Novak was doubted at Paris Olympics

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Steve500

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All this talk that Carlos was gonna win and Novak wouldn’t win gold blah blah blah.

Well the Novak doubters have to eat humble pie. Exactly why some need to slow down on Carlos. Carlos lost fair and square . He wasn’t tired from doubles with Rafa or injuries , Novak on a wonky knee beat him fair and square on clay.

Many in here thought Novak had little chance beating Carlos on his wonky knee.

Carlos didn’t have an off day, Novak was in the zone and the better player on the day. Carlos wasn’t tired or injured …. Many of you doubted Novak and have been proven wrong. Where is your “sorry for doubting you Nole”.
 
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You know everyone knows it

They also know nole first 4/5 months results didn't matter. What mattered was from rg to USO.

Some tried to announce nole dead long before his time was up. But your current post will not change their attitude because they are naysayers. They will now bring up bo3 vs bo5 like Djokovic is some bo3 specialist

Carlos alcaraz is beaten by two next gen players in hard court slams Medvedev and zverev. He won 2 slams on natural surfaces where especially medvedev is lesser player in RG and zverev in wimby.

Yes hard courts especially usopen will bring much more competition for all players not just alcaraz. Alcaraz may even win the title but he is no guarantee or even overwhelming favorite like RG which is specialist surface. Let's see. I like sinner coming from that half but its very long way away.
 
No 'humble pie' needed for just thinking one player was going to win a match. This does rather fit the whole 'fight the machine' victim vibe Nolebots like to go for, though, so the thread at least makes sense.
 
Steve500 said:
All this talk that Carlos was gonna win and Novak wouldn’t win gold blah blah blah.

Well the Novak doubters have to eat humble pie. Exactly why some need to slow down on Carlos. Carlos lost fair and square . He wasn’t tired from doubles with Rafa or injuries , Novak on a wonky knee beat him fair and square on clay.

Many in here thought Novak had little chance beating Carlos on his wonky knee.

Carlos didn’t have an off day, Novak was in the zone and the better player on the day. Carlos wasn’t tired or inured…. Many of you doubted Novak and have been proven wrong. Where is your “sorry for doubting you Nole”.
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1. Very few people were doubting him. Everyone knew how much it meant to him and that he was a favorite.

2. Coming on here gloating and trying to rub his win in everyone's face just makes you look like an idiot.
 
Shaolin said:
1. Very few people were doubting him. Everyone knew how much it meant to him and that he was a favorite.

2. Coming on here gloating and trying to rub his win in everyone's face just makes you look like an idiot.
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This is false

Majority said he has no chance and his draw had Nadal Tsitsipas Zverev and finally rg winner Alcaraz who beat him in Wimbledon.

This is total U turn now.
 
nolefam_2024 said:
This is false

Majority said he has no chance and his draw had Nadal Tsitsipas Zverev and finally rg winner Alcaraz who beat him in Wimbledon.

This is total U turn now.
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People said he had a tough draw but people weren’t saying he had no chance, at least not the majority as you say.
 
Shaolin said:
People said he had a tough draw but people weren’t saying he had no chance.
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I can't go back and point out every single guy now. The general opinion was no one beats raz on clay.

Until the final of course. Once reaching final it became real for naysayers and they started backtracking
 
still needing flowers a month later?

very slurpy, play the tournament in front of you...I guarantee he is
 
djoko was super driven for sure. more than ive seen him all year, and more than we will see him for the rest of the year
 
nolefam_2024 said:
I can't go back and point out every single guy now. The general opinion was no one beats raz on clay.

Until the final of course. Once reaching final it became real for naysayers and they started backtracking
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I was here on the boards at that time and I think most people were giving him a fair shot.

Even if they didnt, Alcaraz deserved to go in as the favorite having just won RG then W, beating Novak in the final in straights.
 
Shaolin said:
I was here on the boards at that time and I think most people were giving him a fair shot.

Even if they didnt, Alcaraz deserved to go in as the favorite having just won RG then W, beating Novak in the final in straights.
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Yes alcaraz was the favorite. I think Novak disrespect is there in 2024 and I have created thread as well.
 
Djokovic had an operation after he pulled out of RG. He got trashed in the Wimbledon final by the same guy he was facing in the final. Hasn‘t won a single tournament all year and hasn‘t beaten a single Top10 player the whole year. Now look at Alcaraz. The guy who won the last 2 slams and was clearly a level above everyone else including Djokovic. Who in their right mind (even hardcore Djokovic fans like myself) wouldn‘t favor Alcaraz in the Olympics? On clay?

Peak Djokovic showed up for one single match. Nobody expected that.
 
nolefam_2024 said:
Yes alcaraz was the favorite. I think Novak disrespect is there in 2024 and I have created thread as well.
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Dude, almost everyone here has accepted him as the undisputed GOAT...most did before the Olympics but now its basically everyone.

What more do you want? Go back in time and start praising him online from 2003 or his junior days?
 
Shaolin said:
Dude, almost everyone here has accepted him as the undisputed GOAT...most did before the Olympics but now its basically everyone.

What more do you want? Go back in time and start praising him online from 2003 or his junior days?
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Sounds like a good idea


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Alcaraz was very heavily favored, as he should be, but Djokovic was honestly given higher of a chance than he by any right should have had, just based on who he was. And look what happened.
 
The oddsmakers and most on TTW predicted a Carlos win because he whipped him in straight sets in the Wimbledon final a few weeks before and Djokovic had knee surgery a couple of months before. They were wrong because Djokovic played great and had a great tiebreaker strategy of being super-aggressive to beat Carlos. A bunch of people were wrong about their prediction on a sporting contest. What do you want to do - sue them?

That is why we watch live sports - because the outcome is not predetermined and we want to see what happens.
 
There was good reason to doubt Djokovic, he was titleless and lost the Wimbledon final in straight sets!
And even in the Olympic final Alcaraz had 8 break points on the Djokovic serve, and the odds are Alcaraz breaks Djokovic when he's got 8 of them...
If you tell me they redo the Olympic final today and Alcaraz has 8 break points again, the odds are Alcaraz converts one or more of those.
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Shaolin said:
Dude, almost everyone here has accepted him as the undisputed GOAT...most did before the Olympics but now its basically everyone.

What more do you want? Go back in time and start praising him online from 2003 or his junior days?
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No
The naysayers who said Djokovic is finished because of Feb to June result, they need to own up now.
 
nolefam_2024 said:
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The naysayers who said Djokovic is finished because of Feb to June result, they need to own up now.
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Carreno Busta beat Djokovic at the Olympics.
Djokovic beat Alcaraz a the Olympics...
Its unlikely Djokovic will win anything on the tour.
Especially not a slam!
 
Bride of Alcaraz said:
There was good reason to doubt Djokovic, he was titleless and lost the Wimbledon final in straight sets!
And even in the Olympic final Alcaraz had 8 break points on the Djokovic serve, and the odds are Alcaraz breaks Djokovic when he's got 8 of them...
If you tell me they redo the Olympic final today and Alcaraz has 8 break points again, the odds are Alcaraz converts one or more of those.
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You make it sound like Alcaraz dominated the match. He didn't. Djokovic finished with 11 extra points. Even if you remove the 2 tie-breaks, Djokovic won more points. Overall Djokovic had break points in more games (4 different games). Alcaraz's 8 break points were all condensed in 2 different games, in the middle of the first set. He was never close to break in any of Djokovic's other 10 serve games. On the other hand Djokovic had 6 break points too. He had a set point at 6-5 in the first set. And 0-40 on Alcaraz's second serve game. Also had the only break point in the second set. He could have won this match 6-3 6-4.
 
Steve500 said:
All this talk that Carlos was gonna win and Novak wouldn’t win gold blah blah blah.

Well the Novak doubters have to eat humble pie. Exactly why some need to slow down on Carlos. Carlos lost fair and square . He wasn’t tired from doubles with Rafa or injuries , Novak on a wonky knee beat him fair and square on clay.

Many in here thought Novak had little chance beating Carlos on his wonky knee.

Carlos didn’t have an off day, Novak was in the zone and the better player on the day. Carlos wasn’t tired or inured…. Many of you doubted Novak and have been proven wrong. Where is your “sorry for doubting you Nole”.
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Shaolin said:
1. Very few people were doubting him. Everyone knew how much it meant to him and that he was a favorite.

2. Coming on here gloating and trying to rub his win in everyone's face just makes you look like an idiot.
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Many thought Carlos would win , regardless how much it meant to Novak . His knee injury brought doubters in here to .
 
There were several logical reasons that many people thought that Alcaraz had one hand on the gold medal before the final was played:
  1. Alcaraz is the 2024 RG champion
  2. Albeit being played on a different surface, Alcaraz destroyed Djokovic in straight sets in the Wimbledon final 3 weeks prior to the Olympics final (mental advantage to Alcaraz)
  3. Djokovic in 2024 was playing like garbage (compared to 2023) leading into the Olympics
  4. Djokovic's knee looked like it would disadvantage him even more on clay against Alcaraz than it did on grass
I thought that Alcaraz would destroy Djokovic in straight sets and Djokovic would be joining Federer with achieving a career Silver slam (instead of joining Agassi, Nadal and Graf with a career Golden Slam).

However I think Alcaraz got too overconfident before the final saying 'I'm going to give the people of Spain what they want - which is the gold', Djokovic definitely would have got wind of that and it fired him up for the final. Memo to Alcaraz - do not give Djokovic any extra motivation prior to you playing against him in a big match because he will make you pay at least 8 times out of 10.

If you compare Djokovic's performances in the Wimbledon and Olympics finals, it's day and night respectively. Djokovic just wanted to win that gold medal so badly (the only missing trophy from completing his trophy cabinet) given he's 37 and I think on this occasion, him being the heavy underdog vs Alcaraz worked in his favour.

In the Olympics final, Djokovic moved and served so well but more importantly, he didn't lose his serve early in the 1st set, the keys to his victory were his clutchness to win his service game at 4-4 in the 1st set saving 5 BPs and then those 3 blistering forehand winners he hit in the 2nd set TB that even someone as quick as Alcaraz was unable to track down. Will never forget the DTL forehand winner he hit on Match Point and his reaction to finally completing his trophy cabinet (after 16 long years). Djokovic deserves everything he has currently achieved in his career - hopefully he wins singles title #100 and his 25th major at the US Open in 2 weeks time (y)
 
Bride of Alcaraz said:
There was good reason to doubt Djokovic, he was titleless and lost the Wimbledon final in straight sets!
And even in the Olympic final Alcaraz had 8 break points on the Djokovic serve, and the odds are Alcaraz breaks Djokovic when he's got 8 of them...
If you tell me they redo the Olympic final today and Alcaraz has 8 break points again, the odds are Alcaraz converts one or more of those.
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But he didn’t win the end
 
Shaolin said:
1. Very few people were doubting him. Everyone knew how much it meant to him and that he was a favorite.

2. Coming on here gloating and trying to rub his win in everyone's face just makes you look like an idiot.
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Shaolin, I say to thee, ol' longtime dweller of thy grand Hamlets of thy famous TT nation, strike NOT your tireless sword
upon thy noble head of a New Member from thy yonder outlands, for HE may become more esteemed with passing time!
 
I thought and still think that Novak after the Wimby final is done winning slams. He may win one more but at this point I’m past doubting Djokovic.
 
Youngheart said:
Shaolin, I say to thee, ol' longtime dweller of thy grand Hamlets of thy famous TT nation, strike NOT your tireless sword
upon thy noble head of a New Member from thy yonder outlands, for HE may become more esteemed with passing time!
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You’re an artist with words Mr. Young.
 
Steve500 said:
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It’s a sim to doubt Novak. Admit it, the doubters got it wrong.
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What about the ones who doubted him at the three Slams this year and got it right? Don’t act like you can predict how Novak does in every tournament. His 2024 has been nothing like his 2023, his 2022 was nothing like his 2021. His 2024 Olympics has been nothing like his previous four Olympics.
 
socallefty said:
What about the ones who doubted him at the three Slams this year and got it right? Don’t act like you can predict how Novak does in every tournament. His 2024 has been nothing like his 2023, his 2022 was nothing like his 2021. His 2024 Olympics has been nothing like his previous four Olympics.
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The doubters made a mistake on Novak at Paris Olympics . They got it wrong, and made a mistake . Not good enough
 
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