Novak Djokovic still hasn’t made a decision in regards to playing the US Open

Oval_Solid

Hall of Fame
After the whole Adria Tour and vaccination stuff it would be a great PR move for him to be seen taking it extra seriously now by skipping the USO.
wow Djokovic just became my favorite player
and i hate using head rackets because of the handle shape damn
 

Lleytonstation

Talk Tennis Guru
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Dan007

Hall of Fame
bruh cancel this year's US Open. wth is usta thinking. Majority of the top players are skipping and there is still too much risk involved running a tournament.
 

Lleytonstation

Talk Tennis Guru
Yes he can, I don't know why people keep posting this. There are many cases of people getting COVID a second time:

https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/07/24/covid-reinfection
Well I have not heard about this, but I guess it is possible. Either way, it has to be much more difficult for him to get it. Plus if it did not affect him the first time, I doubt he is worried about it the second time. Plus, after the Adria Tour, we know where he stands on others being infected...
 

Dan007

Hall of Fame
Money.

The USTA's deal with TV is 75 million dollars alone. The business of America has always been business, nothing new here.

So just from TV alone they are making 75 million which is probably lot less than traditional years where they have ticket, merchandise, food, etc sale. When you distribute that back to players, employees, etc. I don't think they would be making much money at the end of the tournament. I could be wrong but personally I don't think its worth the risk. If Wimbledon can cancel so can the US Open
 

bjsnider

Hall of Fame
Djokovic's likelihood of winning the USO is far greater than RG, so I think he should play it, even though I like the Thiemstar to take it all.
 

mbm0912

Hall of Fame
We should shame him harshly if he decides to play. That's just plain inconsiderate to humanity.
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
Yes he can, I don't know why people keep posting this. There are many cases of people getting COVID a second time:

https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/07/24/covid-reinfection
It says right there on your link, which you obviously didn't read:

But despite the anecdotal reports from doctors about patients becoming reinfected with the coronavirus, researchers say there's no evidence supporting the notion that people can become reinfected with the virus within a short time period.

Jesus H. Christ! It's ANECDOTAL reports of patients becoming reinfected, which could just be a reactivation. Also from YOUR link:

Clinicians say more research is needed to answer the question of why some patients appear to fall ill with Covid-19 more than once, but some believe that such patients simply relapse because the coronavirus lays dormant in their bodies and reemerges—an occurrence that's been seen with some viruses that often result in lifetime immunity, such as the chickenpox virus,
 
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what_army

Semi-Pro
I’m leaning towards Djokovic skipping. It’s the sensible thing to do after the whole Adria Tour mess and would increase his likability.

At least I would respect him much more for choosing not to accumulate meaningless slams.

edit: it would also make things much more interesting to see which nextgener comes out on top, I’m guessing Thiem as he’s probably the most fit/driven to win right now.
 

what_army

Semi-Pro
It says right there on your link, which you obviously didn't read:

But despite the anecdotal reports from doctors about patients becoming reinfected with the coronavirus, researchers say there's no evidence supporting the notion that people can become reinfected with the virus within a short time period.

Jesus H. Christ! It's ANECDOTAL reports of patients becoming reinfected, which could just be a reactivation. Also from YOUR link:

Clinicians say more research is needed to answer the question of why some patients appear to fall ill with Covid-19 more than once, but some believe that such patients simply relapse because the coronavirus lays dormant in their bodies and reemerges—an occurrence that's been seen with some viruses that often result in lifetime immunity, such as the chickenpox virus,

A few things:
- not everyone develops antibodies so you could in theory become reinfected;
- of course reinfection hasn’t happened at least in large scale (soon to say);
- at this point it is very likely that, similarly to what happens with other diseases caused by other strains of the coronavirus family, that the antibodies are not long lasting (MERS, SARS1)
 

beard

Legend
So just from TV alone they are making 75 million which is probably lot less than traditional years where they have ticket, merchandise, food, etc sale. When you distribute that back to players, employees, etc. I don't think they would be making much money at the end of the tournament. I could be wrong but personally I don't think its worth the risk. If Wimbledon can cancel so can the US Open
It's about money, always ;)
Wimbledon you mentioned had insurance and got, if I'm not wrong, about 140 milion dollars or pounds...
They cancelled tournament as soon as possible. Without insurance we would watch Wimbledon this days, I believe...
 
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Deleted member 770948

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We are hoping that Djokovic wins this US Open, so his 18 slams will be forever tainted.
But unfortunately he is at the mercy of Thiem, as we saw in Australia (his baby, whereas he rarely wins the US Open).
 

boredone3456

G.O.A.T.
He probably knows no matter what he does he loses. If he plays and wins everyone will just go "well it was a weak draw because of XYZ" if he skips it and someone else wins their first as a result "well Novak should have played it would have been a cakewalk for him".
 

beard

Legend
He probably knows no matter what he does he loses. If he plays and wins everyone will just go "well it was a weak draw because of XYZ" if he skips it and someone else wins their first as a result "well Novak should have played it would have been a cakewalk for him".
You are absolutely right, but hope first option to fulfill... It will be really hard, but time would heal his wounds and wash the shame of winning another slam...
 

SonnyT

Legend
Michael, I wouldn't mind it either! The American (Isner, Opelka)-Canada (Shapo, FAA)- YoungGuns (Med, Thiem, Tsi) tri-shootout.

Instead of the usual Big 3 shootout! And Nadal and Djokovic will have all their racquets blazing on the clay in Europe this fall, just before the second wave! Imagine that!
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Michael, I wouldn't mind it either! The American (Isner, Opelka)-Canada (Shapo, FAA)- YoungGuns (Med, Thiem, Tsi) tri-shootout.

Instead of the usual Big 3 shootout! And Nadal and Djokovic will have all their racquets blazing on the clay in Europe this fall, just before the second wave! Imagine that!

I feel he cares way too much about passing Fedal to skip it, but damn it would be refreshing knowing we'd have a new slam champ. It would make the USO the most exciting slam in a while for me.
 

myth

Professional
I feel he cares way too much about passing Fedal to skip it, but damn it would be refreshing knowing we'd have a new slam champ. It would make the USO the most exciting slam in a while for me.

I am sure if Nadal was in the tournament you wouldn't mind him winning over the next gen. Just saying...
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
"But two recent studies – one from China and one from the United Kingdom – found that the antibodies that fight against future infection faded within a few months."

“Re-infection at some point in the future remains a possibility.”

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/covid-19-experts/story?id=71792664
The human immune system has more than just antibodies:

Turning to patients who had caught SARS back in 2003 and recovered, it is already known (and worried about) that their antibody responses faded within two or three years. But this paper shows that these patients still have (17 years later!) a robust T-cell response to the original SARS coronavirus’s N protein, which extends an earlier report of such responses going out to 11 years. This new work finds that these cross-react with the new SARS CoV-2 N protein as well. This makes one think, as many have been wondering, that T-cell driven immunity is perhaps the way to reconcile the apparent paradox between (1) antibody responses that seem to be dropping week by week in convalescent patients but (2) few (if any) reliable reports of actual re-infection. That would be good news indeed.


Animal studies have also shown that getting the virus once protected them from reinfection:


You obviously can't do a trial like that with human beings, but the evidence is promising. Cautioning that reinfection is a possibility is a far cry from your claims that there is "abundant evidence" that there is no immunity
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
I am sure if Nadal was in the tournament you wouldn't mind him winning over the next gen. Just saying...

I never said I wouldn't, the point is Federer and Nadal are both out and bc of that, this is the perfect time for someone to snag a slam without me feeling like Rafa missed anything, of course. Now I want the machine to do his part so we can finally see something new.
 

Beckerserve

Legend
First, most players haven't decided yet if they are gonna play or not, why is Novak drama queen, and other aren't?

Second, who are his biggest rivals you are talking about? Rafa is not threat on hard court for him, and Federer haven't win 8 years on slam against Novak... Thiem and Med are bigger problem at a moment and they will probably play...
At Us Open and Montreal/Toronto i would back Nadal over Djokovic most times.
Only drama queens are Nadal and Nick. Why have they withdrawn exactly? Spineless decision by both.
 
It says right there on your link, which you obviously didn't read:

But despite the anecdotal reports from doctors about patients becoming reinfected with the coronavirus, researchers say there's no evidence supporting the notion that people can become reinfected with the virus within a short time period.

Jesus H. Christ! It's ANECDOTAL reports of patients becoming reinfected, which is most likely a reactivation. Also from YOUR link:

Clinicians say more research is needed to answer the question of why some patients appear to fall ill with Covid-19 more than once, but some believe that such patients simply relapse because the coronavirus lays dormant in their bodies and reemerges—an occurrence that's been seen with some viruses that often result in lifetime immunity, such as the chickenpox virus,
It's @BeatlesFan FGS. The walking fake news generator. Relax...
 
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