Stated in the USTA League regulations:
Is he going to have them create new USTA accounts so they can self rate?
Hm. Do you think you actually have to play at nationals to be subject to that rule or would just getting 3 matches on a team that goes to nationals suffice? Asking for a friend
As worded, it says "play in Nationals Championships" so one wouldn't think just being on the team would qualify you for the appeal exclusion. But I can't say for sure.
But, but, but, nothing in the USTA rules is ever poorly worded or confusing!
Shoot, I can't say that someone that played at Nationals couldn't click the appeal button and have it work! It shouldn't work, but it doesn't hurt to try if you want to appeal down. I'm pretty sure there are no demerits on your record if you click appeal and it is denied.
I hope there aren't. My annual appeal to 3.0 was denied yet again.
I can confirm that one needs to actually *play* a match at Nationals to be ineligible to appeal down. I had one player who was on my 4.0 Nationals team who was successful in appealing back down to 4.0A, and he didn't make the trip to Nationals.
no he already has his next 5 years planned out according to one of his players.
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Analyzing 2021 USTA NTRP year-end ratings - Section bump rates by gender
2021 year-end ratings have been published , and my analysis continues. I looked at some high level bump stats earlier , now we start to take...
The other explanation for this is USTA is giving people what they think they they want. Men want to get rated lower and women want to get rated higher. The problem is this just widens the disparate between men and women, making mixed doubles even more lopsided than this data already showed:
"While there are more permutations with Mixed, the unbalanced pairs when the male is higher rated do tend to win more often, 57-61% of the time."
What NTRP rating combinations works best in 55 & over Adult? More Interesting Tennis League Stats
In USTA League play, the 55 & over division typically uses combined ratings rather than straight NTRP levels. For example, in 18+ and 40+...
So now a higher rated male will be even stronger as compared to the female player. Now even if USTA says for mixed doubles the male player should count .5 stronger I am still not sure this would cover the difference. I'm afraid mixed doubles is going to turn into hit at the female player 100% of the time.
once you get to the Sectional level that is exactly what happens on many teams, team we played at Southern Sectionals, literally the guy told his partner to stand in a corner and not move. Not sure how any can play tennis like that, but guess the power of the plastic trophy is strong.Analyzing 2021 USTA NTRP year-end ratings - Section bump rates by gender
2021 year-end ratings have been published , and my analysis continues. I looked at some high level bump stats earlier , now we start to take...
The other explanation for this is USTA is giving people what they think they they want. Men want to get rated lower and women want to get rated higher. The problem is this just widens the disparate between men and women, making mixed doubles even more lopsided than this data already showed:
"While there are more permutations with Mixed, the unbalanced pairs when the male is higher rated do tend to win more often, 57-61% of the time."
What NTRP rating combinations works best in 55 & over Adult? More Interesting Tennis League Stats
In USTA League play, the 55 & over division typically uses combined ratings rather than straight NTRP levels. For example, in 18+ and 40+...
So now a higher rated male will be even stronger as compared to the female player. Now even if USTA says for mixed doubles the male player should count .5 stronger I am still not sure this would cover the difference. I'm afraid mixed doubles is going to turn into hit at the female player 100% of the time.
This is true. Most I have seen just have a “dump” type volley. Not the right form but because the pace is there they don’t need form. And most knuckle head guys can’t figure out “maybe I should take some pace off the ball and make her do the work”.
Analyzing 2021 USTA NTRP year-end ratings - Section bump rates by gender
2021 year-end ratings have been published , and my analysis continues. I looked at some high level bump stats earlier , now we start to take...
The other explanation for this is USTA is giving people what they think they they want. Men want to get rated lower and women want to get rated higher. The problem is this just widens the disparate between men and women, making mixed doubles even more lopsided than this data already showed:
I would definitely agree that in my area (mid) with F ladies leagues it appears that they are definitely giving what they want. Usta were extremely reluctant with bumping down - even where is was wildly appropriate .
Personally as a middle of the range player I’m not affected directoy but playing opponents on the line 2 matches who are WAY below the lower threshold of the level is getting a bit tiresome.
I guess I just need to suck it up and really focus my efforts to have more aggressive wins. Bagels and breadsticks are my only hope to progress. Oh well.
Make a new USTA account and self rate as 3.5
We thought both were safe, but I wouldn't be surprised if winning that was a factor. Really relieved that EH got the appeal, for obvious selfish reasons, lol.
Ah they're not exactly my close friends (my mixed team is who is mostly 3.5 and 4.0s). Well I was surprised at getting bumped bc I lost most of my matches. The ones I won I didn't feel like they were strong and I had a good partner
Ha. I know someone that did just that (used middle name), but it wasn't that low of a level. Just the level they were before.
Haha I have actually done that before when I broke my wrist and wanted to play lefty. It went so bad I didn't play again.
That’s what everyone who gets bumped says. Rather than them being weak it usually means you’ve outgrown the level.
Fortunately, each of my opponents in those two matches have (rightfully) been bumped to 5.0 for 2022.
They were, and I should know. I was the only person at States who played both of them, back to back on day one no less. Lucky me!
I thought for a while I was going to have to have elbow surgery this fall. I was planning on contacting the LLCs to see if they would let me create a new account called "Lefty" or something to play left-handed while I recovered. Thankfully, I avoided the surgery and never had to ask for that, but I had already signed up for a 3.0/3.5 level in-house league at my local club, so I've been playing those matches left handed anyway just for fun. I'm like a 3.0 level pusher singles specialist left handed, but I have split sets in all but one of the matches and won a couple. It's an interesting challenge to hit all overhead serves and one handed BHs with your non-dominant hand. My wide, short-angle slice serve to the ad side is almost good enough to start throwing in once a match in my RH matches if I see the returner well behind the baseline. I did it twice in a team practice match against my friends who know I also play LH and they netted the return both times. The key to using it for real is going to be to come up to the line RH and bounce the ball once or twice and then quick switch hands right before I toss. If I do get good enough at it, I guarantee it will win points as long as it's only one per match.
what kind of elbow surgery? Ulnar collateral ligament? extensor tendon?
Golfer's elbow release surgery. I had golfer's elbow (i.e. tendinitis on the inside of the elbow instead of TE on the outside) really bad starting last fall throughout this summer and none of the regular treatments helped it (i.e. months of rest, PT, cortisone, etc.). I got an MRI on it that showed it was actually starting to get frayed, not just inflamed. I got a PRP injection as a last ditch effort to treat without surgery. I wasn't too optimistic going in, which is why I was making contingencies for at least 6 months of being left handed, but that treatment worked like a miracle. I had to take off 6 weeks after the injection, but it has been 100% better since then. I know people have had varying results with PRP for tennis injuries, but my experience with it with GE was overwhelmingly positive.
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@Moon Shooter outlined some of the factors, and if you want to DM me your name, I can look and see if my ratings explain why were weren't bumped up.
Same thing happened to me. I played only doubles for a team that went to Nationals and didn’t lose a set during the regular season and sectionals. My first loss was the first match of Nationals and then won the rest of my matches. My record for the year was 14-1. Tennis Records had me with a year end rating of a 4.5 medium.
I haven't confirmed this, but if they follow last year's pattern it will be 11/13.
