Novak's Head Graphene XT pj
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LapsedNoob
Professional
He said the strings are overgrip were changed from what Djokovic would've had bur didn't say it was him who did it.
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Numero Uno
Semi-Pro
Hi,
Here are pics of Novaks 2015 frame. It's obviously identical in specs to his previous frames. Just a new cosmetic.
(Strings aren't his, it was restrung with bab gut and blue Alu power and over grip was changed to head tourna grip).
Enjoy the pics,
Nikeup
What are the specs? thanks for sharing
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leohaegger
Guest
That is a good question!!! I want to know to.
NikeUp
Rookie
I personally don't use these frames I just string them! but the person who does has quite a few of these frames, (not for sale! [emoji6]) so he changes the strings and grips regularly enough.
There are plenty of threads stating novaks specs. I will post them tomorrow.
I also have photos of a last years frame of Novaks I've partially sanded down revealing the paint below. Tomorrow all will be revealed.
NikeUp
There are plenty of threads stating novaks specs. I will post them tomorrow.
I also have photos of a last years frame of Novaks I've partially sanded down revealing the paint below. Tomorrow all will be revealed.
NikeUp
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
PT113B1. Same mold as i.Radical MP (PT113A).
strung Weight: 359g
Strung balance: 32.8cm
SW: 370
Flex: 60RA strung
Grip: 4 3/8, custom with side bevels extended making it more rectangular. Uses two overgrips over Head Calfskin. First overgrip wrapped with no overlapping, top overgrip normal.
Lead placement all around the hoop, under the grommets then continues inside the hoop as shown on pictures.
Anything else?
EasternRocks
Hall of Fame
Do you know what his tension is on the VS/ALU?
NikeUp
Rookie
Thanks for that. Save me the time to have to write it out.
Novak usually uses 27kg mains (Gut) and 27.5kg crosses (Alu) but it varies obviously.
Rozroz
G.O.A.T.
Here you can see whats below the leather grip.
As you can see i shaved away a little of the paint and it clearly has the paint of the flexpoint radical "Power In Control" underneath the Graphene IG pj and blue primer.
Why? Anyones guess....
NikeUp
LOL
this is fascinating and frankly quite ridiculous!
why does NOVAK DJOKOVIC needs an old Radical PJ underneath the new Graphene??
why can't it be a black Radical mold underneath???
very weird...
thanks for this. amazing.
Federerkblade
Hall of Fame
So its a flexpoint radical with a Lead on the handle ?
Why that placement of lead on the handle
Why that placement of lead on the handle
bt johnson
Rookie
Wow that looks very similar to what John Cauthen proposed years ago
EasternRocks
Hall of Fame
I thought his gut mains were always tighter than his Alu crosses?
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
You're confused to what a mold is.
The reason why there is FXP Radical cosmetics underneath is because Djokovic's racquets are TwinTube. With the TwinTube process cosmetics are already on the polymide material.
Rozroz
G.O.A.T.
so indeed i'm confused
can you explain a TWINTUBE?
or link me to a good read on that?
niktub
Professional
Well, not the first time that we see that kind of Head PJ.
It seems that they paint OVER the original PJ...:twisted:
Where is that thread?
niktub
Professional
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
To get the weight, balance, and swingweight that is needed.
Where do you see lead tape on the handle?
It's not tape, it's an actual weight...that metal looking thing at the top of the handle?
Fed Kennedy
Legend
EPIC PICS, let's have a look inside the buttcap?
T21D
Semi-Pro
Here you can see whats below the leather grip.
As you can see i shaved away a little of the paint and it clearly has the paint of the flexpoint radical "Power In Control" underneath the Graphene IG pj and blue primer.
Why? Anyones guess....
NikeUp
wow!!!!! thanks for the awesome pictorial!
bt johnson
Rookie
Where do you see lead tape on the handle?
Why? That's a pretty significant lead weight on the handle. If you take off the butt cap you're going to just be disappointed. Having a little silicone in the handle can feel good but filling an entire racquet with one doesn't.
Fed Kennedy
Legend
just want to gawk at jokers setup bruh
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Twintube tech was used in ti.radical, Liquidmetal, flexpoint
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RanchDressing
Hall of Fame
Very cool posts! Thanks op for dissecting that one.
People forget that at the end of the day these are just racquets. If you have access to more than one of his, then this really isn't a big deal.
As for specs I'd be seriously surprised if it's any different than his old spec. He's been using basically the same thing since before his Wilson days.
I've been setting up an MG radical to be 13.4oz 350sw (some silly balance I haven't measured yet lol) unstrung. The player who's using it is 6'9", and he wants to push what he can use lol.
People forget that at the end of the day these are just racquets. If you have access to more than one of his, then this really isn't a big deal.
As for specs I'd be seriously surprised if it's any different than his old spec. He's been using basically the same thing since before his Wilson days.
I've been setting up an MG radical to be 13.4oz 350sw (some silly balance I haven't measured yet lol) unstrung. The player who's using it is 6'9", and he wants to push what he can use lol.
sixone90
Hall of Fame
I've spoken to some people from Head who are responsible for dealing with the player's racquets and I don't know if his specs are different but the racquet is definitely different from the one he used before he switched to Wilson
Hear, hear.
LOL it does !
dgoran
Hall of Fame
I would not believe it if I did not see it now...wow we all owe john c an apology lol
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=8726765&postcount=18
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=8726765&postcount=18
floydcouncil
Professional
Looks like lead tape. They do make wide lead tapes, FYI.
RanchDressing
Hall of Fame
The frame is different yes, but the specs are very similar or the same. ~370sw 359 grams 32.8 balance. Very minor differences if any at all. Specs make the biggest difference in how a frame plays. Flex is mainly feel, and doesn't make as big of a difference in power as people on here make it out. Stiffer frames actually cause more ball deformation more than anything else.
Besides that, Novak has been quoted as saying his frame at wilson was a replica of what he played with at head, which was endorsed as a LM radical.
6august
Hall of Fame
Still don't understand. As far as i know, a Head "twintube" racquet is made by 2 layers, inner layer is stiff graphite and outer layer is soft polymide. Why cosmetic must already be on the polymide? Can't it be sprayed later?
From what you've said, my imagination is Novak's racquets are built from old twintube racquets and when those sticks are gone, he'll have to switch to another stick?
Rozroz
G.O.A.T.
yea, that's what i was wondering also.
RanchDressing
Hall of Fame
LapsedNoob
Professional
And? Painjobs what now?
6august
Hall of Fame
?????????????????
Hankenstein
Hall of Fame
Guys, the twintube-frames are made like this:
First they make a normal "roll" of the graphite/kevlar. It means they have many different pre-cut sheets of material thats placed on a plastic roll to form the base of the frame. When the material is placed its rolled up in a machine to a long tube and the interior plastic tube is removed.
The "twin tube" is a sheet of thin plastic that is pre-painted with some old design and this sheet is placed on top of the graphite/kevlar roll. Then it´s all baked togheter in the oven. (My memory is not 100 % accurate,so it could be they first bake the graphite/kevlar roll and then heat and melt the plastic sheet on top of the raw frame. Dont remember unfortunately. Will listen with a friend that also saw this process.
That´s why it looks like some frames have an old PJ. It guess if you sand down 100 of Novak´s frames they will have many different designed Twintube sheets. It has nothing to do with what frame it "used" to be in the past.
First they make a normal "roll" of the graphite/kevlar. It means they have many different pre-cut sheets of material thats placed on a plastic roll to form the base of the frame. When the material is placed its rolled up in a machine to a long tube and the interior plastic tube is removed.
The "twin tube" is a sheet of thin plastic that is pre-painted with some old design and this sheet is placed on top of the graphite/kevlar roll. Then it´s all baked togheter in the oven. (My memory is not 100 % accurate,so it could be they first bake the graphite/kevlar roll and then heat and melt the plastic sheet on top of the raw frame. Dont remember unfortunately. Will listen with a friend that also saw this process.
That´s why it looks like some frames have an old PJ. It guess if you sand down 100 of Novak´s frames they will have many different designed Twintube sheets. It has nothing to do with what frame it "used" to be in the past.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
They bake it all together.
Rozroz
G.O.A.T.
ok, now i get it..
so the reason for this is because Novak NEEDS a twintube tech in his (REAL) racket of choice, right?
Hankenstein
Hall of Fame
Twintube acts like a sort of dampening to the frame. It´s a very simple technology that really works! I would presume it´s a thing you would really notice if you are used to and then suddenly they remove it
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Another big bonus to the TwinTube is that it did not need to be painted so it cut out the painting process making it more cost effective. Just get rid of the flash when the hairpin comes out of the mold and clearcoat the frame and its done. The later Twintube frames they started painting on top of the TwinTube in the shaft.
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