Official Nike Zoom Vapor 9.5 Thread

The colors are so ordinary. I really hope Nike releases a few better color models. But I fear that this is it for 9.5 as there has been no new models for the past 7-8 months.
I don't think the pink one/yellow one is ordinary. It's a little too flashy though. I would prefer more color options as well!
 

SJS0433

New User
They don't even need to get that creative. Just pull out some of the exact old colorways they made in the past and people will buy them.

I feel like Nike has shot themselves in the foot with this one. If they wanted to do limited releases and test the waters to see if people would buy the shoe again they really made it difficult for themselves by offering poor color choices and then very limited quantities of them at a time.
 

CoachBon

New User
They don't even need to get that creative. Just pull out some of the exact old colorways they made in the past and people will buy them.

I feel like Nike has shot themselves in the foot with this one. If they wanted to do limited releases and test the waters to see if people would buy the shoe again they really made it difficult for themselves by offering poor color choices and then very limited quantities of them at a time
I agree that the colorways were not good, but the quantities were more than enough as evidenced by the deep discounts they needed to provide in order to move these. Even after the discounts there are still plenty available.

There is a large market for retros of all types of shoes, but it seems that in the performance shoe market people want what is viewed as the newest and greatest technology as opposed to throwbacks.
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
I don't think the pink one/yellow one is ordinary. It's a little too flashy though. I would prefer more color options as well!

I wouldn't call any of the colors ordinary except the leather ones. I actually really like the southern California ones ("scribble"). So cool. That's kind of it for me though: I don't want leather and the pink ones are too loud for me.
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
They don't even need to get that creative. Just pull out some of the exact old colorways they made in the past and people will buy them.

I feel like Nike has shot themselves in the foot with this one. If they wanted to do limited releases and test the waters to see if people would buy the shoe again they really made it difficult for themselves by offering poor color choices and then very limited quantities of them at a time.

I think they did it on purpose tbh

Some executive won a power struggle to get these reissued, and whoever was actually in charge of implementation decided to give us the worst colors possible to prove that exec wrong. I'm guessing there was a sizable contingent within the company who really didn't want to do this.
 

Chairman3

Hall of Fame
I think they did it on purpose tbh

Some executive won a power struggle to get these reissued, and whoever was actually in charge of implementation decided to give us the worst colors possible to prove that exec wrong. I'm guessing there was a sizable contingent within the company who really didn't want to do this.
There was also the issue of pricing them at $160 or whatever it was.
Sure, they went on sale and I got mine both for under $100, nevertheless, sticker shock.
(Obviously there are those on this forum who claimed they'd literally pay anything and then balked at the price)
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
There was also the issue of pricing them at $160 or whatever it was.
Sure, they went on sale and I got mine both for under $100, nevertheless, sticker shock.
(Obviously there are those on this forum who claimed they'd literally pay anything and then balked at the price)

Right, exactly. I think Nike partly did this limited run just to prove that those consumers were all talk.

Price wasn't my issue. They were $140 when they came out in 2015 so this is more or less where they should be. I never pay full price for shoes or gear anyway.
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
I used to think this kind of stuff is tinfoil hat conspiracy but now that I know how the world works, i now think this is actually sounds like it is highly highly probable :-D

So petty

Exactly. Spend some time in corporate life and you see that things only get done by executive graces.

So either there was an exec who was really passionate about this and was hamstrung by the marketing team who picked the colors, or an exec who decided to humor a very passionate product team but didn't fully commit to their vision.
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
I don't agree that Nike wanted the shoe to fail or that the shoe represents some type of power struggle within Nike. I think it's more plausible that Nike didn't want the shoe to compete with its other offerings and was more offering this as a "collector's"/"niche" item. Therefore, they didn't want to release it in plainer colors. If they priced it at $129.99 (same as the Vapor Pro 2 and this is "old tech," right?), promoted it, and released it in less polarizing colors, I think it would have been received differently by players and fans.

By the way, I'm not convinced the shoe re-release was a failure. I obviously don't know what Nike made on it, but they certainly didn't lose money! I've seen players wearing it in local tournaments and leagues, and I for one am relieved I have two new pairs. Like most are suggesting, the release could have been handled better and it would be nice if they continued making the shoe in a few basic colors. By no means was the re-release a failure though.
 

teckid

Semi-Pro
Def agree it's a very curious release, I can't imagine these colors being desired by... anyone? Not sure why they are so against just playing the hits and releasing some of the classic colors. They are doing a similar plan with some of the Kobe re-releases, great shoes in colors that no one seems excited for.

I feel it's been a decent seller, I've seen a bunch of the green/palm leaf ones, and the honey deuces. More than I ever see of the GPs or V11s out in the wild (my foot withstanding, the 9.5 sole was never comfy for me).
 

Chairman3

Hall of Fame
can't imagine these colors being desired by... anyone?
I'm not just anyone, I'm me.
I like all the colors, last place is the scribble (it's boring)
Leather (super classic with the gum sole)
HoneyD (bright and flashy, Fed wasn't shy about wearing bold colorways of his Vapors)

I don't get all the hate on the colorways. Yes, Nike could've done all black/white swoosh or the inverse. But as @Chopin points out it would've cannibalized sales and made Nike look stupid, 10-year old shoe outsells modern tech/R/D, not a good look.
 
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teckid

Semi-Pro
I think you mean more stupid :laughing:

They already have a bad image with the pros not embracing their line up, PE clothing not avail to consumers (colors, sleeveless), fans grumbling more than praising. They had a great run of what was on the pro court being available to buy.

I'm all for them pushing the envelope forward, but hard to do when tennis is such a low income generator vs. basketball/running who get all the flashy R&D. Tennis has to wait years for the stroble zoom insoles or the flyplate, etc. I would argue most of the current line up isn't much beyond what the 9.5 or ten years previous tech was.

Honestly the "stories" of the colorways are just too random. The honeydeuce is based off a cocktail at the USO tied to another brand (Grey Goose), mmm ok. The scribble is based on the 'desert murals' of IW, mmm alright. How about a WhatTheVapor with a mix of colors of famous V9.5 that won slams? Or colors echo'ing famous Air Max shoes? Or Olympics? Not everything has to have Fed/Agassi nods; I think the MacAttack V11 is actually a good execution for a homage (but not many people like the V11); same with the AJ3 x V9.5 -- can't believe these were available for so long -- but the story was more clear, had ties to it's own roots, etc.

But the desirability question, would anyone desire any of the current releases over say the launch color or just any random 2015 color?

Oh well! Glad you dig them!
 
I don't agree that Nike wanted the shoe to fail or that the shoe represents some type of power struggle within Nike. I think it's more plausible that Nike didn't want the shoe to compete with its other offerings and was more offering this as a "collector's"/"niche" item. Therefore, they didn't want to release it in plainer colors. If they priced it at $129.99 (same as the Vapor Pro 2 and this is "old tech," right?), promoted it, and released it in less polarizing colors, I think it would have been received differently by players and fans.

By the way, I'm not convinced the shoe re-release was a failure. I obviously don't know what Nike made on it, but they certainly didn't lose money! I've seen players wearing it in local tournaments and leagues, and I for one am relieved I have two new pairs. Like most are suggesting, the release could have been handled better and it would be nice if they continued making the shoe in a few basic colors. By no means was the re-release a failure though.
Not a failure, but not the roaring success that it could have been either - job well done if you’re the marketing exec in question.:sneaky:
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
So, are they done? I'm assuming, yes. I don't see any new versions of it. No clay version. Overall, a welcome but strange release.
 

Chopin

Hall of Fame
I think you mean more stupid :laughing:

They already have a bad image with the pros not embracing their line up, PE clothing not avail to consumers (colors, sleeveless), fans grumbling more than praising. They had a great run of what was on the pro court being available to buy.

I'm all for them pushing the envelope forward, but hard to do when tennis is such a low income generator vs. basketball/running who get all the flashy R&D. Tennis has to wait years for the stroble zoom insoles or the flyplate, etc. I would argue most of the current line up isn't much beyond what the 9.5 or ten years previous tech was.

Honestly the "stories" of the colorways are just too random. The honeydeuce is based off a cocktail at the USO tied to another brand (Grey Goose), mmm ok. The scribble is based on the 'desert murals' of IW, mmm alright. How about a WhatTheVapor with a mix of colors of famous V9.5 that won slams? Or colors echo'ing famous Air Max shoes? Or Olympics? Not everything has to have Fed/Agassi nods; I think the MacAttack V11 is actually a good execution for a homage (but not many people like the V11); same with the AJ3 x V9.5 -- can't believe these were available for so long -- but the story was more clear, had ties to it's own roots, etc.

But the desirability question, would anyone desire any of the current releases over say the launch color or just any random 2015 color?

Oh well! Glad you dig them!

I think the "stories" idea could have been good if they had released more of them. As it is, we only got two "stories" (Indian Wells and the US Open and nothing in between). You're right: it seemed random. They could have released the Vapors with this narrative in mind. Something like "New Vapor 9.5, new story" and had shoes that reflected various tournaments. I think that would have been cool and I could even see some people trying to collect them all.
 

teckid

Semi-Pro
I think the "stories" idea could have been good if they had released more of them. As it is, we only got two "stories" (Indian Wells and the US Open and nothing in between). You're right: it seemed random. They could have released the Vapors with this narrative in mind. Something like "New Vapor 9.5, new story" and had shoes that reflected various tournaments. I think that would have been cool and I could even see some people trying to collect them all.
I like that idea. I would love a Green/Purple/Gold unofficial Wimby color, Orange/BabyBlue AO, Clay/Green FO, and on and on.

The Indian Wells palm fronds things seems a like they had the pattern and then fitted it to Indian Wells, not that they wanted to reference/celebrate Indian Wells and then designed the patter. I don't think most people would have come up with the turquoise scribble leaf pattern if you asked them to think of icon Palm Springs imagery -- prob more desert/mountains/sunset skies would come to most people???
 

aus89

Hall of Fame
I like that idea. I would love a Green/Purple/Gold unofficial Wimby color, Orange/BabyBlue AO, Clay/Green FO, and on and on.

The Indian Wells palm fronds things seems a like they had the pattern and then fitted it to Indian Wells, not that they wanted to reference/celebrate Indian Wells and then designed the patter. I don't think most people would have come up with the turquoise scribble leaf pattern if you asked them to think of icon Palm Springs imagery -- prob more desert/mountains/sunset skies would come to most people???
they had nothing to do with palm trees lol - they were based on the scribble art murals that get done of the winners each year
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Chairman3

Hall of Fame
I love the look with the gum sole and them as a pre / after play shoe but as a play shoe the toe wouldn't stand up for me
I'll let you know, I also drag my toes pretty bad and just started using these.
Although I'm also just trying to not drag my toes as much. My last pair of Ubersonic 2s wore the toe out before the outsole.
 

gino

Legend
I guess it's over then.

Nice to see Dimitrov playing in his custom 9.5s tonight and deliver that Federeresque performance.

Classic first strike tennis, lovely colorway of the v9 too

Would hope Nike opens their eyes, stops releasing horrible “innovative” shoes and just put everyone back in the v9/9.5 on tour
 

teckid

Semi-Pro
they had nothing to do with palm trees lol - they were based on the scribble art murals that get done of the winners each year
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OMG - thank you. I had no idea, naturally I will blame Nike and TT posters who never posted a comparison to these sketches! ;) (I just keep seeing 'murals found in the Southern California desert' in the description and I was very confused (obviously).
 

B Cubed

Semi-Pro
I grabbed a pair last fall and had them in reserve. I put them on for practice and match play last week, and struggled to take them off. So iconic and they check so many boxes. I may need to build up my reserve off the auction site.
 

innoVAShaun

Legend
I still have a pair of the 9.5s, still my gold standard. Great heel cup, and lock down on the upper.

I only have the Vapor AJ3s and the extrinsic heel post of my orthotics do not sit well for tennis play. It makes the heel of the outsole feel unstable.
 
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