Official Dunlop iDapt Club 2014

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  1. Roddickulous

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    Just finished hitting with the brand new Force 100S. I opted for the extended length zero grip sized handle and the green cosmetic with the firm shock sleeve. It hits like a dream.
     
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  2. SpinToWin

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    The what?
    1000huhs
     
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  3. WhereIsMacMac

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    Sounds like a new line of Dunlop racquets. Sounds like an apple product too.

    Force 100? That sounds like beginner's racquet. Like Wilson Envy or something like that.
     
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  4. Automatix

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    From what I heard there are 3 racquets (e.g. Force 98, Force 100, Force 100S) which are tunned to your preference.
     
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  5. Rogael Naderer

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    How do I get it?

    (I'm UK based)
     
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  6. Roddickulous

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    Well they ship out to US on 18-Aug. the throat sections for all of the racquets are perfect hybrids between the Babolat Aero Pro Drive and Babolat Pure Drive. All 3 models boast the following specs (for a 27" racquet):

    Force 100S:
    Head Size - 100sq. in.
    Weight - 10.6/300
    Beam - 24-26-23
    String Pattern - 14x18
    Grip - 0-5
    Color options - Blue, Green, and Pink

    Force 100:
    Head Size - 100sq. in.
    Weight - 10.6/300
    Beam - 24-26-23
    String Pattern - 16x19
    Grip - 0-5
    Color options - Yellow/Black, and Black/Yellow.

    Force 98:
    Head Size - 98sq. in.
    Weight - 10.6/300
    Beam - 24-26-23
    String Pattern - 16x19
    Grip - 0-5
    Color options - Purple/Yellow, Orange/Black, and Black/Red.

    All handle areas can be custom fitted with either a standard length handle or a half inch extended handle both available in grip sizes 0-5. There are three levels of dampening systems, firm, medium, and high (forgot the exact name for the last one here).

    More to come in the next few days.
     
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  7. Roddickulous

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    Also, this is nothing like Head Custom Made. It's something that your local dealer will be able to do for you.
     
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  8. Automatix

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    Sorry for the confusion. I must have mistaken it with something else I've been told about. I don't pay as much attention to the stuff I'm told about new offerings like I used to.
     
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  9. vsbabolat

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    I just wish Dunlop would bring back the 300Tour in a flex of 63RA...
     
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  10. PMac

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    I got an email notification from my proshop today that they will have the Dunlop iDapt in on August 15th. Interesting that google shows nothing more than this thread and some trademark info.
     
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  11. vsbabolat

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    All I know is I see no one at the clubs I play at using the new 2.0 and 3.0. I still see lots of 200 and 300 being used though!
     
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  12. WhereIsMacMac

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    No 18x20 for the 98?
     
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  13. mlocke1322

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    Full writeup of these in the newest issue of Tennis Magazine (Sept/Oct 2014)
     
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  14. GoSurfBoy

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    Big meeting just finished in New Orleans. This new line is supposed to 'rock.
     
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  15. hoodjem

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    All too light. Can they customize the weight also?
     
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  16. WhereIsMacMac

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    I would choose a 18x20 over a 14x18

    Overall, iDapt sounds pretty intriguing. Just hoping they could have the 98 in a more dense string pattern and in 22mm straight bean.
     
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  19. 2ndServe

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    drool, hasn't this been done with golf clubs for the last 5+ years? Tennis finally catching up.
     
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    Dunlop iDapt Force 98

    Head Size:
    98 sq. in. / 632.26 sq. cm.
    Length: 27in / 68.58cm
    Length Extended Version: 27.5in / 69.85cm
    Strung Weight: 11.2oz / 317.51g
    Strung Weight Extended Version: 11.3oz / 320.35g
    Balance: 13.04in / 33.12cm / 4 pts HL
    Balance Extended Version: 13.46in / 34.18cm / 2 pts HL
    Swingweight: 318
    Swingweight Extended Version: 334
    Stiffness: 67
    Beam Width: 22mm / 24mm / 22mm /
    Composition: Graphite
    Power Level: Low
    Stroke Style: Full
    Swing Speed: Fast
    Racquet Colors:
    3 Different Cosmetics Options
    Grip Type: Dunlop Synthetic
    String Pattern:
    16 Mains / 19 Crosses
    Mains skip: 7T,9T,7H,9H
    Two Pieces
    No Shared Holes
    String Tension: 52-62 pounds
     
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  21. jonestim

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    Also a 105 version:

    Head Size: 105 sq. in. / 677 sq. cm.
    Length: 27.00 inches / 68.58 cm
    Strung Weight: 10.94 oz / 310 g
    Balance: 2pts HL
    Swing Weight: 315
    Beam Width: 26.0mm
    Tip/Shaft: 24.0mm / 24.0mm
    Composition: Graphite
    Power Level: Medium
    String Pattern: 16 Mains/19 Crosses
    Main Skip: 7T,9T,7H,9H
    String Tension: 52-62
     
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  22. vsbabolat

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    I'd be down with that and a flex of 63RA.
     
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  23. LeeD

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    Somebody invented lead weight in a peel off roll with stickyback.
    11 oz, 63 RA, 320 SW is easily achieved with some of the above.
    Who cares what color it is, how it plays is everything.
    Rackets have always be modular, so now they offer it as an option.
     
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  24. Rozroz

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    funny. no ad on Dunlop's own site? :\
     
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  25. Fed Kennedy

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    They seem like all thick beams. Bummer. Nice paint though.
     
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  26. Fed Kennedy

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    Where do you find these specs?
     
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  27. Roddickulous

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    Yup they're all widebodies. That's what sells.
     
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  28. THESEXPISTOL

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    Pretty much the same around where i'm at...
     
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  30. jonestim

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    Google had found TW's page on that racquet and still had it cached. TW had already removed their page, and the page down and it can no longer be found in Google's cache as of this morning.
     
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  32. Fed Kennedy

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    Its a blunder for them to not sell the tool to the public. I dont have to walk into an apple store every time i make a playlist... Blunder
     
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  33. Fed Kennedy

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    The strangest thing for me is that they seem to have created a 98 inch pure drive...
     
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  34. jonestim

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    +1. As a consumer I would like to buy one of the heads (the 98), both handle lengths and all three shock sleeves, then mess around. I don't think my local dealer carries Dunlop, so there would be no place for me to go to change it out.
     
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  35. THESEXPISTOL

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    The tool will be replicated by some China manufacture in no time...
     
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  36. Roddickulous

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    All you'll need is an extra long hex key set in order to unscrew the handle. No room for silicone though. Personally I plan on trying all three shock sleeves.
     
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  38. Fed Kennedy

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    Any reviews on the pure drive 98?
     
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  39. mongo

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    What I know

    I have received an invite to the intro of the idapt from my local shop owner. I couldn't wait to see(hopefully and hit the stick) so I stopped in the other day to get the skinny and here's what I was told: He wasn't going to receive stock until Thurs 8/14 w/ the intro scheduled for Fri 8/15. He had one idapt he made at the meeting in NOLA but he was play testing it and trying different tensions and strings and was lending it out(RATS). He said the play, feel and performance are quite similar to a PD and APD. He set his up with the middle feel. Since he didn't have the tool or other parts he was temporarily locked in to the one he made but plans to all the different combos available on Fri. He felt that this was a long time coming and finally the non pro would have the ability to fashion a racket that would be to them has the pro have done for decades. The idea, as I understand it, is to have a hands on experience at your local shop who has been trained by Dunlop to help the player find the right combination through demos. He said he would be receiving 12 demos that he was going to set up differently so players could try the different feels in the different head sizes and even change them as customers want certain grip sizes and feels before they demo them. As he said no more trying the wrong grip size on the demo. I saw pictures of the colors and they rock. He also said there are predetermined places marked on the racket where weights that Dunlop has created can be placed to change the weight and stability quickly and easily. He said it was not lead but a nontoxic material. He felt that one of the many values to the idea was the ability to change the feel and handle size and even the length of the racket quickly and with relatively low cost in the shop very quickly. He said the whole process will take under 2 mins. We'll see about that. If this is true and the rackets play as described this would be awesome and I WANT ONE! I agree. It's about time. we, the everyday no pros get some of the technology and advantages that the pros get.
     
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  41. CHOcobo

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    How is the stability between the neck and the handle? Seems like that is the weakest joint and could eventually go loose. Too bad they don't have the classic frames.
     
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  42. MikeHitsHard93

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    To be quite honest, these look pretty sweet. Dunlop has taken the cake for most innovative this year with iDAPT, imo.
     
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  43. eelhc

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    I think it's basically a separable version of Babolat's Cortex technology. Should be OK.

    I would like to have seen some ability to add weight at different points in the handle without having to take the grip off though.

    Unfortunately I would never buy one unless the tool is available for purchase to the public as well. It just looks like a calibrated torque tool so maybe I can make due with the tools I already have unless it's a weird security bit.
     
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  44. BuggyDub

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    Love all the different cosmetics, but it's a bummer they are all so stiff. Also, the demo process will take forever with these, if you really want to explore all the different combos.
     
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  45. Fed Kennedy

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    The high swingweights and low static weights of the extended frames makes for some interesting possibilities
     
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  46. MikeHitsHard93

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    Yeah, I think I'd go extended 98"
     
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  47. A_Instead

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    I hope the extended length models are an success and spawns market interest to entice other manufactures to offer extended length rackets..
     
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    Exactly. The best part of this concept is the ability customize and adjust the setup which is totally ruined if you have to go to dealer or mail it in to get it adjusted.

    Just imagine the possibilities if they eventually find a way to include adjustable weight ports like golf clubs. You could tweak your racquet to match court makeup, conditions, or even your opponent. I guess we will have to wait until future generations of iDapt or another manufacturer improves upon the concept and creates a user adjustable product.
     
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  49. yellowoctopus

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    This is quite a risky move for Dunlop Tennis, perhaps a revolutionary one. Or it could become one of the product lines that we all faintly remember five or more years from now. Either way I applaud the Dunlop Tennis team for this contribution.

    Unfortunately the fate of iDapt will not be determined solely on how well it performs, but rather how well it is perceived by the consumers. I am also rather skeptical about the connection between the frame and the handle--will it need periodic tightening and will it eventually wear out, etc. But the concept is unique enough that I will probably give it a ring or two.

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  50. GoSurfBoy

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    Hit with the 98 last night, long grip, medium damper. Strung with Dunlop Explosive (one of the best, most underrated strings, I think).

    Fabulous frame. Rock solid. Fast, easy, and loose off both sides. BIG serves (even though I'm nursing an injury).

    Only had 20 minutes - injury - and the rep had to leave.

    You'd never know it was a component. I was told they've let people play them - and THEN separated the racket, so they wouldn't go out with some silly, preconceived notion.
     
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