Lleytonstation
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Has another 165 for Thiem. So 800 point lead to be exact. So it it likely to come down to Rome and FO results.
Novak is in front of his idol... 291 weeks guaranteed...Next hurdle Federer...
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RF-18
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What you mean last years points? YE#1 is always determined based on points you collected during the year. Has nothing to do with previous years points.
Lleytonstation
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Yes. We just did the math. Djoker up 800 points on Thiem.
Tennis_Freak99
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You forgot Dubai and ATP cup
Street
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Are federer's stats inflated?
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A poster in the previous page did a break down and basically Thiem has to win RG and Hamburg to even be considered as a threat, of course based on that djokovic goes very far. Not playing Rome hurts his chances alot.
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BeatlesFan
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That would be bizarre since if that happens, Novak is breaking someone else’s record. Pete showed up to 2009 Wimbledon to watch Fed break his own slam record of 14 majors. He wouldn’t have showed up had Fed been challenging the record of someone else.
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His AO win is worth 7000 points. Because
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Machi, you're forgetting one thing ... Sampras is Djokovic's idol and Djokovic is a world famous personality who has publicly stated that he looks up to Sampras! Considering that, Sampras should congratulate Djokovic when he breaks Federer's most important records, simple as that!
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Raiden
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How does that beating Fed and helping Nadal stack up against the times that Djokovic helped Federer by beating Nadal at slams?
Has someone make a total appraisal of both and counted the defecit — whether Djoko has more harmed Roger (more often prevented Roger from distancing from Nadal) or more helped Roger (slowed down Nadal from catching)?
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YE #1 this year is worthless because there's a locked down for half of the year due to Covid-19. Same with weeks at #1.
Street
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Why would someone congratulating a player for breaking a record be bizzare lol? I mean, aren't all time greats already congratulating players for breaking records which have nothing to do with them when they're e.g. commentating a match. It would be like agassi/mcenroe congratulating nadal on breaking the slam record and there would be nothing bizzare about that imo.
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Lleytonstation
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Or, just look at OP
Honestly, I discussed be YE#1 in ATP Ranking, so keeping points from 2019 tournament.
They are discussing YE#1 if it will be awarded using only 2020 points. In this case it's an open competition. Nadal is way behind(Didn't play USO, QF at AO).
Nole has 800 points lead against Thiem, with at least 5500 points avaible(Rome, RG, Paris, WTF).
I don't think they can award YE#1 without using 2019 points too. Because Year End #1 is the #1 player of the ranking at the end of the year.
And it's possible(And not highly unlikely) that Thiem can be the player who will win most point in 2020. But this, probably, will note enough to surpass Djokovic in ATP Rankings, thanks to Nole 2019 points, like Wimbledon, he will keep going into 2021. It's possible he can be #3 after Nadal too, despite winning more points in 2020 than him.
I don't think they will give a YE#1 award to a player who isn't the ranking #1 at the end of the year, and has a #3 as best ranking.
Sure, usually only points made in the year counts for YE#1, but this is because not points from previous year counted in ranking at the end of the year.
This is, clearly a big mess. There isn't something clear about it in ATP rulebook, the only thing I found is that:
From: ATP Site
If this is confirmed, 2019 points(Not ones before freezing obviously) have to be counted in order to assing 2020 YE#1, because they counts in ATP Rankings.
Another clue this is the same idea ATP has in his mind is that 2019 points counts in order to qualify for 2020 ATP Finals, so it's likely they will count in order to assing YE#1.
So, use 2019 points seems logical. But I can't put my finger on it.
I don't think anyone should care because every past year end #1 were played a FULL season and that's what truly count.
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