Novak Djokovic - My thoughts on his current situation

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OK, sorry about the delay for this, I am not around due to pre-contest training and my bodybuilding competitions, and I will most likely be leaving this site by the end of the year once I finish up, but you wanted my thoughts about Djokovic and I will honor your request. Imagine...Your whole life growing up, you work towards one goal, and that is being the best tennis player in the world, being number one and winning Wimbledon – That was what the world was like when Djokovic started first watching tennis, the first ever event he watched while his country was going through the most difficult time in its history, but as he watched his hero Sampras triumph at Wimbledon again and again, everything was changing. Sampras was changing tennis, it was becoming more than just about winning Wimbledon and becoming number one, it was becoming about being the GOAT. Pete had a different mindset to the ones that can before him, he wanted to achieve greatness in a truly definitive way, compiling record after record, he was the one that started to deepen the emphasis on slams in becoming the GOAT, the year end number ones, the weeks at number one, the domination of Wimbledon. Sampras was changing the goal posts and redefining what greatness meant. As Djokovic matured, watching his idol hold all the big records, he was leaving the war that plagued his childhood behind, but little did he know at the time that he was about to step straight into the middle of an even bigger war, one that would be deeply entwined in his adult life and long remembered after he is gone.

A war between two titans of the game that had been waging already for several years, and nothing like it had been seen before. Roger and Rafa were deeply entangled in their own personal war for greatness, with the silhouette of Pete in the background. For Novak, he had two choices, the first was to step aside and allow these two legends to make history, or he refuses to bow down and wants to become the legend he always dreamed of when he was child...For him the choice was obvious. Roger at that point was redefining tennis, he knew that if he was to ascend to the throne that everyone was expecting him to, and surpass Pete, he had to do the one thing that Pete couldn’t do, and that is win Roland Garros. To take him to the pinnacle, he needed a more complete resume that even the great Sampras before him, and it took immense mental fortitude, drive, willpower, determination for Roger to set and then pursue year after year such ambitious goals for himself...however we all know that Rafa was growing into the Clay GOAT and thwarting Roger, and not only thwarting him, but in the process building up his own legacy. Roger and Rafa was two equal, and opposing forces that powerfully clashed with ferocity on the court, and in the record books. All surface domination, winning all slams, stock piling masters events – they were adding even more to the GOAT requirements than even Pete did. Their compelling rivalry, and ability to push each to shockingly insane levels left everyone else in aftermath.

Novak pretty began his career surrounded by these two supernovas, a completely unprecedented situation. He fought them, got beaten, came back stronger, got beaten again, and came back stronger again. The more they showed their superior play, the more lessons he learnt, it was baptism by fire, he was being moulded by Roger and Rafa. They began to create the Novak that we now know, and as he got better, as he started to increase his level, as he got stronger, he forged with them two of the greatest rivalries ever seen in the history of the game – He had no choice, Fedal had taken the landscape that Pete had put together, and turned it upside down. Now Novak knew that he needed everything they had, the Slam record, weeks at number one, the career slam, the WTFs, the year ends, the masters titles, the all surface domination. Anything less would be seen as a failure, the stakes had become so high, the expectations so grand. He kicked, scratched and clawed his way up the mountain, but those scars that Roger and Rafa gave him in battle were slowly building up. Roland Garros...If ever he wanted to have his name to be said in the same breath as theirs, he couldn’t have a gap that big in his resume, even if he put together outstanding records everywhere. It drove him on, losing those epics to Roger, Rafa and Stan in Paris, but everything was building up inside, almost like a coiled spring just waiting to be released. Living every minute of your professional life chasing two of the greatest players to have ever played the game, while also thinking about the legacies of Pete, and even Laver, it has to take a toll...it just has to. The mental, emotional, and physical burden you have to go through day in and day out, week after week, month after month, year after year, and have the heart of a lion to keep taking the beatings, the setbacks, the heartbreaks, and then to finally hold that ever elusive RG title. To capture that unicorn, after looking in the mirror, looking into your eyes and telling yourself that you are good enough even when there are the doubters and naysayers that say or hope you never will. RG released everything out of his system in a powerful avalanche of relief.

RG had become like a double edged sword, because in his relentless pursuit to capture the title, Novak created without a doubt the greatest 18 months ever in the history of the game, Roger and Rafa had set the standards of what he must need to do, if he ever dared to walk amongst them. The all court surface domination, the masters titles haul, the WTF haul, slams on all surfaces...you simply were not allowed a weak point. To stand amongst them, almost destroyed Novak. I don’t think he ever truly recovered since RG, that spring uncoiled within and everything was released. So you ask me why Novak is the way he is now, it is because you can only fight so hard and so passionately for so long, it is in this flaw that legends likes Roger, Rafa and Novak truly leave their legacy behind, because it is in this you see their human side, and understand it was a human who put together a superhuman effort.

If there was not a Roger and a Rafa, there would never have been a Novak
 
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@joekapa

OK, sorry about the delay for this, I am not around due to pre-contest training and my bodybuilding competitions, and I will most likely be leaving this site by the end of the year once I finish up, but you wanted my thoughts about Djokovic and I will honor your request. Imagine...Your whole life growing up, you work towards one goal, and that is being the best tennis player in the world, being number one and winning Wimbledon – That was what the world was like when Djokovic started first watching tennis, the first ever event he watched while his country was going through the most difficult time in its history, but as he watched his hero Sampras triumph at Wimbledon again and again, everything was changing. Sampras was changing tennis, it was becoming more than just about winning Wimbledon and becoming number one, it was becoming about being the GOAT. Pete had a different mindset to the ones that can before him, he wanted to achieve greatness in a truly definitive way, compiling record after record, he was the one that started to deepen the emphasis on slams in becoming the GOAT, the year end number ones, the weeks at number one, the domination of Wimbledon. Sampras was changing the goal posts and redefining what greatness meant. As Djokovic matured, watching his idol hold all the big records, he was leaving the war that plagued his childhood behind, but little did he know at the time that he was about to step straight into the middle of an even bigger war, one that would be deeply entwined in his adult life and long remembered after he is gone.

A war between two titans of the game that had been waging already for several years, and nothing like it had been seen before. Roger and Rafa were deeply entangled in their own personal war for greatness, with the silhouette of Pete in the background. For Novak, he had two choices, the first was to step aside and allow these two legends to make history, or he refuses to bow down and wants to become the legend he always dreamed of when he was child...For him the choice was obvious. Roger at that point was redefining tennis, he knew that if he was to ascend to the throne that everyone was expecting him to, and surpass Pete, he had to do the one thing that Pete couldn’t do, and that is win Roland Garros. To take him to the pinnacle, he needed a more complete resume that even the great Sampras before him, and it took immense mental fortitude, drive, willpower, determination for Roger to set and then pursue year after year such ambitious goals for himself...however we all know that Rafa was growing into the Clay GOAT and thwarting Roger, and not only thwarting him, but in the process building up his own legacy. Roger and Rafa was two equal, and opposing forces that powerfully clashed with ferocity on the court, and in the record books. All surface domination, winning all slams, stock piling masters events – they were adding even more to the GOAT requirements than even Pete did. Their compelling rivalry, and ability to push each to shockingly insane levels left everyone else in aftermath.

Novak pretty began his career surrounded by these two supernovas, a completely unprecedented situation. He fought them, got beaten, came back stronger, got beaten again, and came back stronger again. The more they showed their superior play, the more lessons he learnt, it was baptism by fire, he was being moulded by Roger and Rafa. They began to create the Novak that we now know, and as he got better, as he started to increase his level, as he got stronger, he forged with them two of the greatest rivalries ever seen in the history of the game – He had no choice, Fedal had taken the landscape that Pete had put together, and turned it upside down. Now Novak knew that he needed everything they had, the Slam record, weeks at number one, the career slam, the WTFs, the year ends, the masters titles, the all surface domination. Anything less would be seen as a failure, the stakes had become so high, the expectations so grand. He kicked, scratched and clawed his way up the mountain, but those scars that Roger and Rafa gave him in battle were slowly building up. Roland Garros...If ever he wanted to have his name to be said in the same breath as theirs, he couldn’t have a gap that big in his resume, even if he put together outstanding records everywhere. It drove him on, losing those epics to Roger, Rafa and Stan in Paris, but everything was building up inside, almost like a coiled spring just waiting to be released. Living every minute of your professional life chasing two of the greatest players to have ever played the game, while also thinking about the legacies of Pete, and even Laver, it has to take a toll...it just has to. The mental, emotional, and physical burden you have to go through day in and day out, week after week, month after month, year after year, and have the heart of a lion to keep taking the beatings, the setbacks, the heartbreaks, and then to finally hold that ever elusive RG title. To capture that unicorn, after looking in the mirror, looking into your eyes and telling yourself that you are good enough even when there are the doubters and naysayers that say or hope you never will. RG released everything out of his system in a powerful avalanche of relief.

RG had become like a double edged sword, because in his relentless pursuit to capture the title, Novak created without a doubt the greatest 18 months ever in the history of the game, Roger and Rafa had set the standards of what he must need to do, if he ever dared to walk amongst them. The all court surface domination, the masters titles haul, the WTF haul, slams on all surfaces...you simply were not allowed a weak point. To stand amongst them, almost destroyed Novak. I don’t think he ever truly recovered since RG, that spring uncoiled within and everything was released. So you ask me why Novak is the way he is now, it is because you can only fight so hard and so passionately for so long, it is in this flaw that legends likes Roger, Rafa and Novak truly leave their legacy behind, because it is in this you see their human side, and understand it was a human who put together a superhuman effort.

If there was not a Roger and a Rafa, there would never have been a Novak

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Many congratulations to you, Mr. Hitman. This is the first post in this forum that I think it deserves to have my blessing. You did it when I thought it was impossible. You definitely should be proud of yourself.
 
:) For those who think OP's post is TL;DR. Here's the short version:

It took Djokovic awhile to reach his peak, which he held for a couple of great years, and then he started to decline. Just like every other great tennis player in history.

You're welcome.
THANK YOU
 
Why retiring from TTW as well, Hitman? :(

Well summed up. Novak really fought an incredible lot to achieve everything he has, a really nice story. It has to end at some point though...
 
All players in history, who have won 4 straight slams, had slumps in the nest a few years.
Laver, Serena and Graf.

They all needed a few years to digest it and spring back with motivations.

Djokovic's slump came rather quick and it might help him spring back quick?
 
Well done @Hitman that was a really enjoyable read and well written. I completely agree that the results we've seen from Novak since RG were almost inevitable, such a level both physically and mentally is near impossible to sustain, especially after such an important victory...there has to be a release and a let down.

I have every confidence that Novak will bounce back strong and still has multiple Slams left in him, in fact I'm not even prepared to write him off this year as hard to imagine that he won't find motivation in retaining his number 1 ranking.
 
@Hitman going to the heart of what it takes to be a champ. In the end we are all human. That is the essence of what @Hitman is saying.

Will Djokovic bounce back. Yes, to a point. Will he be the same as before ? No. Like a soldier coming home after a tour of duty. Nothing is the same.

"Novak created without a doubt the greatest 18 months ever in the history of the game".

Don't let anybody forget this. Novak has the 2 greatest seasons ever. EVER ! This has taken it's emotional toll.
 
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I think he has a few more majors in him. I just don't see Murray, Stan and Nishikori being an obstacle at every major. He needs a little luck with the draw to avoid Delpo , Stan and the rest will take care of itself.

Murray ranked #2 is perfect for Djokovic. One of the easiest match-ups for him, and when they meet, it's always in the final.

Since 2014, H2H is 13-2....
Fed vs Murray: 5-0
Novak vs Roger: 9-6


Oh, and @Hitman - :cool:
 
He's still lost more finals to Murray (2 Slams and 5 Masters) than to any other player except Nadal! :cool:

I would love for Murray to bring his best into the finals other places than Wimbledon, but I don't see any spirit when he faces Novak most of the time :(
 
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Many congratulations to you, Mr. Hitman. This is the first post in this forum that I think it deserves to have my blessing. You did it when I thought it was impossible. You definitely should be proud of yourself.
Why retiring from TTW as well, Hitman? :(

Well summed up. Novak really fought an incredible lot to achieve everything he has, a really nice story. It has to end at some point though...
Well done @Hitman that was a really enjoyable read and well written. I completely agree that the results we've seen from Novak since RG were almost inevitable, such a level both physically and mentally is near impossible to sustain, especially after such an important victory...there has to be a release and a let down.

I have every confidence that Novak will bounce back strong and still has multiple Slams left in him, in fact I'm not even prepared to write him off this year as hard to imagine that he won't find motivation in retaining his number 1 ranking.
When I read the thread title I thought, "Who cares about your damn thoughts on Nole?" Then I realized it was a @Hitman post! Great stuff, man. I'm mostly in agreement with you.
@Hitman. Don't ever leave this forum. Please.
@Hitman,great thread brosef.

I'll be honest, it would blow chunks if you left but if this place is getting to ya then I can't argue with that. 1000000% the GOAT Djokovic fan on this board.
Murray ranked #2 is perfect for Djokovic. One of the easiest match-ups for him, and when they meet, it's always in the final.

Since 2014, H2H is 13-2....
Fed vs Murray: 5-0
Novak vs Roger: 9-6


Oh, and @Hitman - :cool:

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It's my time...I know you all can understand that. But no regrets, I loved every minute of it here with all of you. My tennis family.
 
RG had become like a double edged sword, because in his relentless pursuit to capture the title, Novak created without a doubt the greatest 18 months ever in the history of the game
Oh I doubt that very much. The game had much greater moments where more players contested a more varying kaleidoscope of prizes. Novak really is the embodiment of the aphorism about the one eyed being king among the blind.

Having said that, I can't imagine this place without you. TW is not bigger than the Hitman.
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@joekapa

OK, sorry about the delay for this, I am not around due to pre-contest training and my bodybuilding competitions, and I will most likely be leaving this site by the end of the year once I finish up, but you wanted my thoughts about Djokovic and I will honor your request. Imagine...Your whole life growing up, you work towards one goal, and that is being the best tennis player in the world, being number one and winning Wimbledon – That was what the world was like when Djokovic started first watching tennis, the first ever event he watched while his country was going through the most difficult time in its history, but as he watched his hero Sampras triumph at Wimbledon again and again, everything was changing. Sampras was changing tennis, it was becoming more than just about winning Wimbledon and becoming number one, it was becoming about being the GOAT. Pete had a different mindset to the ones that can before him, he wanted to achieve greatness in a truly definitive way, compiling record after record, he was the one that started to deepen the emphasis on slams in becoming the GOAT, the year end number ones, the weeks at number one, the domination of Wimbledon. Sampras was changing the goal posts and redefining what greatness meant. As Djokovic matured, watching his idol hold all the big records, he was leaving the war that plagued his childhood behind, but little did he know at the time that he was about to step straight into the middle of an even bigger war, one that would be deeply entwined in his adult life and long remembered after he is gone.

A war between two titans of the game that had been waging already for several years, and nothing like it had been seen before. Roger and Rafa were deeply entangled in their own personal war for greatness, with the silhouette of Pete in the background. For Novak, he had two choices, the first was to step aside and allow these two legends to make history, or he refuses to bow down and wants to become the legend he always dreamed of when he was child...For him the choice was obvious. Roger at that point was redefining tennis, he knew that if he was to ascend to the throne that everyone was expecting him to, and surpass Pete, he had to do the one thing that Pete couldn’t do, and that is win Roland Garros. To take him to the pinnacle, he needed a more complete resume that even the great Sampras before him, and it took immense mental fortitude, drive, willpower, determination for Roger to set and then pursue year after year such ambitious goals for himself...however we all know that Rafa was growing into the Clay GOAT and thwarting Roger, and not only thwarting him, but in the process building up his own legacy. Roger and Rafa was two equal, and opposing forces that powerfully clashed with ferocity on the court, and in the record books. All surface domination, winning all slams, stock piling masters events – they were adding even more to the GOAT requirements than even Pete did. Their compelling rivalry, and ability to push each to shockingly insane levels left everyone else in aftermath.

Novak pretty began his career surrounded by these two supernovas, a completely unprecedented situation. He fought them, got beaten, came back stronger, got beaten again, and came back stronger again. The more they showed their superior play, the more lessons he learnt, it was baptism by fire, he was being moulded by Roger and Rafa. They began to create the Novak that we now know, and as he got better, as he started to increase his level, as he got stronger, he forged with them two of the greatest rivalries ever seen in the history of the game – He had no choice, Fedal had taken the landscape that Pete had put together, and turned it upside down. Now Novak knew that he needed everything they had, the Slam record, weeks at number one, the career slam, the WTFs, the year ends, the masters titles, the all surface domination. Anything less would be seen as a failure, the stakes had become so high, the expectations so grand. He kicked, scratched and clawed his way up the mountain, but those scars that Roger and Rafa gave him in battle were slowly building up. Roland Garros...If ever he wanted to have his name to be said in the same breath as theirs, he couldn’t have a gap that big in his resume, even if he put together outstanding records everywhere. It drove him on, losing those epics to Roger, Rafa and Stan in Paris, but everything was building up inside, almost like a coiled spring just waiting to be released. Living every minute of your professional life chasing two of the greatest players to have ever played the game, while also thinking about the legacies of Pete, and even Laver, it has to take a toll...it just has to. The mental, emotional, and physical burden you have to go through day in and day out, week after week, month after month, year after year, and have the heart of a lion to keep taking the beatings, the setbacks, the heartbreaks, and then to finally hold that ever elusive RG title. To capture that unicorn, after looking in the mirror, looking into your eyes and telling yourself that you are good enough even when there are the doubters and naysayers that say or hope you never will. RG released everything out of his system in a powerful avalanche of relief.

RG had become like a double edged sword, because in his relentless pursuit to capture the title, Novak created without a doubt the greatest 18 months ever in the history of the game, Roger and Rafa had set the standards of what he must need to do, if he ever dared to walk amongst them. The all court surface domination, the masters titles haul, the WTF haul, slams on all surfaces...you simply were not allowed a weak point. To stand amongst them, almost destroyed Novak. I don’t think he ever truly recovered since RG, that spring uncoiled within and everything was released. So you ask me why Novak is the way he is now, it is because you can only fight so hard and so passionately for so long, it is in this flaw that legends likes Roger, Rafa and Novak truly leave their legacy behind, because it is in this you see their human side, and understand it was a human who put together a superhuman effort.

If there was not a Roger and a Rafa, there would never have been a Novak

Cool Story, but the real reason is because he has been too busy being on nappy duties to spend enough time in the egg. :D
 
It just speaks volumes on how pathetic this era is, when it's seen as some kind of huge crisis for Djokovic post FO because some other players are winning things for once. Everyone from players to fans giving "thoughts on his current situation" these days. Still got to US Open final pretty easily, still won some wretched m1000 some time after FO. The faker done this whilst claiming he had some injury, which seems to come and go depending on whether he wins on loses. If he goes next year slamless then it's a crisis. Until then it's just people just being dramatic.
 
Thank you for this write up Hitman, amazing read. One of the best Novak fans out there.
Novak fanbase rating suddenly dipped from 2.5 to 0.5
Let me also say that while I haven't yet read the whole OP, that I did notice the part where you said you would be leaving us and that would really suck. :) @Hitman.

I only hope that when you leave you'll come back some day.
The @Hitman will be back, when we need him. For now we have to fend for ourselves. It's the only way.
Oh I doubt that very much. The game had much greater moments where more players contested a more varying kaleidoscope of prizes. Novak really is the embodiment of the aphorism about the one eyed being king among the blind.

Having said that, I can't imagine this place without you. TW is not bigger than the Hitman.
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You all are truly humbling me. I am no better than anyone else here. @tennisaddict stop being so mean! LOL :) @Russeljones add the word 'Run' after 18 months, and it will make more sense. ;)
 
@Hitman - the day you finish up on this site will be sadder than the day tennis' Big 4 all retire :) I'm sure I am not the only one who holds this view. Now that I've read it fully, I can say this is an excellent piece on Novak - very true, very concise and brilliantly put.

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You all will always be my tennis family, and I wouldn't change that for anything. Too many wonderful memories I had with here with you all for six and half years, and that is a reflection on how great all of you have been that I stayed so longed. ;)
 
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It's my time...I know you all can understand that. But no regrets, I loved every minute of it here with all of you. My tennis family.

You know why you can't leave?
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I mean, who's gonna keep up all the Supernatural giffing?
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After Roland Garros, Novak had accomplished something that had not occurred in men's tennis for nearly a quarter of a century - he was 1/2 way to the calendar year grand slam . Coupled with the Olympics being contested on slow hard courts and Djokovic being the defending (2 time) champion at Wimbledon and also the US Open , Djokovic could have completed the Golden grand slam, tied Nadal and Sampras with 14 slams, and won 6 consecutive grand slams ( men's record , tie Navratilova ). After such a last dominating 1 1/2 - 2 years, these were all realistic possibilities . After all, Djokovic had conquered his Achilles' tendon , he finally won his elusive French Open.

Novak was playing with the possibility of too much greatness riding on his results and he buckled . Serena did the same thing at the 2015 US Open. Tennis greats are keenly aware of their places in tennis history , and this awareness only magnifies the stress when a player is on the cusp of accomplishing something that could set them apart from the rest of the pack .

That Wimbledon lost devastated Djokovic . Not to discredit Sam Querry and the match he played , but Novak could have prevailed i even being down 2 sets . Remember the 2 bad calls at 5-4 in the fourth set and Novak was out of challenges ? If he only had not wasted one challenge earlier in the set, Novak could have won both those points on challenges and almost certainly forced a 5th set. Of course, If Novak would have played a better tiebreaker , he would have also had a chance to win the match . The loss also ended Novak's 7 year run of not losing before the quarters in a slam . Djokovic has had his share of grand slam losses later in tournaments , but this was the 1st time in the Djokovic era, he blinked and lost a match he should have won . I cannot recall a more bitter lost in tennis . Djokovic likely would have been able to shrug off a late tournament loss to Raonic , Federer, or Murray easier than a third round loss he could have pulled out of with a win .

Del Porto was absolutely the worst first round opponent Djokovic could have played in Rio. A South American former GS champion that beat Novak in the 2012 Olympics. Del Porto had the renewed confidence , the crowd , and an uncertain Djokovic and played a terrific match . Clearly , Djokovic wanted to out the past couple months behind him at the US Open and his play indicated some type of wrist or shoulder injury . The severity of the injury was never fully exposed, but Djokovic's serve and ground strokes haven't had the same pop and crispness since the French Open . No one is going to bear Stan the Man in a GS final not playing at their best with shaken confidence .

Australian Open 2017 is going to be important for Djokovic's legacy . It's his favorite tournament that he's won 5 of the last 6 years and the absolute best place to regain his confidence. Novak is likely to play 2 more tournaments this year and most likely his usual 1 warmup tournament before AO . A win in Australia and Novak is back on track and the past 3 and 1/2 months are behind him ; another unexpected loss and Djokovic's Grand slam total will remain stalled at 12 and may stay there for a while .


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