Novak's Head Graphene XT pj

NikeUp

Rookie
Hi,

Here are pics of Novaks 2015 frame. It's obviously identical in specs to his previous frames. Just a new cosmetic.

(Strings aren't his, it was restrung with bab gut and blue Alu power and over grip was changed to head tourna grip).


Enjoy the pics,

Nikeup







 

MattCrosby

Professional
Good pics mate.

Just a note, if this is your frame why cut the strings out, the original would be worth some money in the future
 

LapsedNoob

Professional
Good pics mate.

Just a note, if this is your frame why cut the strings out, the original would be worth some money in the future
He said the strings are overgrip were changed from what Djokovic would've had bur didn't say it was him who did it.
 
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Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
interesting lead placement.
so i don't get it..
is this a Radical underneath? (or whatever he really uses)
 

Numero Uno

Semi-Pro
Hi,

Here are pics of Novaks 2015 frame. It's obviously identical in specs to his previous frames. Just a new cosmetic.

(Strings aren't his, it was restrung with bab gut and blue Alu power and over grip was changed to head tourna grip).


Enjoy the pics,

Nikeup







What are the specs? thanks for sharing
 

NikeUp

Rookie
I personally don't use these frames I just string them! but the person who does has quite a few of these frames, (not for sale! [emoji6]) so he changes the strings and grips regularly enough.

There are plenty of threads stating novaks specs. I will post them tomorrow.

I also have photos of a last years frame of Novaks I've partially sanded down revealing the paint below. Tomorrow all will be revealed.

NikeUp
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
What are the specs? thanks for sharing
PT113B1. Same mold as i.Radical MP (PT113A).
strung Weight: 359g
Strung balance: 32.8cm
SW: 370
Flex: 60RA strung
Grip: 4 3/8, custom with side bevels extended making it more rectangular. Uses two overgrips over Head Calfskin. First overgrip wrapped with no overlapping, top overgrip normal.

Lead placement all around the hoop, under the grommets then continues inside the hoop as shown on pictures.

Anything else?
 

NikeUp

Rookie
PT113B1. Same mold as i.Radical MP (PT113A).
strung Weight: 359g
Strung balance: 32.8cm
SW: 370
Flex: 60RA strung
Grip: 4 3/8, custom with side bevels extended making it more rectangular. Uses two overgrips over Head Calfskin. First overgrip wrapped with no overlapping, top overgrip normal.

Lead placement all around the hoop, under the grommets then continues inside the hoop as shown on pictures.

Anything else?

Thanks for that. Save me the time to have to write it out.


Novak usually uses 27kg mains (Gut) and 27.5kg crosses (Alu) but it varies obviously.
 

NikeUp

Rookie
Here you can see whats below the leather grip.

As you can see i shaved away a little of the paint and it clearly has the paint of the flexpoint radical "Power In Control" underneath the Graphene IG pj and blue primer.

Why? Anyones guess....

NikeUp





 

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
Here you can see whats below the leather grip.

As you can see i shaved away a little of the paint and it clearly has the paint of the flexpoint radical "Power In Control" underneath the Graphene IG pj and blue primer.

Why? Anyones guess....

NikeUp

LOL
this is fascinating and frankly quite ridiculous!
why does NOVAK DJOKOVIC needs an old Radical PJ underneath the new Graphene??
why can't it be a black Radical mold underneath???
very weird...

thanks for this. amazing.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
LOL
this is fascinating and frankly quite ridiculous!
why does NOVAK DJOKOVIC needs an old Radical PJ underneath the new Graphene??
why can't it be a black Radical mold underneath???
very weird...

thanks for this. amazing.
You're confused to what a mold is.
The reason why there is FXP Radical cosmetics underneath is because Djokovic's racquets are TwinTube. With the TwinTube process cosmetics are already on the polymide material.
 

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
You're confused to what a mold is.
The reason why there is FXP Radical cosmetics underneath is because Djokovic's racquets are TwinTube. With the TwinTube process cosmetics are already on the polymide material.
so indeed i'm confused :confused:

can you explain a TWINTUBE?
or link me to a good read on that?
 

T21D

Semi-Pro
Here you can see whats below the leather grip.

As you can see i shaved away a little of the paint and it clearly has the paint of the flexpoint radical "Power In Control" underneath the Graphene IG pj and blue primer.

Why? Anyones guess....

NikeUp





wow!!!!! thanks for the awesome pictorial!
 

Fed Kennedy

Legend
Why? That's a pretty significant lead weight on the handle. If you take off the butt cap you're going to just be disappointed. Having a little silicone in the handle can feel good but filling an entire racquet with one doesn't.
just want to gawk at jokers setup bruh
 

RanchDressing

Hall of Fame
Very cool posts! Thanks op for dissecting that one.

People forget that at the end of the day these are just racquets. If you have access to more than one of his, then this really isn't a big deal.

As for specs I'd be seriously surprised if it's any different than his old spec. He's been using basically the same thing since before his Wilson days.

I've been setting up an MG radical to be 13.4oz 350sw (some silly balance I haven't measured yet lol) unstrung. The player who's using it is 6'9", and he wants to push what he can use lol.
 

sixone90

Professional
As for specs I'd be seriously surprised if it's any different than his old spec. He's been using basically the same thing since before his Wilson days.
I've spoken to some people from Head who are responsible for dealing with the player's racquets and I don't know if his specs are different but the racquet is definitely different from the one he used before he switched to Wilson
 

RanchDressing

Hall of Fame
I've spoken to some people from Head who are responsible for dealing with the player's racquets and I don't know if his specs are different but the racquet is definitely different from the one he used before he switched to Wilson
The frame is different yes, but the specs are very similar or the same. ~370sw 359 grams 32.8 balance. Very minor differences if any at all. Specs make the biggest difference in how a frame plays. Flex is mainly feel, and doesn't make as big of a difference in power as people on here make it out. Stiffer frames actually cause more ball deformation more than anything else.

Besides that, Novak has been quoted as saying his frame at wilson was a replica of what he played with at head, which was endorsed as a LM radical.
 

6august

Hall of Fame
You're confused to what a mold is.
The reason why there is FXP Radical cosmetics underneath is because Djokovic's racquets are TwinTube. With the TwinTube process cosmetics are already on the polymide material.
Still don't understand. As far as i know, a Head "twintube" racquet is made by 2 layers, inner layer is stiff graphite and outer layer is soft polymide. Why cosmetic must already be on the polymide? Can't it be sprayed later?

From what you've said, my imagination is Novak's racquets are built from old twintube racquets and when those sticks are gone, he'll have to switch to another stick?
 

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
Still don't understand. As far as i know, a Head "twintube" racquet is made by 2 layers, inner layer is stiff graphite and outer layer is soft polymide. Why cosmetic must already be on the polymide? Can't it be sprayed later?

From what you've said, my imagination is Novak's racquets are built from old twintube racquets and when those sticks are gone, he'll have to switch to another stick?
yea, that's what i was wondering also.
 

RanchDressing

Hall of Fame
Still don't understand. As far as i know, a Head "twintube" racquet is made by 2 layers, inner layer is stiff graphite and outer layer is soft polymide. Why cosmetic must already be on the polymide? Can't it be sprayed later?

From what you've said, my imagination is Novak's racquets are built from old twintube racquets and when those sticks are gone, he'll have to switch to another stick?
I promise you head will never let him run out :roll::D
 

6august

Hall of Fame
First, Wilson can't give Del Potro the K-Factors 95 he desires. Now, Head have to re-paint their old Flexpoint Radical sticks and send to Djokovic. As mysterious as the Salamanca astronaut or the Angkor Wat dinosaur.
 

LapsedNoob

Professional
First, Wilson can't give Del Potro the K-Factors 95 he desires. Now, Head have to re-paint their old Flexpoint Radical sticks and send to Djokovic. As mysterious as the Salamanca astronaut or the Angkor Wat dinosaur.
And? Painjobs what now?
 

Hankenstein

Hall of Fame
Guys, the twintube-frames are made like this:

First they make a normal "roll" of the graphite/kevlar. It means they have many different pre-cut sheets of material thats placed on a plastic roll to form the base of the frame. When the material is placed its rolled up in a machine to a long tube and the interior plastic tube is removed.

The "twin tube" is a sheet of thin plastic that is pre-painted with some old design and this sheet is placed on top of the graphite/kevlar roll. Then it´s all baked togheter in the oven. (My memory is not 100 % accurate,so it could be they first bake the graphite/kevlar roll and then heat and melt the plastic sheet on top of the raw frame. Dont remember unfortunately. Will listen with a friend that also saw this process.

That´s why it looks like some frames have an old PJ. It guess if you sand down 100 of Novak´s frames they will have many different designed Twintube sheets. It has nothing to do with what frame it "used" to be in the past.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Guys, the twintube-frames are made like this:

First they make a normal "roll" of the graphite/kevlar. It means they have many different pre-cut sheets of material thats placed on a plastic roll to form the base of the frame. When the material is placed its rolled up in a machine to a long tube and the interior plastic tube is removed.

The "twin tube" is a sheet of thin plastic that is pre-painted with some old design and this sheet is placed on top of the graphite/kevlar roll. Then it´s all baked togheter in the oven. (My memory is not 100 % accurate,so it could be they first bake the graphite/kevlar roll and then heat and melt the plastic sheet on top of the raw frame. Dont remember unfortunately. Will listen with a friend that also saw this process.

That´s why it looks like some frames have an old PJ. It guess if you sand down 100 of Novak´s frames they will have many different designed Twintube sheets. It has nothing to do with what frame it "used" to be in the past.
They bake it all together.
 

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
Guys, the twintube-frames are made like this:

First they make a normal "roll" of the graphite/kevlar. It means they have many different pre-cut sheets of material thats placed on a plastic roll to form the base of the frame. When the material is placed its rolled up in a machine to a long tube and the interior plastic tube is removed.

The "twin tube" is a sheet of thin plastic that is pre-painted with some old design and this sheet is placed on top of the graphite/kevlar roll. Then it´s all baked togheter in the oven. (My memory is not 100 % accurate,so it could be they first bake the graphite/kevlar roll and then heat and melt the plastic sheet on top of the raw frame. Dont remember unfortunately. Will listen with a friend that also saw this process.

That´s why it looks like some frames have an old PJ. It guess if you sand down 100 of Novak´s frames they will have many different designed Twintube sheets. It has nothing to do with what frame it "used" to be in the past.
ok, now i get it..
so the reason for this is because Novak NEEDS a twintube tech in his (REAL) racket of choice, right?
 

Hankenstein

Hall of Fame
ok, now i get it..
so the reason for this is because Novak NEEDS a twintube tech in his (REAL) racket of choice, right?
Twintube acts like a sort of dampening to the frame. It´s a very simple technology that really works! I would presume it´s a thing you would really notice if you are used to and then suddenly they remove it
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Twintube acts like a sort of dampening to the frame. It´s a very simple technology that really works! I would presume it´s a thing you would really notice if you are used to and then suddenly they remove it
Another big bonus to the TwinTube is that it did not need to be painted so it cut out the painting process making it more cost effective. Just get rid of the flash when the hairpin comes out of the mold and clearcoat the frame and its done. The later Twintube frames they started painting on top of the TwinTube in the shaft.
 
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