Novak Djokovic: "I lost my love for tennis sometime after Paris"

Some years ago I really liked Djokovic but now ..... I don't know what to say, he is an attention seeker and constanly do awkward stupid things offcourt and fake gamership oncourt. Nadal and Murray keep it to themself, Federer is pure class and elegance and Novak is just out of place next to them.
 
I believe this has happened to all great champions,at a certain time in their careers.
Achievements,money,age,injury and as a consequence,motivation wavers.
I have thought this for a while now,that all this talk of Nole surpassing Fed's major record so lightly by people who've never won anything,is frankly disgusting.
It can be seen,winning one Major is hard fought,let alone another 4,5,6 etc.
Next year could be another turning point in his career;leading up to 30 and beyond,can he hang on to no1 spot and stay fit enough to play a full schedule to maintain his current position?Or does he start to take it a little easier and aim for more majors,because I'm not sure he'll be able to do both for much longer.(even with the current field)
 
I actually think it's understandable that he lost motivation after RG, but I would believe him more if he didn't have a history of faking. As it is, this just sounds like another excuse, and loss of motivation is not an excuse for losing. Nothing is once you take the court.

And getting motivation back does not automatically mean he'll dominate ever again. All top players do this though, and I do mean all of them. They'll tell you in their own (not so) convoluted way that they weren't 100% so they don't show weakness and can keep their "aura" for as long as possible, but nothing stops the aging process so eventually it never really matters that they weren't 100% when they lost this match or that one.

And right now I'd say Djokovic is at the stage (age and mileage wise) where he'll lose the odd match at a GS to a guy like Querrey or he'll be more prone to small injuries that affect his ability to play his absolute best, and nothing really stops that. The only thing he can do is try to prevent it for as long as possible and I'm sure he'll do everything in his power to do just that, including citing everything from his toenail to his shoulder to a lack of motivation as an excuse.
 
AceSalvo said:
oh Gluten, Oh wrist, Oh Shoulder, Oh Extra Marital Affairs, Oh Toe, Oh Lack of Interest.. ouch! More to come.

Sounds like this takes the cake tough.
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LOL :) I've seen everyone from Federer, Nadal down to Djokovic provide excuses for losses. Nothing new there but Djokovic really needs to come up with some credible ones :)

Extra-marital affairs and Toes are really silly excuses to come up with. I wonder what kind of advice his team is giving him.
 
csmoove899 said:
Maybe he is fabricating a coverup for an upcoming silent ban.
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Funny. I had been saying since the AO that he would be allowed to really compete for the French Open then would have a string of mysterious issues/injuries that would take him out. Call it what you will.
 
Kalin said:
I don't think Novak is making excuses whatsoever.

Yes, the last year does read like a Bollywood drama. He had a cramped schedule and had to toe around some tough draws. Some unpopular choices had to be made with regards to his schedule, pushing some tournaments down the list. He has a new member of the family and his wife is probably already tired and low on energy. At least his baby will never be in danger of not getting enough love by anybody.

I see no excuses in any of this, do you? Novak will be fine; he just needs some rest and a nice winter holiday.
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hipolymer said:
As always, the greatest enemy for Djoker's entire career has been his own mentality. His insecurity and desire to be loved by the audience, the period from 2008-2010 where he wanted to redefine his game even though it was suiting him perfectly well, the period from 2012-2014 where he had trouble in the big moments, and his mental block in Roland Garros. I'm afraid this may be the final nail in his coffin as a serious slam contender. Once you lose the will, all hope is lost in a sport like tennis. It's not like other sports where your team can motivate you through hard times.
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You sound as though you speak from experience. Was this the case for your career as a tennis player?
 
Bukmeikara said:
Nadal and Murray keep it to themself, Federer is pure class and elegance and Novak is just out of place next to them.
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This must be the funniest post of all time, because literally all the things you said are the opposite of what is true.

Did Nadal not talk about how his parents' divorce affected his play for nearly an entire year?

Does Murray not swear like a sailor during every important match, and constantly berate his box, and then afterwards acts like nothing happened?

As for Federer...whoo-whee


(nice tshirt Feddy)

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Is this dude serious? Class and elegance? More like entitlement, arrogance, and conceit.
 
Bukmeikara said:
Some years ago I really liked Djokovic but now ..... I don't know what to say, he is an attention seeker and constanly do awkward stupid things offcourt and fake gamership oncourt. Nadal and Murray keep it to themself, Federer is pure class and arrogance and Novak is just out of place next to them.
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Fixed your typo.
 
mbm0912 said:
You sound as though you speak from experience. Was this the case for your career as a tennis player?
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No, but I do have the experience of being a tennis fan since the 1971 WCT finals, and having watched eras rise and fall, and read many tennis biographies. Look at what happened to Borg and McEnroe, who retired in their primes. Agassi had trouble maintaining motivation due to his personal problems as well. Connors was different; he used his personal life as motivational fuel, and tennis as a mechanism to release his anger, which is the right way of going about things.

Imagine if Djoker had the mentality of a Connors: every time the crowd rooted against him he'd go on to be even better than before.
 
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Djokodal Fan said:
Taken from MTF, but I thought it was worth posting it here. I'm rather puzzled as to how someone like Djokovic can lose motivation. All he Had to do was to look at His peers like the Great Fed / Nadal and keep himself motivated. I'm not blaming him give life long goal RG was, but I'm little disappointed as a fan
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I feel he lost the love before the FO. He is a great guy a true warrior and competitor and I honestly belive that while he lost to peak Nadal Alot more than he beat him at the majors nonetheless he loved the challenge, relished it in fact. It drove him on. As did his rivalry with the genius that is federer.

It can't be ignored though that Nadal and federer both faded, federer slowly, Nadal like falling off a cliff. Djokovic is too great a player and person to not have noticed that is two great rivals were no longer challengers to him. For guys in an individual sport those rivalries are what makes them get up at 5 am to train hard. When borg went, mcenroe lost his love for the game. Many great boxers have cited their great rival going meant they lost something too.

The only two spurrs for djokovic were the FO and the olympics. I said at the time and wilander disgracefully said it live on air that winning the FO may not feel as big a deal due to the fAct NAdal was all but finished. Federer never beat Nadal at the FO and many point to that fAct. Fdderer though is all about records. Djokovic I feel is different . It's not just winning and gettig records, but he loves the fight and taking on the best at their best. With his two main great rivals finished for ever as major contenders , without doubt part of what inspired djokovic has also gone.

Wth all due respect to murray, and im a huge murray fan, put simply djokovic knows that he is better than murray so that rivalry will never get the juices going the same way.

It's the same im any job. Once we find things aren't a challenge the motivation wanes. And unless u hated what you do from day one, the passion for the Job wanes as well.

I think its unfair for djokovic fans to feel let down by his comments. He is being honest and open and I can totally get what he is saying. He is one of the five greatest players of all time in open era and therefore there is not much else left to do that will inspire him to go through the pain and sacrifice he has gone through every day for over a decade
 
punterlad said:
The only two spurrs for djokovic were the FO and the olympics. I said at the time and wilander disgracefully said it live on air that winning the FO may not feel as big a deal due to the fAct NAdal was all but finished. Federer never beat Nadal at the FO and many point to that fAct. Fdderer though is all about records. Djokovic I feel is different . It's not just winning and gettig records, but he loves the fight and taking on the best at their best. With his two main great rivals finished for ever as major contenders , without doubt part of what inspired djokovic has also gone.
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Agree with this. Djokovic gets extra joy from beating Federer and Nadal because of their place in the history of the game. I'm not at all surprised by Djokovic's loss of motivation. Also over the past few years he has become a very cerebral person, all into how things "feel", #spread the love, blah, blah, blah, meditation, etc. So he needs his mind right as well as his body in order to compete at his best
 
hipolymer said:
This must be the funniest post of all time, because literally all the things you said are the opposite of what is true.

Did Nadal not talk about how his parents' divorce affected his play for nearly an entire year?

Does Murray not swear like a sailor during every important match, and constantly berate his box, and then afterwards acts like nothing happened?

As for Federer...whoo-whee


(nice tshirt Feddy)

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Is this dude serious? Class and elegance? More like entitlement, arrogance, and conceit.
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woah woah, didn't you say you were a federer fan in that pathetic excuse of for a thread you made earlier?
 
He has been doing the same thing for the past 10 years. I mean exactly the same thing, cant blame him for getting bored, we did after 2 years
 
With the slam record in striking distance, I don't know how you lose love or motivation really. I could see that happening after you break the record but not when you're so close. Jeesh
 
Noelan said:
OP mentioned fedal I replied to him:rolleyes: I'm actually ok with him being different and having his own path in tennis history, with all of his ups and downs.

Yeah we know you would kill him if you can.
Even fellow fedfan Gary Duane tried to calm you down in your hatred rant many times before. According to you he always deserves" some" bashing , why? Because he dared to play tennis at such high level and and began to threaten some of the records of your heroes.
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I don't care how many of Federer's records Djokovic's threatens. Nadal was a lot closer to threatening Federer's slam record and I have always like Nadal. I don't care about that at all. I'm simply not a fan of Djokovic. I don't like his tennis style and I don't like his character. As a crazed Djokovic fan, you can't accept that some people may not like his tennis or his desperate "please like me" personality.

You always have to bring up Fedal even when their names aren't mentioned in a thread. You have a real inferiority complex like your favorite player.

As for Gary Duane, he's a real Djokovic lover, NOT. He recently posted that he can't wait for the Djokovic era to be over! :rolleyes:
 
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ABCD said:
I am sure that you are in a better position than him to know whether he loses love for the sport or not. More interesting than your post is that a (seemingly) clever man like Gary actually liked it.
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I know when players are making excuses and so far Djokovic has come up with about six of them after his big Wimbledon, Olympic and USO losses. If you find his excuses believable and fascinating that doesn't say much about you and your "intelligence."
 
cc0509 said:
I don't care how many of Federer's records Djokovic's threatens. Nadal was a lot closer to threatening Federer's slam record and I have always like Nadal. I don't care about that at all. I'm simply not a fan of Djokovic. I don't like his tennis style and I don't like his character. As a crazed Djokovic fan, you can't accept that some people may not like his tennis or his desperate "please like me" personality.
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Oh please, nobody needs your explanation you said it countless of times , everyone knows (from your posts over the years)hate is your driving force.
You're attacked some of the best posters at this forum just because they like Djokovic a bit more than the rest of top guys.
Uh oh you're fan of both Federer and Nadal, no way:eek:
 
Steve0904 said:
I would believe him more if he didn't have a history of faking. As it is, this just sounds like another excuse, and loss of motivation is not an excuse for losing. Nothing is once you take the court.


The only thing he can do is try to prevent it for as long as possible and I'm sure he'll do everything in his power to do just that, including citing everything from his toenail to his shoulder to a lack of motivation as an excuse.
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+1. The reality is he's lost some invincibility(which was coming) and so far we've heard about six reasons (excuses) why he lost Wimbledon up to the USO.
 
90's Clay said:
With the slam record in striking distance, I don't know how you lose love or motivation really. I could see that happening after you break the record but not when you're so close. Jeesh
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Was never really in striking distance. He blew too many opportunities, and then it became too late. Nadal, on the other hand. A pity for him that he couldn't quite make it... falling, falling... how low can he go?
 
Noelan said:
Oh please, nobody needs your explanation you said it countless of times , everyone knows (from your posts over the years)hate is your driving force.
You're attacked some of the best posters at this forum just because they like Djokovic a bit more than the rest of top guys.
Uh oh you're fan of both Federer and Nadal, no way:eek:
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Best posters in your Djoko fiend world?

Again, you bring up FEDAL. Those players are your obsession. As I said, you have an inferiority complex about them just like your favorite player. Remember, Djokovic is chasing their slam records, not the other way around.
 
cc0509 said:
Best posters in your Djoko fiend world?

Again, you bring up FEDAL. Those players are your obsession. As I said, you have an inferiority complex about them just like your favorite player. Remember, Djokovic is chasing their slam records, not the other way around.
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Fiend:confused:
Honestly I feel sorry for you.
 
hipolymer said:
This must be the funniest post of all time, because literally all the things you said are the opposite of what is true.

Did Nadal not talk about how his parents' divorce affected his play for nearly an entire year?

Does Murray not swear like a sailor during every important match, and constantly berate his box, and then afterwards acts like nothing happened?

As for Federer...whoo-whee


(nice tshirt Feddy)

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federer_gold_062309.jpg

Is this dude serious? Class and elegance? More like entitlement, arrogance, and conceit.
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Your best mockery avatar is a grinning Federer with a big forehead? You've put in the time to compile your montage of Fed hate. Can't you step your av up to that level?
 
Maestroesque said:
woah woah, didn't you say you were a federer fan in that pathetic excuse of for a thread you made earlier?
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Here's a very complicated thought for you: I'm a great fan of his game; I couldn't be more averse to his attitude and demeanor.

Very complicated I know.
 
Noelan said:
Fiend:confused:
Honestly I feel sorry for you.
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Yes "fiends" is a good word to describe some of the over the top adulation for some of the Djokovic fans infesting this board for the past two years. When grown men talk about "earth's mightiest warrior" in every post for example, it's pretty scary.

I admit I'm not a Djokovic fan even though I do respect his accomplishments, that's not a secret. You on the other hand, can't admit your obsessive hatred for Fedal and your obvious inferiority complex when it comes to them. Again, he's chasing their slam records, not the other way around. He's the one looking for constant love and admiration from the crowds and media, not Fedal.
 
hipolymer said:
Actually Djokovic only needs 5 more slams and two more finals (which would be the tiebreaker between Fed and Nole)
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Again, "only" five slams? That's the whole career of many players and just under half of Djokovic's current slam total. He's very likely not getting there at almost 30 years of age.
 
cc0509 said:
Again, "only" five slams? That's the whole career of many players and just under half of Djokovic's current slam total. He's very likely not getting there at almost 30 years of age.
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When Djokovic is winning them at a ridiculous clip, I suppose all the Djoker fan boys think 5 more is like a drop in the bucket. Fed slowed down. Rafa slowed down. Djokovic will slow down, if he isn't already showing signs of that with the last 3 months or so.

#fathertimeisundefeated
 
hipolymer said:
Here's a very complicated thought for you: I'm a great fan of his game; I couldn't be more averse to his attitude and demeanor.

Very complicated I know.
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You said you were a former MTF poster. Why aren't you still posting on MTF and why have you taken up residence here? Were you banned from MTF?
 
cc0509 said:
Yes "fiends" is a good word to describe some of the over the top adulation for some of the Djokovic fans infesting this board for the past two years. When grown men talk about "earth's mightiest warrior" in every post for example, it's pretty scary.

I admit I'm not a Djokovic fan even though I do respect his accomplishments, that's not a secret. You on the other hand, can't admit your obsessive hatred for Fedal and your obvious inferiority complex when it comes to them. Again, he's chasing their slam records, not the other way around. He's the one looking for constant love and admiration from the crowds and media, not Fedal.
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Light hearted given nick offended many of you I see.:oops:


The other part of your post.. blah, blah. Repetitive drivel...
 
Big_Dangerous said:
When Djokovic is winning them at a ridiculous clip, I suppose all the Djoker fan boys think 5 more is like a drop in the bucket. Fed slowed down. Rafa slowed down. Djokovic will slow down, if he isn't already showing signs of that with the last 3 months or so.

#fathertimeisundefeated
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What is that dude's secret? Immortal, never loses... does he even take bathroom breaks?
 
FedFosterWallace said:
What is that dude's secret? Immortal, never loses... does he even take bathroom breaks?
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According to Nole fans, he was never supposed to get injured because of his high quality "diet regimen", "yoga", "mind control" ,yada yada.. and was on cruise control for another couple of years when he would break Fed's slam record.

Getting to 29 is basically like getting close to a time bomb. Things just explode for no reason and it aint pretty.
 
AceSalvo said:
According to Nole fans, he was never supposed to get injured because of his high quality "diet regimen", "yoga", "mind control" ,yada yada.. and was on cruise control for another couple of years when he would break Fed's slam record.

Getting to 29 is basically like getting close to a time bomb. Things just explode for no reason and it aint pretty.
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I was actually wondering about how Father Time stays so fit after all these years. But yeah, I've seen quite a bit of what you're talking about.

Bold, bold prediction coming up here: Many a thread bump to be expected. ;)
 
cc0509 said:
Again, "only" five slams? That's the whole career of many players and just under half of Djokovic's current slam total. He's very likely not getting there at almost 30 years of age.
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Agassi played 1144 matches until his retirement, but let's subtract the last 19 of his career so we only include his slam-winning potential, up until his US Open 2005 loss to Federer;

Here's Djokovic's number of matches played during the last few years:

2012: 87
2013: 83
2014: 69
2015: 88
2016: 62

Djokovic has so far played 888 matches. Let's say he ends with slightly over 900 by the end of the year. That leaves around 225 matches left to match Agassi slam-winning form; but let's say Djokovic goes on to play for a couple more years longer than Agassi, which is likely as he never had the horrific back problems that plagued Agassi. It all depends on his motivation though.

Let's strike a mean of 70 matches per year for the next 5 years, seeing as he's going to play less and less every year. That's 5 years of slam-winning potential for the Djoker, meaning that out of 20 slams he has to win 5. That's not out of the realm of possibility.
 
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