Official mlb 2016 thread

T1000

Legend
spring training starts today lets goooooooo

Never seen an mlb thread besides the playoffs one we did last year and it was kinda popular so starting a regular season thread for this season
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Even-year SFG loaded for young Bear hunting in the NL. Hard to pick an AL team to challenge the very solid KCR.

Repeat of '14 WS. SFG in 7.
 

T1000

Legend
One more week til the season starts. Not feeling good about the bullpen or middle infield defense and lack of a backup third baseman. Should've signed uribe or freese
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
The Bucs shut down the Cards for the first win of the year in frigid Pittsburgh. Scary close for Melancon ruins the shutout but he gets the job done in the end.

The NL Central is gonna be a dogfight!
 

T1000

Legend
Defensive errors lose it again for the mets. At least it wasn't the middle infield this time
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
I know they say this every year for the past couple.

But I really feel like the nationals will have the break through and actually be good this year.

I'm really looking forward to the Marlins and how Bonds gets these guys hitting. The guy knows how to hit and I really think is going to do a great job.
 

T1000

Legend
each nl division looks like a three team race if they stay healthy

Mets/nationals/Marlins
Cubs/cardinals/pirates
Giants/Dodgers/Diamondbacks

I think the Marlins will fizzle out in late June early iuly they just have too many bad players cuz loria is cheap. The nl west is just which team stays healthy they're all pretty equal. Cubs and cardinals are the clear favorites in the central for the division and a wild card pirates have a shot but they got worse.

Mets
Cubs
Giants

Cardinals
Nationals

That's how I think it ends up. Nationals have an easier schedule and should pick up more wins than Pitt and I see Pitt losing more to the cards and Cubs this year. Dodgers lost greinke and have a ton of mediocre injury prone starters behind kershaw. They have the talent on the field and in the bullpen to beat out the Giants but the Giants rotation is better. Dbacks lost pollock already that's a killer.
 

insideguy

Legend
On another note can someone please get rid of that crappy tampa bay stadium! Aggggggg. There are so many great ballparks in baseball right now and that thing just keeps showing up every year. Its like watching a game from some crap park in 1985.
 

beltsman

Legend
On another note can someone please get rid of that crappy tampa bay stadium! Aggggggg. There are so many great ballparks in baseball right now and that thing just keeps showing up every year. Its like watching a game from some crap park in 1985.
It truly is a horrific stadium.
 

beltsman

Legend
each nl division looks like a three team race if they stay healthy

Mets/nationals/Marlins
Cubs/cardinals/pirates
Giants/Dodgers/Diamondbacks

I think the Marlins will fizzle out in late June early iuly they just have too many bad players cuz loria is cheap. The nl west is just which team stays healthy they're all pretty equal. Cubs and cardinals are the clear favorites in the central for the division and a wild card pirates have a shot but they got worse.

Mets
Cubs
Giants

Cardinals
Nationals

That's how I think it ends up. Nationals have an easier schedule and should pick up more wins than Pitt and I see Pitt losing more to the cards and Cubs this year. Dodgers lost greinke and have a ton of mediocre injury prone starters behind kershaw. They have the talent on the field and in the bullpen to beat out the Giants but the Giants rotation is better. Dbacks lost pollock already that's a killer.
I'm not as down on the Dodgers as you, but we'll see. The wildcard races should be really exciting for sure.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Hard to play 9 vs 13 for the Yankees as the umps got together to ruin a 2-2 tie vs the Astros in the top of the eighth.

It started with a dribbler down the first base line from Correa, who ran a full yard inside the grass along the baseline. Neither home ump DeMuth or the 1st base ump called him out for interference as Betances throw sailed over the bag and out of reach for a throwing error that scored Altuve from second.

DeMuth then missed a called strike three to end the inning that was way within the "K" zone. One pitch later, a single scored two more.
 

T1000

Legend
6 innings 3 hits 1 walk no runs 9 k's against the toughest team to strike out. Thor is gonna finish the year top 5 in cy young voting nasty stuff by him Henderson Reed and familia to shut out the royals
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
6 innings 3 hits 1 walk no runs 9 k's against the toughest team to strike out. Thor is gonna finish the year top 5 in cy young voting nasty stuff by him Henderson Reed and familia to shut out the royals
Was all forgiven by KC Royal Crybabies for the high and tight WS pitch???
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
Well I guess we just saw this new rule enforced in the Jays-Tampa game. It'll take a while for the players to get used to this because they've been taught their whole lives to do whatever it takes to break up a double play.
 

insideguy

Legend
Well I guess we just saw this new rule enforced in the Jays-Tampa game. It'll take a while for the players to get used to this because they've been taught their whole lives to do whatever it takes to break up a double playy.
Saw nothing wrong with that call. The runner tried to grab the fielder and actually did. Its obvious. Whats funny is toronto acting like it was a basic slide. Bfs.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
Saw nothing wrong with that call. The runner tried to grab the fielder and actually did. Its obvious. Whats funny is toronto acting like it was a basic slide. Bfs.
What I didn't like about it was that they reversed it so completely into a DP that ended the game. They've left too much discretion to the umpire on a play like that where EE may have been safe at first anyway. I have no doubt that Bautista reached out with his arm, but what if Forsythe makes a bad throw regardless and/or EE beats it out? You can't tell me that the umpire knows those 2 things beyond the shadow of a doubt.

Gregg Zaun said it best: "This is not 12 year olds wearing cleats for the first time. It's major league baseball.

But I can't say I was surprised. I had a bad feeling the minute they went to a review and saw Bautista reach out with his arm. My exact words were "They'll reverse this just to "make a statement." Umpires and refs in all sports love influencing the game.
 

insideguy

Legend
What I didn't like about it was that they reversed it so completely into a DP that ended the game. They've left too much discretion to the umpire on a play like that where EE may have been safe at first anyway. I have no doubt that Bautista reached out with his arm, but what if Forsythe makes a bad throw regardless and/or EE beats it out? You can't tell me that the umpire knows those 2 things beyond the shadow of a doubt.

Gregg Zaun said it best: "This is not 12 year olds wearing cleats for the first time. It's major league baseball.

But I can't say I was surprised. I had a bad feeling the minute they went to a review and saw Bautista reach out with his arm. My exact words were "They'll reverse this just to "make a statement." Umpires and refs in all sports love influencing the game.
The ump has no choice but to make the call the way he did. If runner did in fact interfere then ump has to call runner going to first out. Period.
 

T1000

Legend
The ump has no choice but to make the call the way he did. If runner did in fact interfere then ump has to call runner going to first out. Period.
This. The whole point is to discourage break up slides that's not gonna happen if there's a chance that the ump calls the runner at first safe if you try a break up slide lol. They have to call a double play to make the rule effective.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
The ump has no choice but to make the call the way he did. If runner did in fact interfere then ump has to call runner going to first out. Period.
In that case, the rule itself is faulty. And if you thought it was bad coming out of Toronto, just wait until it happens in August, September, October to the Yankees or Red Sox or Cubs or Cardinals or Mets. You won't hear the end of it if what we saw last night decides a WS on a slide that was legal last year.

Last year we saw guys getting injured on dirty slides, hence the basis of this rule change, but that's not what happened last night. Bautista had no real intent to injure Forsythe. I mean, if you can't slide like Bautista did, how do you slide anymore? The more I see the replay of this the more it looks like a regulation slide that guys have been doing since the game was invented. He could've tucked his arm in, but I think that's being really picky on what was a relatively safe slide.

And I've seen much tougher DP's turned than the one Forysthe quite frankly botched last night. You can't discourage "break up" slides. They've happened forever and will continue to happen. What you have to discourage is a dirty slide with an intent to injure.
 
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stringertom

Bionic Poster
The hypocrisy of instant replay usage...MLB is supposedly concerned with speeding the game up but they're getting bogged down by challenges and replays. Why this overrule and not reviewing the obvious blown non-call of interference in the Yankee/Astro game? If you're going to use it, use it whenever it's effective. Otherwise, go back to HR/non-HR judgement calls only and get on with speeding up the game.
 

insideguy

Legend
In that case, the rule itself is faulty. And if you thought it was bad coming out of Toronto, just wait until it happens in August, September, October to the Yankees or Red Sox or Cubs or Cardinals or Mets. You won't hear the end of it if what we saw last night decides a WS on a slide that was legal last year.

Last year we saw guys getting injured on dirty slides, hence the basis of this rule change, but that's not what happened last night. Bautista had no real intent to injure Forsythe. I mean, if you can't slide like Bautista did, how do you slide anymore? The more I see the replay of this the more it looks like a regulation slide that guys have been doing since the game was invented. He could've tucked his arm in, but I think that's being really picky on what was a relatively safe slide.

And I've seen much tougher DP's turned than the one Forysthe quite frankly botched last night.
But he did intend to interfere with the turning of the double play by grabbing fielders foot. Therefore they made the right call. If he slides and does not grab fielders foot then call is not made. There should be no controversy here. Toronto is pissed cause they lost game. But it was a good call.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
But he did intend to interfere with the turning of the double play by grabbing fielders foot. Therefore they made the right call. If he slides and does not grab fielders foot then call is not made. There should be no controversy here. Toronto is pissed cause they lost game. But it was a good call.
That's a play that's happened since baseball was invented though. You can't discourage a break up slide. What they should be discouraging is a dirty slide with an intent to injure.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
You mean the World Series Champions? I think you have them mislabeled. Sorry for the butthurt over the loss.
Didn't have a dog in that fight so I'm not butthurt but that whole bench erupting over what is just baseball and then publicly promising retaliation smacked of nursery school behavior.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
In Colorado the story is historic...rookie Trevor Story became the first player in the modern era (post 1900) to hit four homers in his first three games.

Starlin Castro, traded from the Cubs to the Yankees, has made a bit of history too...he is the first player to get 7 RBI in his first two games with a new team.

Who's your Padre? In San Diego, it's whatever Dodger pitcher is on the mound! Three games, three shutouts. LAD need six more shutout innings to set a new record for consecutive scoreless innings pitched.
 

beltsman

Legend
Man I just loving having baseball going on. Put it on in the background, or on the radio, it's so relaxing. And I love checking every morning the scores, stats, and highlights. Ahhh I'm so glad it's back. Can't wait to hit up some games this summer!
 

T1000

Legend
Man I just loving having baseball going on. Put it on in the background, or on the radio, it's so relaxing. And I love checking every morning the scores, stats, and highlights. Ahhh I'm so glad it's back. Can't wait to hit up some games this summer!
Agreed by far the best radio sport.

What games do you usually go to? Haven't been to citi yet wanna get down there. Have been to the old Yankee stadium and Shea. Used to go to the new haven Ravens games (A team) but they left a long time ago. Sometimes hit up the Binghamton games cuz minor leagues are awesome. Get to see upcoming talent and they're cheaper and better seats
 

beltsman

Legend
Agreed by far the best radio sport.

What games do you usually go to? Haven't been to citi yet wanna get down there. Have been to the old Yankee stadium and Shea. Used to go to the new haven Ravens games (A team) but they left a long time ago. Sometimes hit up the Binghamton games cuz minor leagues are awesome. Get to see upcoming talent and they're cheaper and better seats
Hmm I've attended games at...

old Yankees Stadium
Texas Rangers
Old Milwaukee County
Miller Park
Pittsburgh
Nationals Park
RFK (old Nats stadium)
Camden Yards
Puerto Rico (saw the Expos, whatever that stadium was called)

Bunch of minor league ones too. And I might be forgetting some of the major league ones. I'd like to go to all of them.

I've visited quite a bunch more, but haven't seen games there. Wrigley, Fenway, Giants, Houston, White Sox, Braves, Rays, Marlins, Cinci, off the top of my head (visited but didn't see a game).
 

insideguy

Legend
Agreed by far the best radio sport.

What games do you usually go to? Haven't been to citi yet wanna get down there. Have been to the old Yankee stadium and Shea. Used to go to the new haven Ravens games (A team) but they left a long time ago. Sometimes hit up the Binghamton games cuz minor leagues are awesome. Get to see upcoming talent and they're cheaper and better seats
Ive been to
Wrigley
Three rivers
Pnc park
Coors field
Isoptopes park
Safeco
And barcelona olympic baseball park lol those were the days hehe
 

T1000

Legend
Noah syndergod vs Jose Fernandez at citi tonight. not gonna find many better pitching duels this year
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
The story is still Story in Colorado...seven homers in his first six games and he goes for more tonight vs the Giants and their new hurler Jeff Samarzdija.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Great pitching today from Phillies' Velasquez, Cardinals' Garcia (both complete game shutouts, the latter a one-hitter) and Indians' Salazar (six innings of shutout ball).
 

T1000

Legend
Mets offense stating to wake up. De aza, conforto, cespedes and walker all hit homeruns. Collins shows he still can't manage a bullpen tho that's gonna kill us in the playoffs if we get there again
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Good to see both the Braves and the Twins finally win before getting to dreadful double digits in the loss column. Both had to come from behind.
 

insideguy

Legend
How was Barcelona?
It was actually pretty cool. It was built like a triple aaa park only thing i didnt like was netting all the way down the foul lines. But i understood cause people who dont normally watch baseball would get killed. Its probably a soccer field now lol.
 

beltsman

Legend
It was actually pretty cool. It was built like a triple aaa park only thing i didnt like was netting all the way down the foul lines. But i understood cause people who dont normally watch baseball would get killed. Its probably a soccer field now lol.
Interesting, any pics?
 

beltsman

Legend
Oh man that was 1992 i think i have some old camera film pics somewhere. Nothing digitial. I dont really know why they took baseball out of the olympics in the first place. Other than thw pros not playing.
Ah don't worry about it, you don't need to dig anything up!

I agree, baseball should be in the Olympics. The World Baseball Classic is okay though.
 
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