Novak Djokovic: "I lost my love for tennis sometime after Paris"

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
That's a pretty lame attitude.
The guy didnt achieve all that is possible.
He had a chance to get to 17 and 18 if he was still focused and in good shape.
Thats a big goal still waiting to be reached.

But with this vibe he shouldnt even bother.
Way to go, champ :p
 

vex

Legend
Taken from MTF, but I thought it was worth posting it here. I'm rather puzzled as to how someone like Djokovic can lose motivation. All he Had to do was to look at His peers like the Great Fed / Nadal and keep himself motivated. I'm not blaming him give life long goal RG was, but I'm little disappointed as a fan
Nadal looked like he was ready to retire and Djoker took for granted that he could just phone in Wimby and still win - cause why not? He'd won 4 straight. He could catch Fed whenever he wanted. By the time DJoker was losing USO'16 and AO'17 he realized too late that u can't phone anything in. Add in the Injury and you have 2 lost years.
 

Vanilla Slice

Professional
Nadal looked like he was ready to retire and Djoker took for granted that he could just phone in Wimby and still win - cause why not? He'd won 4 straight. He could catch Fed whenever he wanted. By the time DJoker was losing USO'16 and AO'17 he realized too late that u can't phone anything in. Add in the Injury and you have 2 lost years.

I think we forget that these players are human and that not all of the greats have the same mentalities. Djokovic’s loss of motivation wasn’t due to arrogance in that he was overconfident he could take Feds 17 (though some of his fans were).

Djokovic obviously completed his largest career goal by winning RG16 and holding all four slams. Just because Sampras/Nadal/Fed have more slams doesn’t equate to Djokovic having new fuel to forge onward. Combine this with the fragility that surrounded his personal life and his young child (and that he doesn’t really need to play to make a living anymore) and it’s understandable how a human could lose his motivation. Not everyone is like Nadal/Fed, and that’s not necessarily a bad thing. Djokovic reminds us all that tennis players are fallible.
 
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RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
I think we forget that these players are human and that not all of the greats have the same mentalities. Djokovic’s loss of motivation wasn’t due to arrogance in that he was overconfident he could take Feds 17 (though some of his fans were).

Djokovic obviously completed his largest career goal by winning RG16 and holding all four slams. Just because Sampras/Nadal/Fed have more slams doesn’t equate to Djokovic having new fuel to forge onward. Combine this with the fragility that surrounded his personal life and his young child (and that he doesn’t really need to play to make a living anymore) and it’s understandable how a human could lose his motivation. Not everyone is like Nadal/Fed, and that’s not necessarily a bad thing. Djokovic reminds us all that tennis players are fallible.

At the same time the point is that don't count anyone off after a bad period. It is very common in here that people just think short term and not in the long run that a player actually can come back again and make some results.
 
I'm rather puzzled as to how someone like Djokovic can lose motivation.

This might be the most clueless comment ever posted on TTW.
You don't understand how someone can lose motivation and interest?

Try this:
1) Pick something you love.
2) Do it for 8 hours a day.
3) Do it for the next 25 years, EVERY. GOD. DAMNED. DAY. Nonstop, and block out all other things in life.
Become a machine who only knows ONE thing in life. TWENTY FIVE ****ING YEARS STRAIGHT. EVERY. GOD. DAMNED. DAY. Nonstop,

Let us know how much you love this thing after 25 years of nonstop obsession.
 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
This might be the most clueless comment ever posted on TTW.
You don't understand how someone can lose motivation and interest?
Try this:
1) Pick something you love.
2) Do it for 8 hours a day.
3) Do it for the next 25 years, EVERY. GOD. DAMNED. DAY. Nonstop, and block out all other things in life.
Become a machine who only knows ONE thing in life. TWENTY FIVE ****ING YEARS STRAIGHT. EVERY. GOD. DAMNED. DAY. Nonstop,
Let us know how much you love this thing after 25 years of nonstop obsession.
So all pro players past their thirties are not human?
 
Exactly.
Most rec guys play 2 hours a week, never practice, and don't understand why he's burnt out.
Yet, these same guys all ***** about their day job.

Same with the clueless Tomic hate. Fools.
 
So all pro players past their thirties are not human?

They have serious developmental issues.
For every hour they have spent hitting a silly yellow ball,
that is an hour they have NOT spent learning some other basic life skill.

What is the common theme ALL burnt out and early retired players have?
 
TTPS: "I lost my love for tennis sometime after playing 1 hour of tennis for 4 days a week for an entire 9 months."
I mean that's a grand total of 144 hours. That's like 3 or 4 weeks of FullTime work. I'm BURNT OUT.
 

reaper

Legend
This might be the most clueless comment ever posted on TTW.
You don't understand how someone can lose motivation and interest?

Try this:
1) Pick something you love.
2) Do it for 8 hours a day.
3) Do it for the next 25 years, EVERY. GOD. DAMNED. DAY. Nonstop, and block out all other things in life.
Become a machine who only knows ONE thing in life. TWENTY FIVE ****ING YEARS STRAIGHT. EVERY. GOD. DAMNED. DAY. Nonstop,

Let us know how much you love this thing after 25 years of nonstop obsession.

Do any pros really train 8 hours a day every day? Doesn't seem the right way to prepare.
 

dmt

Hall of Fame
Do any pros really train 8 hours a day every day? Doesn't seem the right way to prepare.
even 6 hours a day is a lot. Plus, after all that training, its exhausting to do anything else. I can't imagine how mentally draining it is. To be fair, they get compensated extremely well in a financial sense, and of course they have adoring fans, but it must get exhausting.

That's why Federer is such a freak. I can see the guy playing pro tennis till he is a 100 years old if his body didn't age.

I hope Djokovic has a few slams left in him, but if he is mentally done, that's understandable. I would be done too at this stage. Federer and Nadal are the exceptions, not the norm.
 

reaper

Legend
even 6 hours a day is a lot. Plus, after all that training, its exhausting to do anything else. I can't imagine how mentally draining it is. To be fair, they get compensated extremely well in a financial sense, and of course they have adoring fans, but it must get exhausting.

That's why Federer is such a freak. I can see the guy playing pro tennis till he is a 100 years old if his body didn't age.

I hope Djokovic has a few slams left in him, but if he is mentally done, that's understandable. I would be done too at this stage. Federer and Nadal are the exceptions, not the norm.

Yes 6 hours a day is a lot. How many players train 6 hours per day every day? (as per the previous post which claimed they train 8 hours every day). A lot of players probably train 6 hours per day every day, for about 2 months of the year. That would be in December for one month, with a few weeks sporadically during the year when they have breaks in their schedule. Anyone who trains anything like 6 hours per day during a tournament needs their head read. They'd have no energy for match play.
 

dmt

Hall of Fame
Yes 6 hours a day is a lot. How many players train 6 hours per day every day? (as per the previous post which claimed they train 8 hours every day). A lot of players probably train 6 hours per day every day, for about 2 months of the year. That would be in December for one month, with a few weeks sporadically during the year when they have breaks in their schedule. Anyone who trains anything like 6 hours per day during a tournament needs their head read. They'd have no energy for match play.
i am not sure. I think most players train 6 hours or so outside of when they are competing in tournaments. Plus, all that travelling must take a toll as well.
 

reaper

Legend
i am not sure. I think most players train 6 hours or so outside of when they are competing in tournaments. Plus, all that travelling must take a toll as well.

There would be days when they train 6 hours. I doubt very much they do it every day. Let's say you're not playing one week and have a match the following Monday. Would you really train 6 hours on the Saturday or Sunday? There might be a day or two early in the week off when you train 6 hours. There's no way you'd be in peak condition to play if you did it every day of your week off.
 

Nadalgaenger

G.O.A.T.
I don’t get the hate here at all.

It’s out of control. Basically anyone not named Fedr is completely trashed on the forum.

Djokovic has an honest confession about motivational problems that we all saw—problems that I blame Pepe Imaz for by the way.

Anyway, it’s normal for intelligent people like Novak to question their goals in life after they reach 30. No matter what, he’s one of the top 5 players of all time (I’d rank him at 4 currently, ahead of Sampras and Borg but behind Fed, Nadal, and Laver).
 
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Deleted member 688153

Guest
It wouldn't be boring, speak for yourself.
Nah. If Fed had won everything earlier on he'd have retired after a few short years and then we'd have no Federer :(

Things have worked out about as well as they could have just as it is.
 

Tennisanity

Legend
2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 is post-prime Federer?

Huh? Are you insane? post-2007 is not peak Fed anymore. 2008 is one of Fed's worst years in his careers. It's like say Nadal was in top form when he lost to Djoko at FO in 2015. from 04-07 Fed had a winning record against Nadal off clay. Yeah I know you'll be dumb enough to talk about why not consider clay, uh, we already went over that homey. Go back and memorize.
 

Pagoo

G.O.A.T.
I don’t get the hate here at all.

It’s out of control. Basically anyone not named Fedr is completely trashed on the forum.

Djokovic has an honest confession about motivational problems that we all saw—problems that I blame Pepe Imaz for by the way.

Anyway, it’s normal for intelligent people like Novak to question their goals in life after they reach 30. No matter what, he’s one of the top 5 players of all time (I’d rank him at 4 currently, ahead of Sampras and Borg but behind Fed, Nadal, and Laver).

Is this a case of seeing only what you want to see, or are you trolling?:rolleyes:
 

ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
As always, the greatest enemy for Djoker's entire career has been his own mentality. His insecurity and desire to be loved by the audience, the period from 2008-2010 where he wanted to redefine his game even though it was suiting him perfectly well, the period from 2012-2014 where he had trouble in the big moments, and his mental block in Roland Garros. I'm afraid this may be the final nail in his coffin as a serious slam contender. Once you lose the will, all hope is lost in a sport like tennis. It's not like other sports where your team can motivate you through hard times.

He tried to recreate himself and market like Nadal and Fed, but couldn't get the same respect and love they had, which even in his few solid years weighed heavy on his mind. He will always be in their shadow and it really bugs him.
 
Huh? Are you insane? post-2007 is not peak Fed anymore. 2008 is one of Fed's worst years in his careers. It's like say Nadal was in top form when he lost to Djoko at FO in 2015. from 04-07 Fed had a winning record against Nadal off clay. Yeah I know you'll be dumb enough to talk about why not consider clay, uh, we already went over that homey. Go back and memorize.

Fed was sick in 2008 not 'past his prime' - between 2003 and 2010 Fed was aged 21 to 29 years of age. Are you saying Fed was past his prime in 2008 when he was 27? lol
 

Tennisanity

Legend
Fed was sick in 2008 not 'past his prime' - between 2003 and 2010 Fed was aged 21 to 29 years of age. Are you saying Fed was past his prime in 2008 when he was 27? lol

In 2008 Fed was past his peak. If he hadn't gotten mono that year, no way Nadal was winning Wimbledon. So many of Nadal's slams came because Fed was no longer peak. That's what happens when you have another great player (not in Fed's league, but still great) 5 years younger than you nipping at your heels.
 

Nadalgaenger

G.O.A.T.
In 2008 Fed was past his peak. If he hadn't gotten mono that year, no way Nadal was winning Wimbledon. So many of Nadal's slams came because Fed was no longer peak. That's what happens when you have another great player (not in Fed's league, but still great) 5 years younger than you nipping at your heels.
Did you watch the 2007 final? Nadal had decent chances in that match. Two games in the fifth in which he had chances to get up a break.

Nadal deserved the 2008 win. I say that as a Fed fan.
 

Tennisanity

Legend
Did you watch the 2007 final? Nadal had decent chances in that match. Two games in the fifth in which he had chances to get up a break.

Nadal deserved the 2008 win. I say that as a Fed fan.

Yes I watched Nadal lose in 2007. 2007 was also a year Fed lost twice to Canas. It was not the same Fed as 2006, but he still peak in 2007. Nadal won in 2008 because of darkness - yes darkness affects both, but it's like saying if there was a shot clock in place all of a sudden, it would affect both players, but who would it affect more? Fed or the cheater? Also in 2008, Fed lost tons of practice blocks due to the mono earlier in the year. If you want to see what happens when there is no proper preparation for a slam, look no further than USO17 for Fed. The Montreal injury destroyed his preparation for it, and we saw how he almost went out to Tiafoe.
 
In 2008 Fed was past his peak. If he hadn't gotten mono that year, no way Nadal was winning Wimbledon. So many of Nadal's slams came because Fed was no longer peak. That's what happens when you have another great player (not in Fed's league, but still great) 5 years younger than you nipping at your heels.

Ok - a 27 year old past his peak, your argument has lost all credibility
 

Tennisanity

Legend
Ok - a 27 year old past his peak, your argument has lost all credibility

Why? Nadal has selective peaks doesn't he? Like he wasn't quite peak on HC in 2008 because he happened to lose in the semis that year. Or he wasn't peak in 2006 on grass after having won 2 slams already AND having reached the Wimbledon final, LOL. You're either peak or you're not you can't just wait till you win on those surfaces to declare peakdom. Sorry, but the last thing a Nadal fan should be doing is judging someone else's credibility.
 

Your Hero

Professional
Feels like a good time to bump this puppy. People always appreciate a good reason
to get their knickers in a twist.
 
Why? Nadal has selective peaks doesn't he? Like he wasn't quite peak on HC in 2008 because he happened to lose in the semis that year. Or he wasn't peak in 2006 on grass after having won 2 slams already AND having reached the Wimbledon final, LOL. You're either peak or you're not you can't just wait till you win on those surfaces to declare peakdom. Sorry, but the last thing a Nadal fan should be doing is judging someone else's credibility.

I've never claimed that Nadal has selective peaks. Hou must be refering to another poster.
 
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