Novak Djokovic still haunted by loss to Alexander Zverev

Topspin_80

Hall of Fame
Djokovic took a 7 minute bathroom break after losing the third set against Alcaraz at Wimbledon too.
Rules say you're allowed 3 minutes (5 if you're changing clothes).
There was some controversy over the time players take for a bathroom break.

The rule about the time allotted is just like you explained, 3 mins and 5 mins changing clothes.

But that time starts counting from the moment the player enters the bathroom.

If the toilet is close to the court, it might take 1 min to go and another to come back, plus the 3 or 5 mins.

If the toilet is faraway, it may take longer.

They have an official clocking the time inside the toilet, or dressing room for that purpose.
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
There are some people, specially djoko fans, who think an Olympic gold is close to worthless.

But by the way every tennis player and his brother want to go to the Olympics representing their countries, normal people would think that
tennis players set great store on a possible olympic medal.

When you have some very patriotic player like Novak, you know that he wants it, he wants it badly.

In this article you will have a clear vision of what an olympic medal means for Djokovic.

I'm 100% positive, that his main goal for 2024 is the Olympics, and not just a medal, he already has one, but a gold medal to take it to Serbia.

“An Olympic medal, especially gold, is always a big wish,” Djokovic, who will be 36 at the time of the Paris Games, told Radio Television of Serbia in an interview.

“I rewound my match with Zverev in Tokyo many times, trying to figure out what went wrong,” he said.


“I played superbly up to that point, but I did feel I was running on fumes, both mentally and physically.”

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Zverev was the better player. End of…..
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
True.

But sometimes when you have 2 targets, and your energy is not what it used to be, you have to make decisions, and
often they are painful.

Tokyo was hot, heat is just about the worst natural element for Novak, and on top of that he wanted doubles as well.

That's is biting more than you can chew, but then hindsight is 20/20.

Anyway, that shows how much the Olympics means for Novak, and this coming 2024, he'll be there with all he's got.
I think it was idiotic to play doubles and mixed when they had just a week to go through all. Now he is playing doubles in Cincinnati but it's different with 2 weeks time. Yes Nole went overboard with doubles and mixed stuff.
 

BauerAlmeida

Hall of Fame
I think it was idiotic to play doubles and mixed when they had just a week to go through all. Now he is playing doubles in Cincinnati but it's different with 2 weeks time. Yes Nole went overboard with doubles and mixed stuff.

It was stupid overplaying the Olympics, he should have just played singles. It definitely affected him there. But going to the Olympics had no impact in the USO whatsoever, there were like 40 days between one event and the other.
 

Topspin_80

Hall of Fame
It was stupid overplaying the Olympics, he should have just played singles. It definitely affected him there. But going to the Olympics had no impact in the USO whatsoever, there were like 40 days between one event and the other.
There were 29 days not 40.

Nole didn't play Cincinnati as usual, so definitely had impact.

Zverev won the Olympics then went on to win Cincinnati. For him there was no impact being younger than Djokovic.
 

Olli Jokinen

Hall of Fame
Back in 1992 the IOC changed the rules regarding professionals not being allowed to compete at the Olympics.

That was a revolution.

The USA started assembling the greatest basketball team ever.

At that time Jordan and Pipen were ruling the NBA.

When word came out that NBA players would be allowed to play, everybody signed up.

Every single top player wanted in.

The list was impressive: Jordan, Pipen, Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Drexler, Isiah Thomas, Dave Robinson, Pat Ewing,
Larry Bird, Magic Johnson had retired but he came back for the Olympics.

That much value all these great players placed on the Olympics.

Deny the importance of the Olympics, is pure foolishness.
Tennis pros were already in the Olympics in 1988. In 1992 legend Marc Rosset beat superstar Jordi Arrese in the finals. The women's final and doubles were pretty decent.
 

jl809

Legend
His loss in London 2012 devastated him.

TENNIS star Novak Djokovic was so upset after missing out on a medal at the London Games that he cut his racquets into pieces with a saw.
Head of the Serbian Olympic Committee Vlade Divac told Vesti Online the Djokovic made a personal apology for his performance.

“I never saw anyone have such energy to fight for a medal for Serbia. It is contagious. After the match I came to (Djokovic). You know what he was doing? He was so miserable, he was cutting up his racquets with a saw," Divac told Vesti Online.

"That is not someone who doesn’t care about the result. His main goals were Roland Garros and the Olympic Games.
He said, ‘Vlade, I’m sorry.’ I told him, ‘You don’t have to apologise for anything, you’re a champion and always will be.
’”


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BauerAlmeida

Hall of Fame
There were 29 days not 40.

Nole didn't play Cincinnati as usual, so definitely had impact.

Zverev won the Olympics then went on to win Cincinnati. For him there was no impact being younger than Djokovic.


The last match of the Olympics he played (3rd place) was on July 31st.

The USO final was on September 12th.

So I hardly think it played a part. It's been over 40 days between those matches, if he had lost in the 1st round it would obviously be a shorter period of time so I guess you could make a case.
In any case, the SF 5-setter affected him in the match vs Medvedev since it was a long match and recent, but I don't see how playing a few three-set matches that happened over a month before had any impact in that match. Especially given it was the only tournament he played between Wimbledon and the USO. Was he supposed to not play at all between those events? Playing ONE event can hardly be considered overplaying.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
The last match of the Olympics he played (3rd place) was on July 31st.

The USO final was on September 12th.

So I hardly think it played a part. It's been over 40 days between those matches, if he had lost in the 1st round it would obviously be a shorter period of time so I guess you could make a case.
In any case, the SF 5-setter affected him in the match vs Medvedev since it was a long match and recent, but I don't see how playing a few three-set matches that happened over a month before had any impact in that match. Especially given it was the only tournament he played between Wimbledon and the USO. Was he supposed to not play at all between those events? Playing ONE event can hardly be considered overplaying.
Whatever.

Novak was so subpar in USO 21 because he needed rest after Wimbledon.

He played Serbia, Madrid, Rome, Serbia 2, RG and Wimbledon all in span of 2 months. And then he went to Olympics playing 3 different categories halfway around the world.


All the while his competitors played much less and were much more younger than him.

Nole's best prep would be skip Olympics and rest. Come to Cincinnati and just play 2/3 matches and lose early. Olympics he couldn't throw away since he needed it.

You can't just replace 1 tournament with another and say oh it's all the same. There is rest, travel and many things which is obvious to anyone not with agenda.
 

Topspin_80

Hall of Fame
The last match of the Olympics he played (3rd place) was on July 31st.

The USO final was on September 12th.

So I hardly think it played a part. It's been over 40 days between those matches, if he had lost in the 1st round it would obviously be a shorter period of time so I guess you could make a case.
In any case, the SF 5-setter affected him in the match vs Medvedev since it was a long match and recent, but I don't see how playing a few three-set matches that happened over a month before had any impact in that match. Especially given it was the only tournament he played between Wimbledon and the USO. Was he supposed to not play at all between those events? Playing ONE event can hardly be considered overplaying.
What do you mean? Nole only played the final on September 12th?

What about 1rn, 2rn, 3rn, 4rn, qf, sf? Did he play him? If yes, when did he start playing the USO21?
 

Topspin_80

Hall of Fame
Whatever.

Novak was so subpar in USO 21 because he needed rest after Wimbledon.

He played Serbia, Madrid, Rome, Serbia 2, RG and Wimbledon all in span of 2 months. And then he went to Olympics playing 3 different categories halfway around the world.


All the while his competitors played much less and were much more younger than him.

Nole's best prep would be skip Olympics and rest. Come to Cincinnati and just play 2/3 matches and lose early. Olympics he couldn't throw away since he needed it.

You can't just replace 1 tournament with another and say oh it's all the same. There is rest, travel and many things which is obvious to anyone not with agenda.
Absolutely!

Great post (y)
 

BauerAlmeida

Hall of Fame
What do you mean? Nole only played the final on September 12th?

What about 1rn, 2rn, 3rn, 4rn, qf, sf? Did he play him? If yes, when did he start playing the USO21?


He won all those rounds, so the Olympics obviously weren't affected him. If he had a shocking defeat in the 1st round, you could say it played a part. But it played a part in losing in the final? When the last match in the Olympics was 40 days ago? Or does it make more sense that if he was fatigued it was because of playing a 5-setter two days before the final? More than playing a few three-setters between 40 and 50 days before the final?

Whatever.

Novak was so subpar in USO 21 because he needed rest after Wimbledon.

He played Serbia, Madrid, Rome, Serbia 2, RG and Wimbledon all in span of 2 months. And then he went to Olympics playing 3 different categories halfway around the world.


All the while his competitors played much less and were much more younger than him.

Nole's best prep would be skip Olympics and rest. Come to Cincinnati and just play 2/3 matches and lose early. Olympics he couldn't throw away since he needed it.

You can't just replace 1 tournament with another and say oh it's all the same. There is rest, travel and many things which is obvious to anyone not with agenda.


So playing Cincinnati which was played AFTER the Olympics would have been better for the USO than the Olympics? How does it make sense? All those events you mentioned like Roma and Belgrade were ages before. If those events tired him it would have shown in Wimbledon and/or RG, not at the USO. But he won a couple of five-setters at RG and a long 4-setter against Nadal. Between Wimbledon and the USO he played ONE event, which is normal. He should have played less in that event, yes, but it's still one event. And doubles doesn't tire you much. I think overplaying in the Olympics affected him in the Olympics, he would have done better in singles not playing the other competitions. But playing one event after Wimbledon can hardly affect him much in the USO final. Having a long five-setter in the SF is what cost him the final if anything.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
Even if he isn't what is your issue? Did you lose big money ?
My issue is your insane level of fandom. You talk like he's your family member or something. You can't even accept that he lost to a better player at Wimbledon. Continually making excuses instead of showing good sportsmanship like a proper mature fan of the sport and giving credit where it's deserved.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
There was some controversy over the time players take for a bathroom break.

The rule about the time allotted is just like you explained, 3 mins and 5 mins changing clothes.

But that time starts counting from the moment the player enters the bathroom.

If the toilet is close to the court, it might take 1 min to go and another to come back, plus the 3 or 5 mins.

If the toilet is faraway, it may take longer.

They have an official clocking the time inside the toilet, or dressing room for that purpose.
He won the very next set after taking that bathroom break. But couldn't carry on the momentum as Alcaraz raised his own level.
Still a very crappy move from Djokovic. But he's always doing it whenever he's losing. So no surprise.
They should've fined him his whole Wimbledon purse for the racquet smash.
 

Fiero425

Legend
He won the very next set after taking that bathroom break. But couldn't carry on the momentum as Alcaraz raised his own level.
Still a very crappy move from Djokovic. But he's always doing it whenever he's losing. So no surprise.
They should've fined him his whole Wimbledon purse for the racquet smash.

Carlos didn't donate some points at crucial times like other players! Novak was in control, up a set and set point in the TB, but blew it! I have nothing but admiration for both their efforts! I'm not having a problem with the results at all! I preferred Novak taking that 3rd FO more so his resume w/b more balanced! He now has 3 CGS; 1 more than Nadal & 2 more than Federer! Anything Djokovic wins now is gravy and he's just extending records that may never be broken! :unsure: ;):rolleyes::giggle::happydevil:
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
Carlos didn't donate some points at crucial times like other players! Novak was in control, up a set and set point in the TB, but blew it! I have nothing but admiration for both their efforts! I'm not having a problem with the results at all! I preferred Novak taking that 3rd FO more so his resume w/b more balanced! He now has 3 CGS; 1 more than Nadal & 2 more than Federer! Anything Djokovic wins now is gravy and he's just extending records that may never be broken! :unsure: ;):rolleyes::giggle::happydevil:
And even still he gets booed by the crowds everywhere. Seems people care more about entertainment value than they do about records.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
My issue is your insane level of fandom. You talk like he's your family member or something. You can't even accept that he lost to a better player at Wimbledon. Continually making excuses instead of showing good sportsmanship like a proper mature fan of the sport and giving credit where it's deserved.
You are a fool. I have accepted he lost to better player that day. You must be confusing me with some one since the member is appearing like me. But you are definitely a fool.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
He won all those rounds, so the Olympics obviously weren't affected him. If he had a shocking defeat in the 1st round, you could say it played a part. But it played a part in losing in the final? When the last match in the Olympics was 40 days ago? Or does it make more sense that if he was fatigued it was because of playing a 5-setter two days before the final? More than playing a few three-setters between 40 and 50 days before the final?




So playing Cincinnati which was played AFTER the Olympics would have been better for the USO than the Olympics? How does it make sense? All those events you mentioned like Roma and Belgrade were ages before. If those events tired him it would have shown in Wimbledon and/or RG, not at the USO. But he won a couple of five-setters at RG and a long 4-setter against Nadal. Between Wimbledon and the USO he played ONE event, which is normal. He should have played less in that event, yes, but it's still one event. And doubles doesn't tire you much. I think overplaying in the Olympics affected him in the Olympics, he would have done better in singles not playing the other competitions. But playing one event after Wimbledon can hardly affect him much in the USO final. Having a long five-setter in the SF is what cost him the final if anything.
It makes perfect sense. Novak would be in same country, almost same time zone and conditions would be better and his rest would be complete. Better training block before transitioning to hard court and he wouldn't care if he lost Cincy at all vs how much Olympics means to him.
 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
Sorry, but there is no other haunting loss that will ever impress a Federer fan, once we experienced what we did. It's no use to even try.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
My issue is your insane level of fandom. You talk like he's your family member or something. You can't even accept that he lost to a better player at Wimbledon. Continually making excuses instead of showing good sportsmanship like a proper mature fan of the sport and giving credit where it's deserved.
What you have to say now.

We nolefams never made excuses even when nole did not have gold. Respecting it.
 
Now Novak has won the olympic gold. Where are the no sayers . Better late than never ....novak won without loosing a set. That is enough i think for all who said he will not win
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
Now Novak has won the olympic gold. Where are the no sayers . Better late than never ....novak won without loosing a set. That is enough i think for all who said he will not win
He said he wants it and he put his entire season on the line for it. Came out with the gold. Now he has nothing left to prove.

Who says you can't have it all. Nole did.
 
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