Official Nike Zoom Vapor 9.5 Thread

Posters act as though everyone has one foot type! The Vapor X is not even close to the 9.5 in terms of comfort for me; it felt way too tight. The Vapor Pro is also not as good as the 9.5 as my heel doesn't lock in.

Our feet must be similar! 9.5 is my goat. I like the X but it’s very tight and took getting used for me. Hate the short laces too. I have the same heel lock issue with the Vapor Pro. I wear thicker socks and use it for clay; unusable for me on hard courts.
 
Interesting… Federer, who said that improvements mean he no longer needs to wear in a shoe but can “pull a fresh pair of the Vapor Xs out of the box and play five sets, no problem,” has been running through a new pair every three or four matches.
He did however prefer to keep the 9.5 outsole. ‍♂️
 
Does anyone know why Nike chose to release the 9.5 as opposed to the 9 or X?

The 9/9.5 were exceptionally well received, and people loved them. The X was fine, and when it was released, it was the closest thing to the 9/9.5.

But it was the 9/9.5 that well well received enough to have 4 year product cycle. I don't think many other apparel products, which tends to be extremely trendy and "needs to get with the time" have that long of a product cycle.
 

colan5934

Professional
Interesting… Federer, who said that improvements mean he no longer needs to wear in a shoe but can “pull a fresh pair of the Vapor Xs out of the box and play five sets, no problem,” has been running through a new pair every three or four matches.
He did however prefer to keep the 9.5 outsole. ‍♂
Fed used an old Vapor outsole…the Vapor Speed, I believe. With custom widths for sure and upper similar to retail models from Vapor 9 onward. His rubber compounds may have been different, and the retail durability components like toe bumper/mudguard were not always present or the same material.

Doesn’t mean the vapor 9.5 (that this thread is about…) wasn’t an awesome shoe at the time - excited to eventually compare to the vapor pro and other speed shoes on the market - but the 9, 9.5, and X retail models were not what fed used on foot. Do you have a source for where he said this? I’m curious what context it was pulled from.
 
Fed used an old Vapor outsole…the Vapor Speed, I believe. With custom widths for sure and upper similar to retail models from Vapor 9 onward. His rubber compounds may have been different, and the retail durability components like toe bumper/mudguard were not always present or the same material.

Doesn’t mean the vapor 9.5 (that this thread is about…) wasn’t an awesome shoe at the time - excited to eventually compare to the vapor pro and other speed shoes on the market - but the 9, 9.5, and X retail models were not what fed used on foot. Do you have a source for where he said this? I’m curious what context it was pulled from.
My point is the X minus whatever outsole/shank(preference) and still worn on tour was the closest shoe retail would ever get to feds actual shoe …. Not the 9/9.5
 

GN-001

Semi-Pro
Bought two pairs of the new 9.5s. I've never purchased shoes at retail but these were and still are the best tennis shoes I've ever worn so I pulled the trigger ($170 x 2 OUCH). I started tennis with the vapor 6, then 7, 8, 9 and 9.5 but stopped wearing Nike after that as the X didnt feel as nice as the 9.5s. I've been trying alot of other brands since (Diadora, Mizuno, Babolat etc) and never found anything quite like it. I was sad I never stocked up on them but happy now they've rereleased it.

I love the comfort and light feel of the 9.5s, alot of shoemakers now try to cut down weight by making thin tongues, the 9.5s thick tongue makes it so comfortable and I never feel the laces. I feel just as fast in them as I did in 2014. I know it's not the most durable so I only use them for competition.

For those looking for alternatives, if you can find it, get the Le Coq LCS-T01 (mostly available in EU), I've compared it next to a Vapor 9.5 and worn them on each foot, it's honestly as if Le Coq copied the Vapor because it looks and feels 90% the same (minus the Vapor fingers/adaptive fit) and I bought it at half the price of the new Vapor. I can't get anymore of the Le Coq now but if I could I would get that instead of paying for the Vapor. The shape is so similar, the materials are similar, the design is similar, the fit is similar

Review:

I wonder if it's just a one time rerelease or will they have other colorways?
 
Bought two pairs of the new 9.5s. I've never purchased shoes at retail but these were and still are the best tennis shoes I've ever worn so I pulled the trigger ($170 x 2 OUCH). I started tennis with the vapor 6, then 7, 8, 9 and 9.5 but stopped wearing Nike after that as the X didnt feel as nice as the 9.5s. I've been trying alot of other brands since (Diadora, Mizuno, Babolat etc) and never found anything quite like it. I was sad I never stocked up on them but happy now they've rereleased it.

I love the comfort and light feel of the 9.5s, alot of shoemakers now try to cut down weight by making thin tongues, the 9.5s thick tongue makes it so comfortable and I never feel the laces. I feel just as fast in them as I did in 2014. I know it's not the most durable so I only use them for competition.

For those looking for alternatives, if you can find it, get the Le Coq LCS-T01 (mostly available in EU), I've compared it next to a Vapor 9.5 and worn them on each foot, it's honestly as if Le Coq copied the Vapor because it looks and feels 90% the same (minus the Vapor fingers/adaptive fit) and I bought it at half the price of the new Vapor. I can't get anymore of the Le Coq now but if I could I would get that instead of paying for the Vapor. The shape is so similar, the materials are similar, the design is similar, the fit is similar

Review:

I wonder if it's just a one time rerelease or will they have other colorways?
There will be more colorways…an all white heritage for sure. After that iDK
 

OldManStan

Rookie
Bought the shoes for the sake of having 9.5s back in my shoe rotation.
Will let you know how they are in 9 months after my ACL surgery. :-D
 

colan5934

Professional
My point is the X minus whatever outsole/shank(preference) and still worn on tour was the closest shoe retail would ever get to feds actual shoe …. Not the 9/9.5
His 9/9.5/9.5 knit uppers were the same base construction as retail too. And the underfoot construction was the same as when he had the X uppers. Vapor 6 upper he used until the 9, I believe, same midsole/outsole tooling. So I don’t know what point this makes. The vapor line is a great shoe at retail regardless of Fed’s endorsement. Not everybody’s cup of tea but nothing is.
 
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Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
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Bobby Jr

G.O.A.T.
My sense is the 9.5 was better-received than the X. I certainly preferred them.
Annoyingly though, the 9.5 was a cheap and nasty iteration of the 9. There was nothing better functionally about it but a fair bit was worse. They just changed so they could make the shoes much cheaper and charge the same price based on the ability to have prints/patterns over more of the shoe. Compared to the 9 they were plastic-y, flimsy rubbish.
 
Annoyingly though, the 9.5 was a cheap and nasty iteration of the 9. There was nothing better functionally about it but a fair bit was worse. They just changed so they could make the shoes much cheaper and charge the same price based on the ability to have prints/patterns over more of the shoe. Compared to the 9 they were plastic-y, flimsy rubbish.
This!
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
Annoyingly though, the 9.5 was a cheap and nasty iteration of the 9. There was nothing better functionally about it but a fair bit was worse. They just changed so they could make the shoes much cheaper and charge the same price based on the ability to have prints/patterns over more of the shoe. Compared to the 9 they were plastic-y, flimsy rubbish.

I've played in both, and I never noticed any performance difference between the two. I don't doubt that it's easier to print on the on the 9.5s, but the idea that they are "flimsy rubbish" is ridiculous.
 

MicroPuff

New User
From a product photography perspective, I can see that all the seams (gaps) and lines to this Vapor 9.5 look a bit sloppy when you compare it to their other shoes, ie. pegasus running shoes or their latest line of tennis shoes.
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
For those of you capitalists and free marketers: why is the Vapor 9.5 the most expensive tennis shoe Nike is selling even though it's an old model (the research and design costs are surely less for it than the newer 11s)? Does inflation justify the "very fair" price of $170?
 
For those of you capitalists and free marketers: why is the Vapor 9.5 the most expensive tennis shoe Nike is selling even though it's an old model (the research and design costs are surely less for it than the newer 11s)? Does inflation justify the "very fair" price of $170?
VP1 is a better shoe for a far better price.

This is just Nike ripping off its nostalgic consumers for an overrated product. The inflation argument is ridiculous.
 
I guess for me personally.... I would hope that manufacturing efficiencies and getting Fed off the marketing budget would bring it down a bit (a la Vapor Pro with an MSRP of 120 instead of 130)

That's understandable and from an efficiencies standpoint, yeah, there may have been a way to reduce the cost of production. However, Nike could have easily:
1) Not bring this back
2) Bring this back for higher adjusted 2023 price

So the fact that we're getting this shoe back for what is equivalent of its original MSRP back in 2014 is already a win for me.

As for the Vapor "Pro" line, doesn't that just highlight how cheap that shoe is, and why no one really got on board?
 

Rally

Professional
Exactly... so why are people complaining about the price?
Likely because salaries have not appreciated at the same rate as inflation of goods has, so people are stuck making the decision between $170 for Vapors that die in 10 hours of play or $150 for a more durable shoe that dies in 3-4 months and using the extra $20 on other stuff that has gotten a lot more expensive like eggs, meat, and bread.

edit: I don't mean for this to sound argumentative, so I apologize if it comes across that way. This is a very real grievance for us consumers though.
 
That's understandable and from an efficiencies standpoint, yeah, there may have been a way to reduce the cost of production. However, Nike could have easily:
1) Not bring this back
2) Bring this back for higher adjusted 2023 price

So the fact that we're getting this shoe back for what is equivalent of its original MSRP back in 2014 is already a win for me.

As for the Vapor "Pro" line, doesn't that just highlight how cheap that shoe is, and why no one really got on board?
You mean the vp1 that rune Fritz and Alcaraz and the vp2 that rublev and KK are wearing?
Why aren’t they wearing the 9.5s since they are so great and now readily available?
 
Likely because salaries have not appreciated at the same rate as inflation of goods has, so people are stuck making the decision between $170 for Vapors that die in 10 hours of play or $150 for a more durable shoe that dies in 3-4 months and using the extra $20 on other stuff that has gotten a lot more expensive like eggs, meat, and bread.

edit: I don't mean for this to sound argumentative, so I apologize if it comes across that way. This is a very real grievance for us consumers though.
Don’t forget the outrageous price of tennis balls. Ffs
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
Likely because salaries have not appreciated at the same rate as inflation of goods has, so people are stuck making the decision between $170 for Vapors that die in 10 hours of play or $150 for a more durable shoe that dies in 3-4 months and using the extra $20 on other stuff that has gotten a lot more expensive like eggs, meat, and bread.

edit: I don't mean for this to sound argumentative, so I apologize if it comes across that way. This is a very real grievance for us consumers though.

Nothing plays like the 9.5 though, look at the amount of players still using them.

Nike may have rebooted it for the consumer just so they could continue supplying the Mannarinos of the world.
 

fox

Professional
Nothing plays like the 9.5 though, look at the amount of players still using them.

Nike may have rebooted it for the consumer just so they could continue supplying the Mannarinos of the world.
Cmon there are many shoes that are better. I know this is nostalgia factor but cmon.
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
Cmon there are many shoes that are better. I know this is nostalgia factor but cmon.

I've moved on but many pros haven't

I realized I liked the feel of Vapors better, but played better in Cages, so I buy really heavy/cushioned shoes now
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
They shouldn't be priced at $170; it's an insult to Nike's tennis customers. They're a great shoe, and I like them far more than the Vapor Pros, but moves like this make me want to leave Nike Tennis behind.

Nike should continue making the Vapor 9.5 indefinitely in white and black and price it at $120.
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
They shouldn't be priced at $170; it's an insult to Nike's tennis customers. They're a great shoe, and I like them far more than the Vapor Pros, but moves like this make me want to leave Nike Tennis behind.

Nike should continue making the Vapor 9.5 indefinitely in white and black and price it at $120.

An insult would be not bringing them back at all after so many of us asked.
 
Played with my new ones for the first time tonight. Was so great to be back in a new pair. Had everything I love about the Vapor X without being too tight and have laces that aren’t incredibly short. I love everything but the color, so I’m hoping that they have decent color ways coming out. Honestly, I’m just wearing Vapor 9.5 and the Roger Pro now. Other shoes just don’t compare for my feet. Vapor Pro just doesn’t lock my heel down and I get heel/ankle pain soon after using them.
 

PrinceYonex

Semi-Pro
Played with my new ones for the first time tonight. Was so great to be back in a new pair. Had everything I love about the Vapor X without being too tight and have laces that aren’t incredibly short. I love everything but the color, so I’m hoping that they have decent color ways coming out. Honestly, I’m just wearing Vapor 9.5 and the Roger Pro now. Other shoes just don’t compare for my feet. Vapor Pro just doesn’t lock my heel down and I get heel/ankle pain soon after using them.
I was just going to ask for some comparisons between the 9.5 and the X. Any other thoughts on this?
 
Likely because salaries have not appreciated at the same rate as inflation of goods has, so people are stuck making the decision between $170 for Vapors that die in 10 hours of play or $150 for a more durable shoe that dies in 3-4 months and using the extra $20 on other stuff that has gotten a lot more expensive like eggs, meat, and bread.

edit: I don't mean for this to sound argumentative, so I apologize if it comes across that way. This is a very real grievance for us consumers though.
That's a fair point. And it's a matter of priorities. People buy new sporting outfits to go with the seasonal trends, and maybe their playing style allows for more longevity in their shoes. But for me, I haven't bought a new sporting outfit in years. But if there's a consumable footwear that I like, especially if my all time favorite comes back. I'm going to be stocking up and I'll skip tennis clothes for another 5 years to make up for that.
 
You mean the vp1 that rune Fritz and Alcaraz and the vp2 that rublev and KK are wearing?
Why aren’t they wearing the 9.5s since they are so great and now readily available?
Because the shoe was before their time? What 20 year old would chase an old design when they weren't exposed to it at the height of the initial release? You wear what you're accustomed to.

Go look for any of the Pros that wore 9/9.5 when they were available, and check and see if they're still wearing them now. I'll wait.
 
I was just going to ask for some comparisons between the 9.5 and the X. Any other thoughts on this?
9.5 feels lighter, but I’m not sure if it is…tight fit of the X might be causing that. The X also has that slightly inward tilt that may account for why the fit is a little “clunkier.” I’ve heard the tilt is to help prevent rolling ankles, but it does bother me a bit. Laces on X are really short, so I always think I need to re-tie them at some point. For whatever reason, the laces hold but mentally, I’m always expecting the shoes to loosen up. X fits tighter which is uncomfortable to put on, but they feel good while playing. The 9.5 is a little less tight, but feel like a slipper to play in…just tight in all the right places and feel light on the feet.
 
9.5 feels lighter, but I’m not sure if it is…tight fit of the X might be causing that. The X also has that slightly inward tilt that may account for why the fit is a little “clunkier.” I’ve heard the tilt is to help prevent rolling ankles, but it does bother me a bit. Laces on X are really short, so I always think I need to re-tie them at some point. For whatever reason, the laces hold but mentally, I’m always expecting the shoes to loosen up. X fits tighter which is uncomfortable to put on, but they feel good while playing. The 9.5 is a little less tight, but feel like a slipper to play in…just tight in all the right places and feel light on the feet.

The factory laces on the X were ANNOYING short.
 
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