Novak is the most admirable athlete in the world today

Rattie

Legend
@Lauren_Girl expressed it for me:
So he went out of his way to get a PCR when he had no symptoms. Who does that? Why would you? And he didn’t bother looking at the positive result that was communicated with him prior to the meeting, he just did a lateral flow which was negative. Honestly, people buy this?
Following that photo session he continued mixing. Let’s not forget the Adria tour either right in the middle of the pandemic where he showed total disregard for restrictions and was happy to party but of course that’s fine too.
 

Enceladus

Legend
Exactly, with your answer Joker fans have no right to criticize or put any silly asterisk on the Australian Open 2022 champion or those who participated in it.
Each person makes a decision and he/she must bear the consequences even if he/she doesn't like it.
:D
There is a significant difference between the situation of the Russians at Wimbledon and Djokovic at AO: Djokovic is a 9-time AO champion, while none of the current Russian tennis players (I speak about male singles) have ever advanced to SF Wimbledon. And only Khakhanov once achieved QF participation. So while the ban of the Russians in Wimbledon was a bigger quantitative hit into sports competition, deporting Djokovic from Australia was a bigger qualitative hit.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
There is a significant difference between the situation of the Russians at Wimbledon and Djokovic at AO: Djokovic is a 9-time AO champion, while none of the current Russian tennis players (I speak about male singles) have ever advanced to SF Wimbledon. And only Khakhanov once achieved QF participation. So while the ban of the Russians in Wimbledon was a bigger quantitative hit into sports competition, deporting Djokovic from Australia was a bigger qualitative hit.
You're going superfluous, we all know here what you detail, that from the most linear point of view is understood, but in the end we are talking about players being prevented from participating for not complying with certain requirements that many (rightly or wrongly) find discriminatory, illegal, authoritarian and unsportsmanlike, which obviously goes against the essence of sport.
That is the main crux of the matter, the core of the problem, we cannot unequivocally criticize somewhere because our favorite player has been affected, and on the other, look sideways, that favorite player says "that he does not agree with the decision made by the tournament" but at the same time, participate in it as if absolutely nothing had happened and maintain a moral composure free from criticism.
It doesn't work like that, and we should see the big picture of what is happening with a sports discipline, that is being sullied by decisions that undermine fair play and threaten a free society with values, a fundamental base and inspiration for future generations.
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The only way I could see arguing that is if you argue his standing up for peoples rights on vaccines is that honorable a thing. Personally I think it as a stupid self sabotoge of his own career for a brief period to just avoid taking a shot that has only 0.0000001% of causing the slightest damage to him.

perhaps you’re being hyperbolic, but the percentage of adverse events, although not specifically known, is higher than that.
 
Admirable is certainly the wrong word. You can see by the comments that there is quite a large number that doesn’t admire him. It’s more like courage. I think he’s the most, or one of the most, courageous athletes of the day. His principled stance is really costing him a lot, and he’s not changing, which is courageous by definition.
 

martinezownsclay

Hall of Fame
perhaps you’re being hyperbolic, but the percentage of adverse events, although not specifically known, is higher than that.

Of course I am being hyperbolic but Djokovic is someone who caught Covid and wasn't affected hardly any, so guarantee he is not someone who couldn't handle one vaccine shot (the extremely rare people really affected by the vaccine I hear of are weak bodied people who would be hard pressed to even survive Covid had they got it). There is more chance of him winning the Powerball lottery than something bad happening to him. Of course the fact he caught Covid and was barely even sick, is probably why he isn't worried and is adament about not even getting the vaccine, but it would be simple to do just to go on playing and worth it. He isn't even popular enough to give a political statement if that is what he is trying to do, nobody but tennis nuts know squat about him. He isn't a Federer, Williams, Sharapova or even Nadal in that sense.
 

bigbadboaz

Semi-Pro
"Courage" carries the utmost positive connotation and pretty much assumes admiration. Djokovic's actions more evoke "stubborn", "bull-headed", and "self-sabotaging". All are in line with what he's cost himself and ought to be perceived.
 

norcal

Legend
Maybe in OP's opinion but I imagine in a worldwide poll on the subject Novak would not crack the top 100...or 1,000 admirable athletes.

Heck even on a tennis message board I doubt he would be top 5.
He probably is the most admirable athlete among Djokovic fans though, gotta give OP that win.

I do find OP's admiration of Joker admirable though.

He isn't even popular enough to give a political statement if that is what he is trying to do, nobody but tennis nuts know squat about him.

^^ pretty much that
 
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TheNachoMan

Guest
He’s my GOAT even if Nadal wins more slams. More big titles, and what he has done despite the hatred he gets is inspiring. Doesn’t bow to the mob.
 

ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
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Obviously you could easily parse through the collection of his hysterical moments yourself. Not sure what you thought you were doing while pretending to be clueless as to what I was talking about. Djokovic's behavior on the court is well documented and quite often it hasn't been normal.


I mean, people need to STAHP bringing this up. He has changed and grown....in the last several months...even though it is getting even worse than when he was younger.

But yeah...total gem right now...until he isn't again.
 

FranzS

Semi-Pro
I'm sick of all these threads praising Djokovic for his stubborness. Despite being a well-educated man elsewhere, I guess he should question some of his silly beliefs. Wonder if he will come out as a flat-earther sooner or later.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
what an absolutely lolworthy comparison

it’s like the Rosa Parks thread someone made earlier this year

you’re not seriously gonna compare anti-Vietnam War activism (which was completely justified with antivax beliefs, right?

Exactly. Name a historical moment where the people opposing public health and vaccines were vindicated? Protesting war is noble as there is so little good that ever comes from armed conflict. Protesting health measures is ludicrous. Ali was trying to save lives. Djokovicaligned himself with a group trying to end lives.
 

skaj

Legend
I've always been a fan of Roger's, but for me, Novak is the most admirable sportsman in the world right now, I've learned to appreciate him a lot, for his athletic achievements, but most of all, because I have a lot of respect for men who stand tall and don't give in to media injunctions and popular pressure.

Tennis owes a lot to this man.

You are being sarcastic, right?
 
Exactly. Name a historical moment where the people opposing public health and vaccines were vindicated? Protesting war is noble as there is so little good that ever comes from armed conflict. Protesting health measures is ludicrous. Ali was trying to save lives. Djokovicaligned himself with a group trying to end lives.

Googles “Tuskegee”. Palms face. Tries in vein to argue Tuskegee isn’t about public health.
 
The certainty with which some of you speak is understandable but alarming. Covid has been around less than 3 years and you believe “the science” can accurately inform you of the long term (and short/medium term) risks of an mRna vaccine, a type of vaccine which has NEVER been used widespread in humans. The science might known something related to these vaccines, but the one thing I’m certain of is, as it relates to long term sequella of mrna vaccines, there is more unknown than known.
 

itrium84

Hall of Fame
I've always been a fan of Roger's, but for me, Novak is the most admirable sportsman in the world right now, I've learned to appreciate him a lot, for his athletic achievements, but most of all, because I have a lot of respect for men who stand tall and don't give in to media injunctions and popular pressure.

Tennis owes a lot to this man.
Although his firm stance on vaccination is based on BS pseudoscience and stupid reasons, it's also a sign of moral integrity and deep sense of individual freedom.
It's pretty hard to admire his personality because of his generally weak hippie reasoning, but OTOH - he has so much other positive qualities: Empathy, Integrity, Mental Strength, Athleticism, Goofiness, and so many more.
 

Federev

Legend
I've always been a fan of Roger's, but for me, Novak is the most admirable sportsman in the world right now, I've learned to appreciate him a lot, for his athletic achievements, but most of all, because I have a lot of respect for men who stand tall and don't give in to media injunctions and popular pressure.

Tennis owes a lot to this man.
At least a couple years ago - 2020 or so? - Federer actually DID poll as the most represented athlete in the world:

 
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