Novak's 17 consecutive finals in Grand Slams/Year End/ATP Masters 1000 is insane

[McEnroeisanartist]

Since Federer beat Djokovic at the 2014 Shanghai tournament, Djokovic has reached 17 consecutive finals at Grand Slams/Year End/ATP Masters 1000 tournaments. Note: he skipped 2015 Madrid.

Federer's longest was 12 - 2005 Wimbledon to 2006 Canada. Note: he skipped 2005 Canada, 2005 Madrid Indoor, 2005 Paris, 2006 Hamburg

Nadal's longest was 7 - 2011 Indian Wells to 2011 Wimbledon

 

[xFedal]

Since Federer beat Djokovic at the 2014 Shanghai tournament, Djokovic has reached 17 consecutive finals at Grand Slams/Year End/ATP Masters 1000 tournaments. Note: he skipped 2015 Madrid.

Federer's longest was 11 - 2005 Wimbledon to 2006 Canada. Note: he skipped 2005 Canada, 2005 Madrid Indoor, 2005 Paris, 2006 Hamburg

Nadal's longest was 7 - 2011 Indian Wells to 2011 Wimbledon

What it tells us? That Novak is the bench mark for Consistency.

 

[happyloman]

That's pretty impressive.

 

[MichaelNadal]

And not one drop of sweat.

 

[Djokovic2011]

And not one drop of sweat.

Yep, you really don't watch many of his matches if you truly believe that MN.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Yep, you really don't watch many of his matches if you truly believe that MN.

Lol it took you until March 29th 2016 to believe that? He's not Rafa, there's zero magnetism that compels me to want to. Regardless if he sweats or not, we can practically pencil him into the rest of the finals for the rest of the year so why lose sleep to watch?

 

[Tarkovsky]

...Federer's longest was 11 - 2005 Wimbledon to 2006 Canada. Note: he skipped 2005 Canada, 2005 Madrid Indoor, 2005 Paris, 2006 Hamburg...

I calculated 12 for Federer. Maybe I'm wrong.

 

[Chanwan]

Since Federer beat Djokovic at the 2014 Shanghai tournament, Djokovic has reached 17 consecutive finals at Grand Slams/Year End/ATP Masters 1000 tournaments. Note: he skipped 2015 Madrid.

Federer's longest was 11 - 2005 Wimbledon to 2006 Canada. Note: he skipped 2005 Canada, 2005 Madrid Indoor, 2005 Paris, 2006 Hamburg

Nadal's longest was 7 - 2011 Indian Wells to 2011 Wimbledon

What's this, a thread from you, where Federer doesn't come out on top?
The world is a strange place today

 

[NatF]

Skipping a tournament should break the streak...

 

[Chanwan]

Skipping a tournament should break the streak...

Are you telling me Rafa didn't make 5 straight Wimbledon finals???

 

[Djokovic2011]

Skipping a tournament should break the streak...

Oh come on mate, it was only the one Masters tournament(and the worst one at that ).

 

[NatF]

Are you telling me Rafa didn't make 5 straight Wimbledon finals???

Sorry to tell you mate but Rafa only made 3 straight Wimbledon finals.

 

[NatF]

Oh come on mate, it was only the one Masters tournament(and the worst one at that ).

Yep, Madrid is the ginger step child of the masters but it still breaks the streak as far as I'm concerned. Even starting from Rome Djokovic's streak is way longer than any of Federer's anyway.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

Skipping a tournament should break the streak...

Agree with you, no matter how much I like Novak but skipping a tournament should not count in streak.
What If Novak skipped RG 15 , this means AO 15 to AO 16 nole slam?

 

[Levi_Ackerman]

Sorry to tell you mate but Rafa only made 3 straight Wimbledon finals.

Actually, @Chanwan is right. Rafa did make 5 straight Wimbledon finals. Sorry to tell you mate. Let's count them out, shall we?

2006: Final
2007: Final
2008: Final
2009: did not play
2010: Final
2011: Final

That's 5 straight Wimbledon finals for Rafa.

You've just been fact-checked, sucka!

How did you even make this mistake, Nat?

 

[NatF]

Actually, @Chanwan is right. Rafa did make 5 straight Wimbledon finals. Sorry to tell you mate. Let's count them out, shall we?

2006: Final
2007: Final
2008: Final
2009: did not play
2010: Final
2011: Final

That's 5 straight Wimbledon finals for Rafa.

You've just been fact-checked, sucka!

How did you even make this mistake, Nat?

Let me make that bigger for you.

2009: did not play

 

[ArcspacE]

Skipping a tournament should break the streak...

lol - wut?

 

[NatF]

lol - wut?

If Murray and Nadal were in the final of Madrid 2015 how could Djokovic have been in 17 straight Slam, YEC AND masters finals?

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

If Murray and Nadal were in the final of Madrid 2015 how could Djokovic have been in 17 straight Slam, YEC AND masters finals?

There is a difference between skipping a tournament (in this case everyone has the right to skip at least one) and participating but failing to reach a final.

 

[NatF]

There is a difference between skipping a tournament (in this case everyone has the right to skip at least one) and participating but failing to reach a final.

There's no difference in terms of reaching consecutive finals. He was either in the final or he wasn't. It's hugely impressive to me that Djokovic has reached the final of every big event he participated at. But I disagree with the terminology. Likewise Federer's so called 11 in the OP is not a consecutive streak as he broke it over and over by skipping several masters. The OP obviously meant those in which they played, but only attaching a small note referencing those skipped demeans the exercise. It is significantly that Federer skipped 4 masters in between those 11, missing Madrid is less significant you can't call it consecutive.

 

[ArcspacE]

If Murray and Nadal were in the final of Madrid 2015 how could Djokovic have been in 17 straight Slam, YEC AND masters finals?

He didn't participate in the event - therefore it cannot be counted

Simples

 

[NatF]

He didn't participate in the event - therefore it cannot be counted

Simples

That's what I'm saying...it cannot be counted so he has a streak from Shanghai 14 to MC 15 and another from Rome 15 that is ongoing.

 

[ArcspacE]

That's what I'm saying...it cannot be counted so he has a streak from Shanghai 14 to MC 15 and another from Rome 15 that is ongoing.

Wrong - it cannot be counted as 'lost' as he never participated

I didn't participate in it either so cannot be considered to have broken a streak

WTF dude, you look too old in your profile pic to be a troll

 

[tennisaddict]

There is a difference between skipping a tournament (in this case everyone has the right to skip at least one) and participating but failing to reach a final.

None, Nada, Zilch.

 

[tennisaddict]

If Sampras enters and wins USO 2016, will he have a streak going ?

 

[NatF]

Wrong - it cannot be counted as 'lost' as he never participated

I didn't participate in it either so cannot be considered to have broken a streak

WTF dude, you look too old in your profile pic to be a troll

I didn't say it counted as a loss. Just that he didn't continue a streak of consecutive tournament finals.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

There's no difference in terms of reaching consecutive finals. He was either in the final or he wasn't. It's hugely impressive to me that Djokovic has reached the final of every big event he participated at. But I disagree with the terminology. Likewise Federer's so called 11 in the OP is not a consecutive streak as he broke it over and over by skipping several masters. The OP obviously meant those in which they played, but only attaching a small note referencing those skipped demeans the exercise. It is significantly that Federer skipped 4 masters in between those 11, missing Madrid is less significant you can't call it consecutive.

I guess that is another, harsher way to look at it. He did make 17 consecutive final appearances (as in when he appeared) and that is usually the way to look at streaks. The fact it is only usually and not always the case is creating some confusions.

None, Nada, Zilch.

It is obvious there is.

 

[NatF]

I guess that is another, harsher way to look at it. He did make 17 consecutive final appearances (as in when he appeared) and that is usually the way to look at streaks. The fact it is only usually and not always the case is creating some confusions.

It's the way people on here tend to look at it - mostly for the purpose of making player 'A' look better. It's still crazy impressive and missing Madrid doesn't dent how impressive Novak's consistency has been to me. I just disagree with the way it's being framed.

 

[mellowyellow]

That's how all streaks are recorded, by the player, not the tournament schedule....

 

[NatF]

That's how all streaks are recorded, by the player, not the tournament schedule....

Consecutive. Do you know what the word means? What tournament came consecutively after Monte Carlo? I'll give you a clue, Djokovic wasn't there.

I suppose you think Federer was in 11 consecutive finals too despite missing 4 throughout the streak

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[nolefam_2024]

This is very stupid if anyone thinks skipping tournament should break the streak. Who won that tournament? A guy who had won nothing just till last week.
Novak has most ridiculous finals streak based on the tournaments he played and it is going to stay that way.
Rest is just overthinking.

 

[nolefam_2024]

WTF dude, you look too old in your profile pic to be a troll

Exactly.

 

[uscwang]

So in essence, since the birth of his son, Novak has reached the finals of ALL tier 1 tournaments that he played in.
And the rest of the field shared the other half of the final spots, which is out of Novak's control.

 

[mellowyellow]

Consecutive. Do you know what the word means? What tournament came consecutively after Monte Carlo? I'll give you a clue, Djokovic wasn't there.

I suppose you think Federer was in 11 consecutive finals too despite missing 4 throughout the streak

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wtf are you talking about? It's simply how records are kept, Nadal has a bunch of clay streaks too that would be less. Like I said it's by the PLAYER not the SCHEDULE... your being narrow minded, tournaments were not always mandatory in the open era like now.

 

[nolefam_2024]

17 would remain 17, skipped tournament or not. 17 consecutive tournaments, Novak was in finals.
Containing 5 slams, 8 masters, other big events. So, rest of the stats are pointless. Best in best.

 

[Sysyphus]

I'm looking forward to watching Pennetta make a comeback in some years' time to win her second consecutive US Open title. Sampras may win his second consecutive USO once he makes a comeback this year as well.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Troll

 

[Djokovic2011]

Even if we discount Madrid, Novak still has an ongoing streak of 12 consecutive finals at Masters level and above, which is only six less than Lendl's all time record which I'd imagine included a lot of 250 equivalent tournaments. Extremely impressive consistency whichever way you look at it.

 

[Levi_Ackerman]

Did Monika win 4 consecutive AOs?

Why don't you tell me? And whilst you're at it, please also tell me in which round of the Wimbledon 2009 championship Rafa was knocked out?

Let me make that bigger for you.

2009: did not play

If you say so.

I infer from Chanwan's original post that he meant "Nadal reached the finals of all five of the Wimbledon championships that he competed in between 2006-2011". He so happened not to have competed in the Wimbledon 2009. That doesn't however render the statement "Rafa reached five straight Wimbledon finals" untrue. After all, it would be unfair to add a tournament in which he did not compete to his career stats now, wouldn't it?

 

[nolefam_2024]

Fed did not lose to Djokovic at WTF 14, same way Djokovic did not lose in Madrid. 17.

 

[NatF]

wtf are you talking about? It's simply how records are kept, Nadal has a bunch of clay streaks too that would be less. Like I said it's by the PLAYER not the SCHEDULE... your being narrow minded, tournaments were not always mandatory in the open era like now.

Narrow minded? Interesting.

Obviously we have different interpretations of the word consecutive. I go by the dictionary and you go by whatever the hell you want

Source to show this is how records are kept. Try to refrain from using wikipedia.

I infer from Chanwan's original post that he meant "Nadal reached the finals of all five of the Wimbledon championships that he competed in between 2006-2011". He so happened not to have competed in the Wimbledon 2009. That doesn't however render the statement "Rafa reached five straight Wimbledon finals" untrue. After all, it would be unfair to add a tournament in which he did not compete to his career stats now, wouldn't it?

Yes that would be correct, when Rafa played he made the final. But for me 5 straight finals means reaching the final in 5 actually consecutive years. Nothing to do with losses for me but you can't be in the final if you don't enter.

Not that big a deal.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

You tell me.

Whilst you're at it, please also tell me in which round of the Wimbledon 2009 championship Rafa was knocked out?

If you say so.

I infer from Chanwan's original post that he meant "Nadal reached the finals of all five of the Wimbledon championships that he competed in between 2006-2011". He so happened not to have competed in the Wimbledon 2009. That doesn't however render the statement "Rafa reached five straight Wimbledon finals untrue". After all, it would be unfair to add a tournament in which he did not compete to his career stats now, wouldn't it?

She did win 4 consecutive times when she participated (91, 92, 93, 96), while not playing in 94 and 95. Rafa has a similar case, he had 5 consecutive Wimbledon final participations (as in when he participated). Your choice if you want to end the streak because of skipping an event or not, I usually tend not to end it. Was just asking you about Monika to see what would your answer be.

 

[TheMaestro1990]

People say Federer played in a weak era, but 2015 was just insanely poor. Wawrinka showed up and played his best tournament in the later stages of one (!) tournament, while Federer, still great, can't keep the consistency in best of five matches like he could in his prime.

During Federer's greatest years he still had to contend with high capable players like Safin, Nalbandian, Davydenko (FO 2007 semifinal), to some degree Hewitt and of course peak Nadal on clay...

How is that comparing with 2015 years Berdych, Ferrer, Murray and 1 tournament week hot Wawrinka?

Djokovic's streak is insane, and he should get all credit for it, but why the need to compare it with Federer's lesser streak giving the circumstances? It's all about context. For example, Federer was 92-5 in 2006. 4 of those losses came to Nadal. If Federer had been playing the Nadal of 2015 he would have gone 96-1 and have had the calender Grand Slam, just saying.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Say weak era = lose credibility.

You are great at making videos. Stick to it.

 

[Levi_Ackerman]

Yes that would be correct, when Rafa played he made the final. But for me 5 straight finals means reaching the final in 5 actually consecutive years. Nothing to do with losses for me but you can't be in the final if you don't enter.

Not that big a deal.

Fair enough. And I concur; it's not that big a deal. Besides, I'm pretty sure we all know what Chanwan meant. It's just a bit of semantics.

Also, what's with the driveby at Wikipedia? Why do people knock that website, as if the information on it is useless?

 

[mellowyellow]

Your comparing/confusing TOURNAMENT HISTORY RECORDS with PLAYER RECORDS. Player records are based on tournaments ENTERED only. CONSECUTIVE in the context of the player, any player this record is correct, as is Nadals clay match streak...

 

[Levi_Ackerman]

She did win 4 consecutive times when she participated (91, 92, 93, 96), while not playing in 94 and 95. Rafa has a similar case, he had 5 consecutive Wimbledon final participations (as in when he participated). Your choice if you want to end the streak because of skipping an event or not, I usually tend not to end it. Was just asking you about Monika to see what would your answer be.

Fair enough. Besides, I didn't have that information to hand. I mean, I could have looked it up, but I honestly didn't know how many AO Monica or Monika (which spelling is it?) won and how many were or were not consecutive.

 

[Djokovic2011]

People say Federer played in a weak era, but 2015 was just insanely poor. Wawrinka showed up and played his best tournament in the later stages of one (!) tournament, while Federer, still great, can't keep the consistency in best of five matches like he could in his prime.

During Federer's greatest years he still had to contend with high capable players like Safin, Nalbandian, Davydenko (FO 2007 semifinal), to some degree Hewitt and of course peak Nadal on clay...

How is that comparing with 2015 years Berdych, Ferrer, Murray and 1 tournament week hot Wawrinka?

Djokovic's streak is insane, and he should get all credit for it, but why the need to compare it with Federer's lesser streak giving the circumstances? It's all about context. For example, Federer was 92-5 in 2006. 4 of those losses came to Nadal. If Federer had been playing the Nadal of 2015 he would have gone 96-1 and have had the calender Grand Slam, just saying.

I doubt Federer would've achieved the CYGS in 2015 with Djokovic's competition either. Something along the way would've happened to stop him - there's a reason it hasn't been done in almost half a century.

 

[mellowyellow]

Fair enough. And I concur; it's not that big a deal. Besides, I'm pretty sure we all know what Chanwan meant. It's just a bit of semantics.

Also, what's with the driveby at Wikipedia? Why do people knock that website, as if the information on it is useless?

It's a Trolls way of being difficult and trying to control an argument that really isn't a argument to begin with. This isn't something new, it applies to all players equally. It was certainly being used before Djoko hit the scene...

 

[NatF]

Fair enough. And I concur; it's not that big a deal. Besides, I'm pretty sure we all know what Chanwan meant. It's just a bit of semantics.

Also, what's with the driveby at Wikipedia? Why do people knock that website, as if the information on it is useless?

Wikipedia is really useful but it can edited by a lot of people. So for something that's not factual e.g player A wins Y in year XXXX, I don't think it's good.