Tennis_Freak99
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Reacts to the hecklers and confirms Rome and RG participation
What’s he going to say? “Keep pressing that fake ass *****, NoleFam! Adje!”
well done Novak. The usual idiots and losers will grumble but that is life. On to Europe!
Well he could have said nothing. Obviously he could have probably condemned those morons that are sending threats more effectively, but this is definitely saying "don't do bad **** to this lineswoman."What’s he going to say? “Keep pressing that fake ass *****, NoleFam! Adje!”
Well he could have said nothing. Obviously he could have probably condemned those morons that are sending threats more effectively, but this is definitely saying "don't do bad **** to this lineswoman."
He could?
Yes, the half baked "care" really shows something.
It is not saying that.
Poor Novak must deal with many fools
If I understand the intention of that gif, it couldn't have been more misplaced.
In fact, considering why you made this thread, you must have thought about what describes your state at this time.
If being a multimillionaire, one of the best players ever, with millions of followers, who won all the top tournaments, and with many other records makes you a fool one wonders what’s left for the rest of the planetHe has to deal with being himself every day, so he's got plenty of experience, I suppose...
If being a multimillionaire, one of the best players ever, with millions of followers, who won all the top tournaments, and with many other records makes you a fool one wonders what’s left for the rest of the planet
You should think of your state dude, this is not even a thread about Fed and about half of the messages are from you Lol! Go spread the hateIf I understand the intention of that gif, it couldn't have been more misplaced.
In fact, considering why you made this thread, you must have thought about what describes your state at this time.
You should think of your state dude, this is not even a thread about Fed and about half of the messages are from you Lol! Go spread the hate
and 'expert analysis' somewhere else
Djoker is not responsible for what fans do.
Let this lineswoman simply restrict her social media accounts. Problem solved.
She certainly does not need any "support".
It would be great if we never hear from her again.
Obviously he could have done better, but this response is better than nothing, right? About half of Djokovic fans on the site have made peace with the call and understand it was the right call to make. Think critically, Big. We're capable of condemning the way he acted and realizing he could have done more without witch-hunting him for putting out a statement against attacking this woman.The Djoktards are out in full force trying to defend their guy for what happened and the incredibly ****ty way he handled the situation, by just taking off without answering any questions from the media or owning up to what he did in a presser.
Haters gonna hate...no matter whatCould't even finish it without squeezing himself into it. Also, she doesn't need your "community support". She needs your "community" to stay out of her life.
Yes, by not posting the message, it would have effectively not posted the message.He could?
He should have gone further, as I said. Still tells people that she needs support, and I'm from a part of the world where supporting someone means "don't send them death threats."Yes, the half baked "care" really shows something.
Yes it is.It is not saying that.
Haters gonna hate...no matter what
Yes, by not posting the message, it would have effectively not posted the message.
He should have gone further, as I said. Still tells people that she needs support, and I'm from a part of the world where supporting someone means "don't send them death threats."
Yes it is.
I often find myself wondering if you're purposefully reductive or if you're putting on a persona. You do realize people have different ways of saying the same thing? If I say "I must have an apple" I don't literally mean I need an apple or else I will die, I'm obviously saying "I'd like an apple."I crack up laughing often upon reading the bureaucratic posts of some of you. Yes, technically he could not say a word for the rest of his life. Guess what, he is a public figure and needs to deal with that thing called public image (even if he caters only to his faithful following).
Again, she doesn't need their support. She needs these people to stay out of her life. That is all.
No it is not. It is generally accepted that the vile comments are actually not part of any normality, so they shouldn't even be considered an end goal of any appeal for support.
Blah blah Djokovic I hate you blah blah 40-15 blah blahBy putting himself into that post he actually is saying "I am moving on", so, the post is not really about her, but about himself. The fact that he didn't care to point at the real problem with the "community" shows how much he "cares" about what is happening to her.
I often find myself wondering if you're purposefully reductive or if you're putting on a persona. You do realize people have different ways of saying the same thing? If I say "I must have an apple" I don't literally mean I need an apple or else I will die, I'm obviously saying "I'd like an apple."
Similarly, "give her support" doesn't mean "go flood her social media with both death threats and lovely messages!" It means "Stop the trolls. Don't send her death threats." I swear, you're the only person that could read "give this woman support" and say "Wow, Novak's an arse."
As for him needing to address this, he really didn't have to. He could have stayed silent. Not like his public image can get much worse. He decided to do it, even if there was strong suggestion in order to help stop the bleeding.
Blah blah Djokovic I hate you blah blah 40-15 blah blah
He used language that anyone reasonable would have understood.Interesting that you are doing exactly that by saying that he could not say a word.
To offer support means being kind/helping them. It doesn't necessarily mean to encourage them. It means to do whatever you can to assist them. Not making death threats is definitely supportive/caring, as is keeping your fellow fans in check to keep them from making death threats.No. Give her support means "actively show encouragement". She needs neither from that group, but she needs the vile attacks on her personality/life to stop ASAP.
I already told you that in no normal perception are death threads an end goal to an appeal for support. That would be weird to say the least.
There are many scenarios where something blows over. It's happened countless times so far and it very well could have happened again. You don't know how the tides would have played out. Many PR teams just tell their clients not to address it and it blows over eventually.Ah, yes, he could have glossed over the issue, but how would he have said it without hurting his public image even more? You are wrong, Novak is well liked from many decent fans, so you are purposefully picturing him in the corner with nothing to lose just so that your comment appears somewhat adequate. There is no scenario where he "stops the bleeding" by not saying a word on that matter anymore.
Man, Novak is going to be so mad right now. He’s gonna do all in for RG. We might have an electric GS coming up.
He used language that anyone reasonable would have understood.
To offer support means being kind/helping them. It doesn't necessarily mean to encourage them. It means to do whatever you can to assist them. Not making death threats is definitely supportive/caring, as is keeping your fellow fans in check to keep them from making death threats..
From what I'm understanding, your claim is Death threats = offer support?
There are many scenarios where something blows over. It's happened countless times so far and it very well could have happened again. You don't know how the tides would have played out. Many PR teams just tell their clients not to address it and it blows over eventually.
I see you need everything spelled out for you. Fair enough.That comment doesn't address anything that you quoted in relation to it. It is not about him, in this instance, but about what you said, and in no scenario (if we should talk about Novak's reaction) "not saying a word/not writing about it" which was your "alternative" to what he could do equals "language that anyone reasonable would have understood". You can't understand anything, if nothing is said.
Wrong. You can stop other fans from doing these things by reporting them, talking them down, and by getting them banned off social media.The only way of "helping" someone on the Internet/Social media is by showing encouragement in words. I hope you are not suggesting that his fans should start looking for her in real life. Considering the nature of some of the posts in her direction that is much more worrying as a suggestion.
Of course it has. So bear with me here, this may be difficult to follow. If Djokovic wants people to be supportive and caring, and death threats aren't supportive nor caring, Djokovic doesn't want people to do death threats. Sound reasonable?"Not making death threats is definitely supportive/caring"
Jeeze, I don't know where you live where the perception is such, but I know that I wouldn't want to be part of that society where such a thing is even considered as a sign of "support". The normal society is well past that point, I hope.
Clearly there's something that isn't coming across. You didn't think Djokovic saying "be supportive and caring" meant "don't do death threats". If these things have no relation to one another, this means if my mother asked me to be supportive and caring of my brother, I could send him death threats. Obviously this isn't true, so you're just plain old incorrect here.WHAT? Are you out of your mind?
I am saying that death threats are such a grave occurrence, that in no way they should be even considered in any relation to an act of support. Not even as a end goal of a call for support. Simply put they are such a dark occurrence that they are out of bounds to any normal person, let alone to one calling for extra
It's really a widely used tool, I have no idea why you think it's a last resort kind of thing. Really not addressing it and hoping it blows over is frightfully common (just look at America for the past 10 months).That would leave those wondering cold, which is a PR disaster. Such means are reserved for the worst offences, and that is just a tennis match.
Wrong.
Of course it has. So bear with me here, this may be difficult to follow. If Djokovic wants people to be supportive and caring, and death threats aren't supportive nor caring, Djokovic doesn't want people to do death threats. Sound reasonable?
Clearly there's something that isn't coming across. You didn't think Djokovic saying "be supportive and caring" meant "don't do death threats". If these things have no relation to one another, this means if my mother asked me to be supportive and caring of my brother, I could send him death threats. Obviously this isn't true, so you're just plain old incorrect here.
It's really a widely used tool, I have no idea why you think it's a last resort kind of thing. Really not addressing it and hoping it blows over is frightfully common (just look at America for the past 10 months).
"Not making death threats is definitely supportive/caring"
Jeeze, I don't know where you live where the perception is such, but I know that I wouldn't want to be part of that society where such a thing is even considered as a sign of "support". The normal society is well past that point, I hope.
...which also helps and insinuates that others should move on as well. (If he moves on, his fan may as well. If he cares too much they will too and keep harassing the woman).By putting himself into that post he actually is saying "I am moving on", so, the post is not really about her, but about himself. The fact that he didn't care to point at the real problem with the "community" shows how much he "cares" about what is happening to her.
Ok. Here's what people would say to a variety of his responses:You should do less condescending and more thoughtfulness. I said that it goes without saying that death threats shouldn't even be on the agenda, so whatever Djokovic is "supporting" it is not the "elimination" of something that is appalling, no comments needed. The very idea that he might be addressing such an issue with the words "to show support" is ridiculous.
You make the claim that these are two very different things. I disagree. Caring and support mean being civil. Civility is not death threats. It was an example and clearly went over your head.If you think about death threats when your mother calls for you to support your brother there is something very wrong with you, regardless of whether you think about sending him such or not sending him such. Same with Djokovic and his call for support.
Yeah, they do. There were a lot of things that happened in a lot of political campaigns that just blew over because no one addressed them. I've been following news pretty closely, bud.I don't know that you mean by "America for the past 10 months", but if that is some implication that there things that are not addressed get blown over, I think you haven't been paying attention.
Atm they're not frustrated but rather overjoyed by having stones to throw Djokovic with.So many frustrated Fedal fans. Sad!
Ok. Here's what people would say to a variety of his responses:
There is a language you use to keep yourself from taking too strong a stance on either side. This was a small disapproval of his supporters. I wish he'd gone further, but this is a milquetoast strategy and it's plenty well worded to make every credible news outlet understand. Why can't you?
- "Please stop sending death threats to this woman. It is the last thing I want." -> "Djokovic didn't say to stop harassing her in general! Clearly he wants his trolls to keep doing it!"
- "Stop harassing this woman, period. Do not message her, do not try to find her, do not give out her personal information. If you've already done so, delete those posts and do not do it in the future." -> "Novak isn't calling for the trolls to apologize to this woman!"
- "Stop harassing this woman, but only after you apologize to her." -> "Novak isn't leaving this poor woman alone!"
You make the claim that these are two very different things. I disagree. Caring and support mean being civil. Civility is not death threats. It was an example and clearly went over your head.
You make the claim that these are two very different things. I disagree. Caring and supportYeah, they do. There were a lot of things that happened in a lot of political campaigns that just blew over because no one addressed them. I've been following news pretty closely, bud.
Well he could have said nothing. Obviously he could have probably condemned those morons that are sending threats more effectively, but this is definitely saying "don't do bad **** to this lineswoman."
Of course not. He made a statement that I wish would have gone as far as condemning the death threats. But it definitely is better than nothing. I'd want him to do more, but I'm not claiming that this was in any way a negative post or tacitly supporting what his fans have done.leadership at its finest? by Novak and his fans standard?
Djoker has to be diplomatic.
He cannot say, "Stop making death threats and harassing this woman online".
Instead, he tells people to be supportive of her.
Get it now?
Instead of being such an annoying do-nothing whiny malcontent, why don't you put your trolling skills to good use and write the Instagram statement that you would have liked to have seen from Djoker.
Here is your big chance to be Djoker's PR manager.
Go ahead. Do it. Write the alternate 10 line statement. We can wait.