most M1000 and Nadal is next before Fed. Nadal lead befornhis recen injury problems then Djoko overtook him.
Fed has more WTF and weeks and no.1.

Masters aren't the only thing outside of the slams.

But since you've brought it up, Nadal has nothing on Djokovic other than those 2 extra slams. Federer has a lot of stuff over Nadal other than those 3 extra slams.
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Fed has more WTF and weeks and no.1.

Masters aren't the only thing outside of the slams.

But since you've brought it up, Nadal has nothing on Djokovic other than those 2 extra slams. Federer has a lot of stuff over Nadal other than those 3 extra slams.
Rafa has been injured for most of the last 4 years.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
He didn't play Wimbledon this year. He only played 3 slams in 2013, he only played half of 2012, half of 2014 and in 2015 he was nit match fit.
Match fit is not the same as not healthy.

Even if he had played Wimb this year, he would have lost in the early rounds again.

The only times he was injured were second half of 2014 and 2016 RG. The rest of the time he was healthy.
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Match fit is not the same as not healthy.

Even if he had played Wimb this year, he would have lost in the early rounds again.

The only times he was injured were second half of 2014 and 2016 RG. The rest of the time he was healthy.
He was injured during the 2nd half of 2012 missing the OG.
 
Match fit is not the same as not healthy.

Even if he had played Wimb this year, he would have lost in the early rounds again.

The only times he was injured were second half of 2014 and 2016 RG. The rest of the time he was healthy.

In the calculations of the ************* 2016 didn't happen, when it helps their narrative.

That is why the phrase "the last 4 years" translates in "He only played 3 slams in 2013, he only played half of 2012, half of 2014 and in 2015 he was not match fit."

:D
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
In the calculations of the ************* 2016 didn't happen, when it helps their narrative.

That is why the phrase "the last 4 years" translates in "He only played 3 slams in 2013, he only played half of 2012, half of 2014 and in 2015 he was not match fit."

:D
After so much time out with injury it's not surprising that he is not at his best but give him time. I'm sure he'll be back, tennis needs him at the top. He's had wrist problems in the latter half of 2016.
 
After so much time out with injury it's not surprising that he is not at his best but give him time. I'm sure he'll be back, tennis needs him at the top. He's had wrist problems in the latter half of 2016.

I will give him as much time as he wants off the court.

As for the rest, your excuse train has crushed so badly in the last 3-4 years that even your own guys are questioning whether that is the real reason for his lack of success.

Apart from several absolute hohos everybody else is aware that injuries are not the reason for his bad performances as of late.

You should start practicing the sentence I told you as I see that you are not doing very well with the reality/facts.

:cool:
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
I will give him as much time as he wants off the court.

As for the rest, your excuse train has crushed so badly in the last 3-4 years that even your own guys are questioning whether that is the real reason for his lack of success.

Apart from several absolute hohos everybody else is aware that injuries are not the reason for his bad performances as of late.

You should start practicing the sentence I told you as I see that you are not doing very well with the reality/facts.

:cool:
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
 

Tshooter

G.O.A.T.
Roger Federer :

Federer has twice played a Grand Slam qualifying tournament :…

2) USO 1999/Qualification tournament
Federer : Age 18...
Ranking 104/Seeded 4th in qualifying

Rnd 1) Bt E. Kempes 6/4, 6/4
Rnd 2) Lost to I. Heuberger 6/7, 2/6
Vamos beat Heuberger at the USO — in the main draw — when he was barely 18. VAMOS!
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
Thanks OP very interesting data in your posts.
Numbers (instead fanboys hypotetical mumbo jumbo)
Shows how tough path to greatness Djokovic has had from the day one of his professional career. There weren't WCs for Serbian boy, he had to earn every of his single points the hard way.


Also Rafa, child prodigy:cool:
Exactly why we called Nole the BOAT in 2016 long before he was the GOAT.
The path was very tough from the get go. It was difficult for Nadal as well. Both got forged in fire.
 
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