Obsessing over technique and never playing matches

R1FF

Professional
Some matches I don’t need much cardio. But most matches having better cardio would have been helpful. It depends on your style, your opponent’s style, and the weather conditions.


I thought I had good cardio. I didnt know what real cardio was until I quit sugar.

Most “athletes” are on a glucose burn. The fatigue they’re feeling after an explosive play isnt a lack of cardio.

Quit sugar, then build a real cardio base. And you’ll realize what Im taking about. It’s night & day.

Knowing what I know now, all those 10’s of thousands of miles I spent crosstraining on my road cycle in an attempt to build cardio were a total waste of time while using sugar as my primary energy source.
 
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SVP

Semi-Pro
In my 20s and 30s, I rarely just rallied. I just wanted to jump right into playing sets. Testosterone, I guess. I learned tennis in the 70s so my game was old school- flat strokes, straight take back.

I’m in my 60s now. For the last two years, with the assistance of a hitting coach, I’ve managed to retool my game to a modern game- looping forehand, brush up on the ball, full follow-through. For me that’s been a big achievement. And I get a complete cardio workout because my coach hits the ball just hard enough to make my tongue hang out. Do I obsess over technique? Yes. But for me at this point, employing the proper technique and hitting a nice stroke is a beauty of the game.

Am I afraid to compete and lose now? Yes. I’m also afraid of all the angst that went into competing. Hats off to all of you competitors. I live vicariously through your all your exploits.
 
That guy reminds me of one of my friends with whom I hit once a week. He's a perfectionist guy who obsesses about stroke technique. He is trying to get a good serve, forehand and backhand and also thinks on the angles of the arms and positioning of the wrist. But he absolutely refuses to compete. I can seldom convince him of playing one or two tiebreaks, in which I win pretty easily, since he's not used to serve under any kind of pressure and doesn't practice second serves. Whenever I tell him he should play some matches, even if friendly relaxed matches against me, his friend (that means there are no strangers) he says it's silly, that he competes "against himself" :rolleyes: and that counting points is just useful for boosting pride (I reply that if pride depends on a tennis match, it can be easily destroyed...)

I've joined an amateur league and will continue hitting with him. So far, he's refused to join the same league, but he's asked me about it with some curiosity. I'm completely convinced he fears losing although he will never recognize it.

He is a lost cause.
Leave him be.

Use him to practice serve returns,
but find actual tennis players to compete against.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
That guy reminds me of one of my friends with whom I hit once a week. He's a perfectionist guy who obsesses about stroke technique. He is trying to get a good serve, forehand and backhand and also thinks on the angles of the arms and positioning of the wrist. But he absolutely refuses to compete. I can seldom convince him of playing one or two tiebreaks, in which I win pretty easily, since he's not used to serve under any kind of pressure and doesn't practice second serves. Whenever I tell him he should play some matches, even if friendly relaxed matches against me, his friend (that means there are no strangers) he says it's silly, that he competes "against himself" :rolleyes: and that counting points is just useful for boosting pride (I reply that if pride depends on a tennis match, it can be easily destroyed...)

I've joined an amateur league and will continue hitting with him. So far, he's refused to join the same league, but he's asked me about it with some curiosity. I'm completely convinced he fears losing although he will never recognize it.

The way I deal with people like this and those who always have some pain excuse is to persuade them to play points without counting. You keep serving as in a real match for 10 minutes (two serves only, switch courts, etc), then he does the same, then you switch ends and repeat. No score. If you try to play tiebreaks or 21 points, they know there will be a winner and a loser, and refuse. I don't even say 10 minutes - I say as long as you want, then give me the chance to serve.

It works really well with players who are afraid of double faulting. For them, I throw in an additional carrot - from each court, serve as many times as you need to get the serve in. This relaxes them a lot and they sometimes hit good serves for me to return which they would have dinked otherwise.
 

Pitti

Rookie
The way I deal with people like this and those who always have some pain excuse is to persuade them to play points without counting. You keep serving as in a real match for 10 minutes (two serves only, switch courts, etc), then he does the same, then you switch ends and repeat. No score. If you try to play tiebreaks or 21 points, they know there will be a winner and a loser, and refuse. I don't even say 10 minutes - I say as long as you want, then give me the chance to serve.

It works really well with players who are afraid of double faulting. For them, I throw in an additional carrot - from each court, serve as many times as you need to get the serve in. This relaxes them a lot and they sometimes hit good serves for me to return which they would have dinked otherwise.

I’ll definitely try this on next weekend! (Additional carrot included). I think it can work well with my friend.


Or you can just find better hitting partners.

Yes, I know. But I also enjoy playing with my friend even if he refuses to compete. Now that I’ll play some matches, I can combine some competition with some relaxed hitting with him. Or maybe I could just find... better friends? :p
 
Yes, I know. But I also enjoy playing with my friend even if he refuses to compete. Now that I’ll play some matches, I can combine some competition with some relaxed hitting with him. Or maybe I could just find... better friends? :p

Just use him for serve return practice.
He won't change.
Not your problem.
 

Pitti

Rookie
Just use him for serve return practice.
He won't change.
Not your problem.
I’d gladly play a set against anyone, even knowing I’ll probably be destroyed. I’ll return his serves. Whenever he gets a flat serve in, its a pretty good one since he’s a tall guy.
 
Did it stay off?
Stayed off, I'm at 181.

Either way, you do realize the standard weight loss regimens mostly always fail, making you an outlier. Hardly an advisable path wouldnt you say?

I guess I'm an outlier--I'm mum on whether it's an "advisable path"--whatever works I say.

I've found a new miracle weight loss diet : candied caramel apples with sprinkles--they're only $2-$3- for a big fat one--very filling and you keep the doctor away--I need my sugar fix--gotta' have some bad habits.

How much do you charge for your program? Do you coach in person or by phone/skype? I wouldn't mind getting down to 155 so my bulging six pack emerges through that layer of fat.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Find younger players.
Do you play in non-USTA club singles leagues?
That is where the action is.

No. I cannot commit to times and places much in advance. I try to find younger players but they don't want me. So I usually end up playing (singles) with younger women who are happy to have me.
 

R1FF

Professional
Stayed off, I'm at 181.



I guess I'm an outlier--I'm mum on whether it's an "advisable path"--whatever works I say.

I've found a new miracle weight loss diet : candied caramel apples with sprinkles--they're only $2-$3- for a big fat one--very filling and you keep the doctor away--I need my sugar fix--gotta' have some bad habits.

How much do you charge for your program? Do you coach in person or by phone/skype? I wouldn't mind getting down to 155 so my bulging six pack emerges through that layer of fat.

I’ve never charged a dime. I find it very fulfilling to help people get healthy. The “thankyou” phone calls & emails are worth more than money. DM me if you’re genuinely interested.
 

R1FF

Professional
Not needed.

Just Google
Zero carbs Paleo Atkin's Keto
and see if it's for you.

Wrong.

Asking him to go do hours of research is not exactly the best way to set someone up for success.

Especially since I’ve done months of research already and condensed it down into something bite size.

He asked me for specific help and you literally just pointed him in 4 different directions.
 
"Zero carbs"
Learned in 30 seconds.

Yes = Fish, Arugula, spinach, eggplant, mushrooms, broccoli, cauliflower, zucchini, bell peppers, fennel, cabbage, celery, Brussels sprouts, kale, Chicken, turkey, beef, venison, pork, lamb, Macadamia nuts, flaxseed, Brazil nuts, chia seeds, walnuts, pecans, hemp seeds, hazelnuts, sesame seeds, pumpkin seeds, almonds, Cheese, cottage cheese, plain Greek yogurt, cream, butter, eggs, olives.

No = everything else. Sugar, whole grains, fruits, grains, beans, legumes, pasta, bread, and baked goods.

When you are about to put something in your mouth, is it on the "yes" list?
If yes, eat.
If not, do not eat.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
"Zero carbs"
Learned in 30 seconds.

Yes = Fish, Arugula, spinach, eggplant, mushrooms, broccoli, cauliflower, zucchini, bell peppers, fennel, cabbage, celery, Brussels sprouts, kale, Chicken, turkey, beef, venison, pork, lamb, Macadamia nuts, flaxseed, Brazil nuts, chia seeds, walnuts, pecans, hemp seeds, hazelnuts, sesame seeds, pumpkin seeds, almonds, Cheese, cottage cheese, plain Greek yogurt, cream, butter, eggs, olives.

No = everything else. Sugar, whole grains, fruits, grains, beans, legumes, pasta, bread, and baked goods.

When you are about to put something in your mouth, is it on the "yes" list?
If yes, eat.
If not, do not eat.

How would you adapt this if the person is vegetarian but eats eggs? Then the protein sources will be only egg and dairy but no beans/lentils?
 
Eat the beans.
Cheap protein.

The theory behind keto is that zero carbs means
that after 1-2 months on zero carbs,
the body adapts to only using fat as an energy source.

I personally do not follow this Keto paradigm.
I can play 3 sets of tennis with no problems.
I am not trying to lose fat, nor do I have any energy issues.

Many people get ill from extreme diets like this.
I have eaten low carbs for 2 decades, but am not dogmatic about every last carb.
That is a level of hyper obsession I'm not interested in.
I am more moderate and allow whole grains and legumes.
 

R1FF

Professional
The proteins in beans are not easily digestible, if at all. The protein is incomplete and missing key amino acids.

Please, stay in your lane, whatever lane that is. The moment you say “low carb” it’s an indicator of how shallow you’ve researched this topic.

Most people ARE ill from the standard american diet. And i have no doubt they’d get ill from following your sloppy advice on “low carb” dieting.

But I can tell you that NOBODY Ive helped has gotten ill. In fact I’ve helped people reverse the damage of their diabetic state. As I said, 100% success rate.

But it’s not about losing weight imo. It’s about feeling better & maximizing performance. Im 10x the athlete I was. 7 hrs of tennis ... 6 hours of full court basketball with kids half my age ... doesn’t matter, my body can do it while most people my age cant keep up. I run circles around most people athletically. And I owe it all to nutrition.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
Not needed.

Just Google
Zero carbs Paleo Atkin's Keto
and see if it's for you.
please follow your own advice before you create your next thread asking for help on how to string a racquet, pre-stretch strings, tie a knot, and the list goes on and on...you want and expect others to help you, yet you aren’t willing to do the same for others.
 
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R1FF

Professional

Yeah, imagine thinking the food we eat matters is a disorder... LOL

What’s the mental disorder called for people who do not care? Yet still bich & moan when disease sets in and they cant afford the medical costs.
 
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R1FF

Professional
please follow your own advice before you create your next thread asking for help on how to string a racquet, pre-stretch strings, tie a knot, and the list goes on and on...you want and expect others to help you, yet you aren’t willing to do the same for others.

Funny thing is, anyone who re-strings their racquets constantly, change out shoes every 3 months, always play with new balls, and take lessons is pretty serious about tennis. Obsessed one might say.

And yet the single most important tool is your health. It has an exponentially greater impact on performance than anyone’s strings or shoes. But as you can see, it’s met with pushback for some reason.

Taking a consistent approach with nutrition is labeled a domatic/eating disorder and brining multiple racquets to the match is standard. ... LOL

Proper nutrition is like being on PEDs compared to the average competitor. It prevents injury. And allows me to play tennis every day and push harder than most. Meanwhile most people I see are overweight, complaining about being sore, and quit after the first set of a singles match because they cant keep up.

I prefer my quality of life much better than before. The pain I was in was holding me back and affecting me in more than just sports. The fact that now that Im healthy & pain free (and I did it naturally) would be labeled anything other than a positive is asinine.
 

dsb

Rookie
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And yet the single most important tool is your health. It has an exponentially greater impact on performance than anyone’s strings or shoes. But as you can see, it’s met with pushback for some reason.

Taking a consistent approach with nutrition is labeled a domatic/eating disorder and brining multiple racquets to the match is standard. ... LOL

Proper nutrition is like being on PEDs compared to the average competitor. It prevents injury. And allows me to play tennis every day and push harder than most. Meanwhile most people I see are overweight, complaining about being sore, and quit after the first set of a singles match because they cant keep up.

I prefer my quality of life much better than before. The pain I was in was holding me back and affecting me in more than just sports. The fact that now that Im healthy & pain free (and I did it naturally) would be labeled anything other than a positive is asinine.

So lay it out... What did you do/are you doing? Is it a secret? Is it proprietary? Are you looking to profit from it? We've all heard how great it is, how about you tell us what it is?
 
So lay it out... What did you do/are you doing? Is it a secret? Is it proprietary? Are you looking to profit from it? We've all heard how great it is, how about you tell us what it is?
Agreed, I was about to ask the same question, can you, (R1FF), tell us what you ate yesterday for instance? I'm not poo-pooing your ideas, I would love to lose weight, most would I'm sure also. What do you recommend eating on an average day? Can this be done by someone who doesn't cook?--my cooking skills are turning the microwave to Hi or Lo.

As to the importance of optimum physical fitness for tennis, perhaps at the ATP 100 level, but in the Senior Age Group tournament level, I've seen players who shouldn't be lifting their shirts to towel off. Tennis is more of a fine motor skill sport, more akin to being a classical musician or opera singer, who don't need to be perfect physical specimens to perform. With good technique, strategy and tactics a fattish player can beat an Osain Bolt.
 

SeeItHitIt

Professional
Video please

Haha. I was going to reply that I’ve tried that (playing mXd with wife and working on technique) and both activities went downhill faster than a soapbox car. I’ve suggested video many times...but that bombed out too!
 

R1FF

Professional
So lay it out... What did you do/are you doing? Is it a secret? Is it proprietary? Are you looking to profit from it? We've all heard how great it is, how about you tell us what it is?

Have you not read this thread?
 

dsb

Rookie
Have you not read this thread?
Evasive much?

There's been references to all sorts of low carb schemes, and you claim to have done 'extensive' research, are those results entirely contained in these 2 pages?
 

R1FF

Professional
Agreed, I was about to ask the same question, can you, (R1FF), tell us what you ate yesterday for instance? I'm not poo-pooing your ideas, I would love to lose weight, most would I'm sure also. What do you recommend eating on an average day? Can this be done by someone who doesn't cook?--my cooking skills are turning the microwave to Hi or Lo.

As to the importance of optimum physical fitness for tennis, perhaps at the ATP 100 level, but in the Senior Age Group tournament level, I've seen players who shouldn't be lifting their shirts to towel off. Tennis is more of a fine motor skill sport, more akin to being a classical musician or opera singer, who don't need to be perfect physical specimens to perform. With good technique, strategy and tactics a fattish player can beat an Osain Bolt.

I recommend cutting out anything that metabolizes into glucose (and that includes cheap protein sources). Namely, carbs. The reason I do not call it “low carb” or subscribe to any of the brands like Atkins or Paleo is because those do not stress what too eat, as much as what they tell you what not to eat. And I think that sets a person up for failure.

Quitting sugar can cause some pretty significant withdrawal symptoms. So my program has been focused on how to “kick” the addiction in as little time as possible with as little discomfort as possible (I’ve seen 3 people puke from it, looked like any other hardcore narcotic withdraws). If people are going to give up 80% of their current diet, you better give them something satiating that they can replace it with. But I dont see FAT stressed enough in these other “diets”, probably because fat has been demonized for so long it wouldn’t be wise marketing. Getting the average person to flip & accept that fat/cholesterol are good, is a tough sell. We’ve all been indoctrinated to some degree.

Average person I help gets thru in 11 days. But it still takes roughly 30 before your body is fully fat adapted and physical & cognitive performance returns and improves.

Yes, cutting out the carbs is an oversimplification of the process. The other aspects include replacing all those carbs with nutient dense & filling calories such as red meat, eggs, & full fat dairy. 70-80% of my daily intake is fat. The rest is protein. Imagine that, I lost 45 lbs from eating mostly fat!

But that is the natural state of the human body (ketosis). Fat should be your primary fuel source. And glucose should come from the liver via excess protein being metabolized via glucogenesis.

You dont need to be measuring out all your food like I do (I track all I eat & all physical expenditure and been doing so for almost 2 years). I treat this like a research project tho. That isn’t required of anyone else. By simply sticking to the right categories of food, the fat-to-protein ratios naturally take care of themselves. But it is critical that you eat enough. I’ve seen plenty of overzealous enthusiasm lead to thinking they can starve themselves. That’s a recipe for failure. As are a few other non-diet factors I lay out.

Lifestyle changes are NOT easy. And that is exactly what a nutrition overhaul is, unfortunately. Getting thru the first 14 days really is the hardest part (physically) and where the least amount of help can be found online from simply searching “low carb”.

The MENTAL aspect of a lifestyle change is MUCH harder to overcome and where 75% of my help comes in. I believe that the motivation factor is ultimately what determines our success. For example:
  • Every person Ive helped has lost weight & felt better
  • NOT every person I’ve helped has stuck with it
  • The first question I ask is “what is your motivation for a lifestyle change?”
  • If you tell me “weight loss” I can guarantee certain failure
  • 100% of the people who only are seeking weight loss fail in my experience. Myself included if I hadnt discovered the other benefits that carried more meaning to me. Sure, better sports performance is nice. But my true motivation came when my back pain subsided. Lifelong back pain, GONE. That is why I still havent relapsed into eating pizza. My motivation changed from weight loss to pain loss by day 3. Each person has to find their own motivator tho that is personal to them.
  • Weight loss is temporary in that I can guarantee those results, but once you hit that goal, what incentive is there to stay the course? People dont really care about being healthy or avoiding disease. They may claim it, but their actions tell a different story.
  • Every person that has taken the time to figure out a long term and genuine motivator, stays the course indefinitely.
  • Oddly enough, other motivators such as “avoiding disease” ... “I want to be healthier” .... “I want to live longer to see my grandkids grow up” are all pretty worthless motivators. People dont really care about cancer until they’ve got it, and even then, they dont REALLY care to change behavior. I’ve found that some of the most trivial motivations can be the best, the key is that they are TANGIBLE and not abstract.
  • So find your motivation first & foremost. It’s the fundamental building block and best weapon against a culture that is constantly offering deviation from one’s goals.
  • Weight loss is a natural byproduct of getting healthy. Nothing more. If you’ve made weight loss the goal, there are many ways to achieve it but they are generally not sustainable or healthy. Let the weight loss become the side effect, everything gets easier with that mindset.
And yes, you do need to be able to cook. You do not have to be great at it. But if you dont have the time or effort to cook yourself dinner with real food once a day, that’s a bigger issue in itself. Cooking is a basic lifeskill. If you can prioritize learning a better backhand, you can learn to cook a restaurant quality steak.

There’s a lot more detail than all this. Including the science behind it (of which few actually care about LOL). Like I said, DM me if interested. Im typing this from my phone so it’s not easy and Im sure much is lost in translation.

Oh, and my typical daily intake is as follows:

Early Lunch (500-600 calories): eggs, some fresh mozzarella

Dinner (1500 calories): steak with butter on it

....

Just because you’ve seen already good players who aren’t physically healthy, doesnt mean they wouldnt massively improve from better health. I’ve helped 2 very good tennis players kick sugar and their games did improve, a lot. If you dont think your nutrition habits affects cognitive function, you’re wrong.
 
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R1FF

Professional
Evasive much?

There's been references to all sorts of low carb schemes, and you claim to have done 'extensive' research, are those results entirely contained in these 2 pages?

You asked me if I was looking to make money. Which tells me you didnt read the thread. Before implying anything about my motivations, try reading my posts first. Is that really too much to ask?

Literally everything you asked me, I already answered in other posts.
 

dsb

Rookie
You're doing keto... and getting good results... good for you. I've done keto and gotten great results as well, but it seemed to me, and at least one other person (Tennis Tom #79) that you were doing something different, but you weren't spelling it out, so I asked you to. What you describe seems like keto to me, but with my limited reading comprehension what do I know. This all came about because you were espousing these great results and attributing them to your 'secret sauce', when you poo poo'd TTPS' suggestion I thought you were doing something outside the set of those suggestions when in fact you're using a method contained in the set. sorry for my confusion. I chalk it up to intellectual curiosity...
 

R1FF

Professional
The secret sauce is in the mental aspects of a lifestyle change.

The science behind ketosis is much easier than kicking sugar and staying off it. Treating sugar like any other narcotic is a tough paradigm shift.

What I do differently is focus on the mental aspects of lifestyle change. As Im only interested in helping people for the long haul. If I was into making money off of this, I’d think short term for clients and only focus on their short term goals (usually weight loss). Im sure there’s money in that but it’s not fulfilling.

And there’s little to no money in lifestyle change for the simple fact that it’s a very small client base. The real money is in a pill that would allow someone to still eat like crap, testosterone drop, yell still get a boner. It’s no suprise to me that 60% of American males suffer from ED when you consider how most eat. Reversing that trend either requires full scale nutrition change or a pill. You can see which is more lucrative.

My testosterone levels have skyrocketed since my nutrition change. And gotten even better since graduating from keto to carnivore. Of which I still consider Im in the testing & research phase of. I’d like to go a full 2 years of “carnivore” and still do a lot more studying before I feel comfortable recommending it to anyone. But so far, the personal results have been good (which is saying something considering I was already feeling great) and science appears sound. It’s quite the mind fck to consider that maybe vegetables are BAD for our health. But Im willing to test the theory if the science makes sense and so far it does. But I do realuze that it’s a totally radical concept to someone who hasnt even kicked sugar yet.

I also subscribe to daily fasting. Not for weight loss but for the other health benefits.
 
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R1FF

Professional
I see someone is still upset that nobody asks him for advice on anything. LOL.

I’d also classify the 4-5 threads per day you start, in which you berate players better than you, and claim your superiority, as “manic delusion” but hey, thanks for the psyche evaluation Dr Jeckle. LOL

Again, “low carb” is misleading terminology, so please quit trying to quote or paraphrase me. I can explain myself perfectly fine without you trying to muddy the waters.
 

R1FF

Professional
Agreed that sugar is bad for health. I avoid sugar and flour like the plague.

But where do you get the idea that maybe veggies are bad for human health?

Been doing a lot of reading on the toxins within vegetables that are their natural self defense mechanism. The dangers of lectins in particular.

And when you consider all of our fruits & veggies look NOTHING like they did in nature pre-selective breeding, I cant help but wonder if they’d even be palatable in their natural state. And if not? What does that tell us.

Wild game is still the same as it always has been. And it’s a year-round food source. Seasonal veggies are not. So Im left wondering just how important a staple should a genre of food be that is (1) only available in nature for a short window of the year (2) been specially bred and needs butter or dressing to taste decent (3) requires massive amounts of land & resources to cultivate naturally (4) and full of tons of FIBER which, if we were meant to eat it, wouldnt it be something we could metabolize rather than it just passing thru our system and providing no nutritional value?

At worst, veggies are potentially toxic. At best they’re inefficient nutrient sources & void of energy calories.

Our stomach biology is much closer to that of a wolf (known carnivore) and nothing like a cow or sheep.

Everything good found in veggies is in a much denser & easier to metabolize package in the form of organ meat (liver, etc). Organs are literally a superfood.

This winter I’ll be going in for full bloodwork & a physical. I will report back my findings if interested. It will be 3 months of me pseudo going carnivore followed by 6 months of strict carnivore.
 

R1FF

Professional
Interesting anecdote... while testing stuff out, we had my mother in law go full keto (close to full carnivore) for a few months.

For the first time in 20+ years she no longer had to take her IBS medication. Normal bowel movements. No stomach aches. No more meds.

I dont know what was causing the IBS, if it was the carbs or the fiber in all the veggies, but it was cured once those were removed.

She eventually fell off the wagon due to pressure from her household. And is now back on the IBS meds. She had such significantly positive results I thought for sure she’d never touch a veggie or carb again but i think it speaks to the influence of peer pressure. Proof positive that we all gotta find our own motivation and even then, it might not be enough. I think a support system is very important to any form of recovery.

The only consistent benefit has been weight loss. But almost everyone has gotten some ancillary benefits that ended up being more important to them. For me it was the back pain & insomnia relief. For my wife, her adult acne went away (carb heavy diets cause water retention & closes skin pores that result in harder to manage acne). The more I study this topic the more it starts to seem like almost every health issue leads back to nutrition/sugar being the root culprit. So much so, Im fairly convinced it plays a major role in behavioral issues as well, ESPECIALLY with children.
 
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Getting the average person to flip & accept that fat/cholesterol are good, is a tough sell. We’ve all been indoctrinated to some degree.
SOLD!

70-80% of my daily intake is fat. The rest is protein. Imagine that, I lost 45 lbs from eating mostly fat!
I'm visualizing that right now.

Fat should be your primary fuel source.
I'm in! Now you're talking my language.

But my true motivation came when my back pain subsided. Lifelong back pain, GONE.

Are you familiar with the works by the best selling "back" doctor John E. Sarno M.D.?

And yes, you do need to be able to cook.
Can I buy them pre-packaged and get the same benefit?

If you can prioritize learning a better backhand, you can learn to cook a restaurant quality steak.
Can I just go to a restaurant and order a steak and get the same benefit? I like 'em rare.

Early Lunch (500-600 calories): eggs, some fresh mozzarella

Dinner (1500 calories): steak with butter on it
Now your talking my language.

Organs are literally a superfood.
I love sweetbreads and tripe when cooked right.
 

R1FF

Professional
SOLD!


I'm visualizing that right now.


I'm in! Now you're talking my language.



Are you familiar with the works by the best selling "back" doctor John E. Sarno M.D.?


Can I buy them pre-packaged and get the same benefit?


Can I just go to a restaurant and order a steak and get the same benefit? I like 'em rare.


Now your talking my language.


I love sweetbreads and tripe when cooked right.

Too be honest, yes restaurant or prepackaged foods are fine. It’s all about getting your macro-nutrient ratios right, however you do it.

But be careful with prepackaged foods labeled “low carb”. There are plenty of low carb branded foods that are NOT healthy. Learn to read labels by habit.
 

OnTheLine

Hall of Fame
The way I deal with people like this and those who always have some pain excuse is to persuade them to play points without counting. You keep serving as in a real match for 10 minutes (two serves only, switch courts, etc), then he does the same, then you switch ends and repeat. No score. If you try to play tiebreaks or 21 points, they know there will be a winner and a loser, and refuse. I don't even say 10 minutes - I say as long as you want, then give me the chance to serve.

It works really well with players who are afraid of double faulting. For them, I throw in an additional carrot - from each court, serve as many times as you need to get the serve in. This relaxes them a lot and they sometimes hit good serves for me to return which they would have dinked otherwise.

This is actually an exceptional way to practice.

If you can practice in an intense way using this method ... where you are actually trying to win the individual point but not keeping track it can put you into a very relaxed frame of mind.

For me at least, and I think others, if I play relaxed I tend to play quite well. Would be nice in a league match to be able to tap into that mindset when I find myself becoming tight. Hard to tap into a mindset if you have never experienced it. By practicing this way you can train yourself to be there. Just in the moment, free and relaxed.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Too be honest, yes restaurant or prepackaged foods are fine. It’s all about getting your macro-nutrient ratios right, however you do it.

But be careful with prepackaged foods labeled “low carb”. There are plenty of low carb branded foods that are NOT healthy. Learn to read labels by habit.

I prefer to eat food that doesn’t have or need a label?

The world is a better place when food starts with basic ingredients and you make it yourself.
 

Chalkdust

Professional
This means you don't have faith in your strokes.
This means you have not drilled enough.
There is zero difference in my practice vs. league matches.
I have done the drilling, and done lots of reps, and trust my strokes.
Even ATP pros sometimes get tight in matches sometimes.
Sell them your secret sauce and cash in!
(And then please mail me my 10% commission for giving you this cash cow idea.)
 

OnTheLine

Hall of Fame
Even ATP pros sometimes get tight in matches sometimes.
Sell them your secret sauce and cash in!
(And then please mail me my 10% commission for giving you this cash cow idea.)
You certain? Because after his comment I was feeling all bad about myself.
 
Even ATP pros sometimes get tight in matches sometimes.
Sell them your secret sauce and cash in!
(And then please mail me my 10% commission for giving you this cash cow idea.)
The secret is that our livelihood didn't depend on this game. So the outcome is meaningless. Just bash away! Guess that's not gonna work for ATP. lol
 

R1FF

Professional
I prefer to eat food that doesn’t have or need a label?

The world is a better place when food starts with basic ingredients and you make it yourself.

No disagreement from me there.


The secret is that our livelihood didn't depend on this game. So the outcome is meaningless. Just bash away! Guess that's not gonna work for ATP. lol

Pro athletes have spent their lives “practicing how they play”. They convince themselves it is life or death. And they treat practice no different.

In fact, when their are no stakes, they struggle to find engagment as a result of there mental conditioning.

In a meritocratic environment, this is proven to be the best way to play any sport at any level. Practice how you play. Care in practice so that when you’re in a real match, you’re conditioned for it.

Pretending to not care in both practice & matches might seem like you’re setting yourself up for more relaxed play, and thus better execution, but that just isnt the case.

Nobody has ever coached their players, in any sport, to remain apathetic as an attempt to get “ice in your veins”.
 
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R1FF

Professional
Goodness good jebus, people threw up from reducing sugar intake? What were they eating to develop reliance on sugar?

Just the normal every day American diet is about 80% carbs, which all metabolize into glucose, aka sugar. It’s highly addictive and you dont realize it until you kick it down to 5% or less.

Sugar is also added to damn near everything. You dont realize it until you start reading/deciphering ingredients.

My wife has suggested that I advise people to taper off the sugar rather than demand cold turkey. She thinks it will be easier on most people. She might be right. But I am having a hard time reconcilling how it’s easier to slowly reduce sugar intake over 60 days than to just grind out 10-14 days and then start the process of seeing the benefits in a rather short period.

A 60 day process just seems like torture by paper cut. Especially when if done my way, by day 60 a person shpuld have easily lost 30+ pounds and be in full ketosis. New habits take 45 days to form on average. Obviously, Im a “rip the bandaid off” kinda person.
 
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