Discussion in 'Shoes and Apparel' started by anhuynh16, Jan 2, 2014.
Even Nike reps are admitting now that Lunarlon breaks down. Maybe that's why they don't make a durable outsole for it! Lol
Dunno, might never broke down and I started to like more then the previous air ballistec models (4.3 etc)
Nike's own cushioning innovation director says Lunarlon breaks down. That's why they are combining it with Zoom now.
http://www.si.com/nba/2015/04/03/investigating-sneaker-cushioning-nike-adidas-jordan (see the section on Lunarlon)
Even on the Nike forums they trash Lunarlon. About the only good thing they say about Lunarlon is it's good for casual wear. I would take that as a backhanded compliment.
lunarlon is a pretty basic set up, which is why it was always a slap in the face to stick it in that shoe and price it at $165.
I hunt for sales for mine, under 100, be it funky colors, but they are getting harder to find.
Are these really getting retired? If so how soon? Is there anything past the tart color that’s already on clearance (and all white)? Is there a USO black/red?
As many issues as this shoe has I’ve grown to rely on them for stability and comfort for extended training.
No replacement, just phased out. Nadal to endorse Cage 3 which is supposed to be more of a universal fit.
No USO version?
There's a USO version coming out.
Thanks, helps me figure out a plan to stockpile. Not sure the Cage 3 or the new Resistance is going to cut it as a replacement. Would love for Nike to bring back at least one Air Max model or one full length (or heel AND forefoot) zoom model.
*Ultra React excluded, the single separate forefoot pod is not comparable to the full width forefoot zoom of older models.
The cage 3 is it's only replacement. The resistance is just a Nike budget end of a shoe. Like the Air Zoom Ultra.
That's too bad. I have several pairs of the LB. Unless they change the fit of the Cage it isn't the same as the LB. Where the LB is more like a medium to slightly wide fit, the Cage was very roomy on my fit. Unfortunately the new Zoom React line seems to be a replacement, but it seems so stiff in the forefoot. Might have to go to the Vapors.
I heard the Cage 3 are a slightly wide. The Zoom React is okay fit. Wide enough for my feet. That one I consider as a replacement for the Lunars but I'm stocking up some Lunars before it's out of production.
Hope the Cage 3 is less wide than the Cage 2.
Didn't like the Cage 2. The length of kinda too short for me even after a slight break in. At least that one wasn't as bad as the Barricade 8+. I felt like the B8+ jammed my toes a lot. The only Adidas pair I've ever tried.
A lot of their other technology such as Max Air & Shox don't really fit in the area of tennis shoes. I like the feel of their Lunarlon in the LB but as you & others have stated it would be great if they had included Zoom Air in the LB line as it's a premium, top of the line shoe of their tennis line. If they had Lunarlon + front & rear Zoom Air in the LB, then Zoom Air in the Cage & Vapors it would make more sense in categorizing their line. Lunarlon is similar to Adiprene+ or Bounce in Adidas or Charged Cushioning in UA, etc. Just in a $180-$200 shoe it should have Nike's kitchen sink thrown in it.
You make some good points. A $200 shoe should definitely have their best technology, although I'm not sure that all the players at the pro level want Zoom because they value court feel. Maybe one of those tiny Zoom units buried in the heel would work for them, but that's really like having no Zoom at all. It would be more "fair" if Nike priced the LB's the $100-120 range but that's not happening. One thing they are good at is asking as much as they can get.
CB 4.3 technically had Air Max and lunar in forefoot. Air Max did well in tennis from the Spa2 in mid 90s thru 2014 with the Cage that had Air Max. Not the best for everyone but nice to have that option. (Delpo and Nadal still prefer those soles)
Yeah when has Nike ever made a shoe line LESS expensive ?!? Haha. I also use the Vapor's & do not notice any loss of court feel w/ the Zoom Air so I think they could've at least added the rear unit, but I think that was Nike's attempt to delineate the lines a bit...Vapors w/ Zoom Air, LB w/ Lunarlon, but given the higher cost/premium of the Ballistecs they should have done more w/ the line.
Yeah, the Zoom Air is supposed the next advancement in their air line, hence the phasing out of the Air Max technology. Though the Air Max gives better cushioning than the Zoom Air line I know the knock on it was that it wasn't nearly as stable & when I used to work in a shoe store many people brought them back because it popped/durability issue.
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