Novak Djokovic has already qualified for the ATP Finals in Turin
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MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
Boy that was a close one.
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
At the WTF it will be Djokovic vs the lost and next genners
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
Shocking!
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Nadal's never won this event in 17 years on tour. He's not winning it when he's 35.
Fed will get in on COVID points. They’ll change the rules.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
He's already secured the YE-#1 with this, hasn't he?
Tennisfan339
Professional
Do you know Why has Tsitsipas gained 170 points? He lost in R1 in 2019, lost in R1 this year. Yet his total in the official Ranking has now +170. Rublev and Zverev lost in R4 and rightfully gained 170 points.
I don't understand where these points come from...
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Deleted member 629564
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No. I think Medvedev, Nadal, and Tsitsipas are in contention.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
And all three definitely need at least a Slam win to be in the running, right?
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
He gain +10 points.
James P
G.O.A.T.
There are still a ton of points available this year (USO, Cincy, Canada, Indian Wells, Paris, etc). He'll probably lock it up by the USO, though, if he wins.
I actually am unsure what you are looking at. I don't see Tsitsipas gaining 170 points anywhere.
Tennisfan339
Professional
His total yesterday was 7980. New official ranking, he has 8150. Lost in R1 of Wimbledon, exactly like 2019. I dont understand where these 170 points are coming from.
UnforcedTerror
Hall of Fame
What does Fed need to make it?
I think atp changed the rules. Since then, best 18 or 19 results are counted for ranking. Him losing early in wim means other better results comes into count and wim points are not countable since those 10 points are not into 18 best.
Djoker would have to have an early exit innnew York combined with one of them winning. He is just so far eager right now. Not sure even them sinking would overtake
Soul_Evisceration
Hall of Fame
This might be a first WTF without Federer and perhaps Nadal if he does horribly at the US Open.
James P
G.O.A.T.
Hmmm. You are absolutely correct, I see what you're talking about now. What must have happened (I'm just guessing here, I have no idea), is that Tsitsipas had a zero score replaced by a 180 from an ATP 500 SF. I don't know why this happened, but there are situations occasionally where players have a zero score forced on them for missing a tournament as part of the contract for being a top-30 player. I'm just spitballing here, though, because I didn't see the composition of his points pre-Wimbledon.
Djoko is defending 0 points at us open, right? Because of the disqualification? Novak will finish the year as number 1 due to medvedev defending too many points now including 1500 at the YEC. However, there is still a chance of tsitsipas overtaking novak for year end #1 if he has a really strong finish to the year. However, that is unlikely. Everyone else is too far behind.
onyxrose81
Hall of Fame
He still has his 4th round points from 2019.
Tennis_Freak99
Legend
It was a slam bud
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Deleted member 771911
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Well, I did hear....
I think he qualified at the moment in time when he won AO
or did they scrap the rule saying that the GS winner who is within top 20 qualifies by default to the WTF?
I mean, with 2000 points from the GS title, it is guaranteed that the player will be in top 20
game..set..match
Semi-Pro
novak getting a record breaking 7 YE #1 titles will be another dagger in the heart of fedal fans. the gap is opening.
NAS
Hall of Fame
But only two slam winner , if there are four different slam winner and all are between 9-20 rank then top 2 slam winner qualify.
Ofcourse with second slam win at RG Novak eliminated any possibilities
Djokodalerer31
Hall of Fame
Isn't winning one of the slams in the season automatically gains one's place at ATp finals or did i miss something? What about the rule of 1 slam won in men's tour?...
NAS
Hall of Fame
You have to be in top 20 for a slam winner and if there four different slam winner between rank 9 to 20 only top two slam winner get ticket to yec
Djokodalerer31
Hall of Fame
it's not
1. with 2000 points one is guaranteed to be in top 20
2. with 2000 points one is almost guaranteed to be in top 10
3. the player that is able to win a GS, is very unlikely to lose every other match during the season, so you can safely add more points there, which will result in the player being easily in top 8, which is a qualifier to the WTF without exceptions
NAS
Hall of Fame
Actually original rule was only top 8 rank by atp in their yec, itf used to have different yec for players doing well at slam in that year, called their own yec Grandslam cup.
Later atp and itf merged their both yec and atp gave concessions to slam winners if they are out of top8 but ranked between 8-20 , but at max two slam winner can get concession
Djokodalerer31
Hall of Fame
I understand this, but still...
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