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Is better than Babolat Pure Drive First Gen ??? I must prove Wilson Clash but I think could be an uncontrolable one for me

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I never played with that one so I cant compare them. I like the Clash, but im waiting now for the 98 version. And advise that one instead of the 100. Ive tested that one and like it more. More control. I dont like the stringbed of the 100, too open.. I hope there will be an 18x20 version, but guess not..


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The one thing for sure Wilson should rediscover is their quality control. You demo a Wilson racquet and you like it.... then you purchase it and it plays totally different because of different balance and weight. And it’s not like 1 to 3 grams out of spec.... most of the time you get sth almost 7-8gr out of spec.
 
The one thing for sure Wilson should rediscover is their quality control. You demo a Wilson racquet and you like it.... then you purchase it and it plays totally different because of different balance and weight.
Thats right. Wilson should send the employees who work in the factory where Wilson rackets are made, to Yonex in Japan for an internship!


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Thats right. Wilson should send the employees who work in the factory where Wilson rackets are made, to Yonex in Japan for an internship!


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I ve purchased around 10 yonexes the last 3 years. I haven’t seen any of their racquets more of 1 or 2 grams out of spec...and their balance was always spot on.
 
I ve purchased around 10 yonexes the last 3 years. I haven’t seen any of their racquets more of 1 or 2 grams out of spec...and their balance was always spot on.
Here the same. Bought 3 yonex vcore dual G few years ago, all the same!
Now i have a pro stock vcore 100 and it plays great!! So much softer then the retail version. I like it!


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The one thing for sure Wilson should rediscover is their quality control. You demo a Wilson racquet and you like it.... then you purchase it and it plays totally different because of different balance and weight. And it’s not like 1 to 3 grams out of spec.... most of the time you get sth almost 7-8gr out of spec.
So true! I was at my local shop last week and was talking with a guy that works there. He said the day prior someone came in wanting to buy a matched pair of Clashes. He said it took them going through 18 racquets to fine 2 that were close in balance and weight lol
 
@Szajo
As I've been ordering two Clash (295g) I've asked my dealer to get both with the same specs (weight, SW, balance) and both Clash now are matching with 301g.
I was told that in the same shipment of rackets of mine was a Clash with 289g instead of 295g,imagine if I'd buy them online somewhere I might have ended up with basically two different sticks!! *ouch* :mad:
So even though I understand your problems with keping up with "hard hitters" I didn't have these issues at all, mabe your Clash was "on the light side"?
Did you check the specs of it and the Clash Tour?
Would be interesting to know...
 
So true! I was at my local shop last week and was talking with a guy that works there. He said the day prior someone came in wanting to buy a matched pair of Clashes. He said it took them going through 18 racquets to fine 2 that were close in balance and weight lol
Same with me that's really ridiculous
 
@Szajo
As I've been ordering two Clash (295g) I've asked my dealer to get both with the same specs (weight, SW, balance) and both Clash now are matching with 301g.
I was told that in the same shipment of rackets of mine was a Clash with 289g instead of 295g,imagine if I'd buy them online somewhere I might have ended up with basically two different sticks!! *ouch* :mad:
So even though I understand your problems with keping up with "hard hitters" I didn't have these issues at all, mabe your Clash was "on the light side"?
Did you check the specs of it and the Clash Tour?
Would be interesting to know...
The quality control of Wilson isn't great I know. Never had that problem with Yonex. Didn't check the specs but the Tour felt so much heavier than the 295g. Even heavier than my 320g yonex and I think they should have about the same balance. I will bring my scale and see if the two rackets are on spec or not. But 5-10g can make a big difference. 289g compared to 301g is huge. Great you got yours fixed! (y)
 
You totally missed the point. They dont rediscover low RA. They just made a low RA racket with power. And that is unique!
They dont say the Clash has the best feel. My PT57A's and H19 has way more feel. But the Clash has more power, but still is very arm friendly and thats the unique sellingpoint for the Clash.
Dont bash if you dont know where you talking about!
Hi Robin,
Really loving your inputs and analysis.
Could you give us the final specs on your customised Clash Tour?
Much Appreciated.
 
Hi Robin,
Really loving your inputs and analysis.
Could you give us the final specs on your customised Clash Tour?
Much Appreciated.
Hi Casius,
Thank you, nice to hear that!
My final specs of the Clash Tour are 355 gram, 320 balance, 10 gram sillicone in the handle
5 grams of lead at 12, 8 grams at 3&9, 4 gram at 6 and 3 grams at the top of the handle. Swingweight of 350
But I gonna sell this one. Wait for the 98.
I like the 100 tour at minicourt and teaching but my tennisschool is switching to Yonex.
Ive tested the 98 tour and like that one more. Buy that one and paint it black so I can use it with teaching. But with better students i use my PT57A's and pro stock Yonex vcore 100.


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Same with me that's really ridiculous
Although, Babolat isn't much better. I picked up a pair of PS's while I was there. They had 8 or 10 in my grip size, and the weights and balance of them were all over the place also. The only 2 that were close were 298g unstrung which is 7g under spec.

I have never owned Yonex, but I've read mostly positive feedback regarding their QC which seems to be significantly better than Wilson and Babolat.

I turned into a bit of a holic last year and bought and demoed a lot of frames from a variety of sources (TW, local shop, auction site, TT classifieds, friend's racquets). After experiencing over and over again how different the same frame would play from racquet to racquet due to manufacturer variances, moving forward I will only buy from TW with their matching service or my local shop where I can check specs beforehand.
 
Wilson 'rediscovering' low RA racquets...what a joke, you must try Muscle Weave 200G, Yonex RD7 or old Head Radical Tours or Pro Tour 630....that were the feelings of a racquet player...if you can manage them

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Tell me something, are these racquets powerful, and stable at the same weight as Clash?
 
Is better than Babolat Pure Drive First Gen ??? I must prove Wilson Clash but I think could be an uncontrolable one for me

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Tell me something, is this Babolat anywhere near regarding its comfort and arm friendliness in comparison to the Clash?
 
I ordered two Clash Tours from TW (without asking for matching weight) and there was a 2g difference between frames. Not bad I'd say. I saw worse with several Pure Strikes I had.

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Tell me something, are these racquets powerful, and stable at the same weight as Clash?
Is used by Fognini...and I suppose other players that play with 'new pure drives, less RA and more open pattern, no cortex, I have to say not hurt my arm at all

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Is used by Fognini...and I suppose other players that play with 'new pure drives, less RA and more open pattern, no cortex, I have to say not hurt my arm at all

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I have played with Fognini's racquet myself, extensively. Although it is brilliantly customized, and it feels softer than any Pure Drive in any form it is not comparable with the Clash. The comfort of Clash is in another category.

Something more to keep in mind is that Fognini's racquet is a rocket launcher the way is customized, less control than the Clash Tour. Several ATP and WTA players can not tame it, Fognini can....

Last but not least, you can not find Fognini's racquet the way is customized, but you can find Clash Tour.
 
Got a Clash Tour demo, 331g strung (sensation) OG and damper, 316 balance. Looking forward to hitting and comparing to TC100 v3 63RA, 330g strung, OG and damper, 320 Balance.

Should be an interesting test. Looking forward to see what the hype is all about.

I also have my trusted old (2015) Prince TT100P 330g / 320 balance in the bag.

Cheers, Toby
 
Hi Casius,
Thank you, nice to hear that!
My final specs of the Clash Tour are 355 gram, 320 balance, 10 gram sillicone in the handle
5 grams of lead at 12, 8 grams at 3&9, 4 gram at 6 and 3 grams at the top of the handle. Swingweight of 350
But I gonna sell this one. Wait for the 98.
I like the 100 tour at minicourt and teaching but my tennisschool is switching to Yonex.
Ive tested the 98 tour and like that one more. Buy that one and paint it black so I can use it with teaching. But with better students i use my PT57A's and pro stock Yonex vcore 100.


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Thanks Robin and especially for your precise specs. Much appreciated.
I've also been experimenting with a heavier spec but closer to a much HL 310 balance and even then, I find anything above 355g difficult to manoeuvre (I don't have such issues with my Dunlop CX200 Tour weighted at 362g). That said, I'm finding a heavier spec more stable (obvious really) but still suffering from erratic string bed which I've only just managed to tame by using the stiffest poly I had in my arsenal strung at 40lbs to maintain some power sanity. Sadly though, I fear the stiff poly is not being kind to my elbow (even at such low tension) and I can feel some excess strain but at least I'm controlling the sometimes erratic launch angle.
I must say like most here, I always have to go through a period of "experimentation" with any new racquet in order to find my optimum setup, but with this Clash, I feel I'm just "hitting my head against a brick wall" and I'm trying to tame something which was really "not meant for me" (IMHO, Wilson marketing mistake).
So like yourself, I will await to see if later iterations (98, 18x20 etc..) will be any improvement.
 
Thanks Robin and especially for your precise specs. Much appreciated.
I've also been experimenting with a heavier spec but closer to a much HL 310 balance and even then, I find anything above 355g difficult to manoeuvre (I don't have such issues with my Dunlop CX200 Tour weighted at 362g). That said, I'm finding a heavier spec more stable (obvious really) but still suffering from erratic string bed which I've only just managed to tame by using the stiffest poly I had in my arsenal strung at 40lbs to maintain some power sanity. Sadly though, I fear the stiff poly is not being kind to my elbow (even at such low tension) and I can feel some excess strain but at least I'm controlling the sometimes erratic launch angle.
I must say like most here, I always have to go through a period of "experimentation" with any new racquet in order to find my optimum setup, but with this Clash, I feel I'm just "hitting my head against a brick wall" and I'm trying to tame something which was really "not meant for me" (IMHO, Wilson marketing mistake).
So like yourself, I will await to see if later iterations (98, 18x20 etc..) will be any improvement.
Your welcome Cassius,

Ive tried several setups but it looks like this frame dont like to be customized. It plays so different with lead. Like the flex is coming out really weird. ( lead at 12 works best imo)And hate the open stringbed. And sound when you hit the ball. So ill wait for the 98. And I felt the same with the poly. Had luxilon smart at 18 kilos but i felt my arm right a way. Last stringjob was Diadem Evolution 17 at 16 kg mains and Diadem Solstice Power 18 at 16 kg cross. Plays very nice. But didnt get much power from the baseline.. And when I have the same setup at 15 kilos in my PT57A's I have tons of power and control! The Clash 100 tour is a very good unique racket but not for me..

Just bought ( again..) the Wilson Ultra tour, receive it tomorrow or tuesday and will be customized by Timo van Driel, because I have no time to do it myself, fly to Turkey tuesdaynight for a tennisholiday(12 days). 4 hours teaching a day and then chill .

I really like the Ultra tour. Will be the same specs as my PT57A's. Curious how it will play. Then I can use my PT57A's less, hope to use them longer then.. They're just too expensive!



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Yesterday at the BNPPO, TTW turned their demo court over to Wilson for a special Clash demo session with one guy feeding balls in a doubles type drill session. I didn't get a chance to partake, although already have a regular Clash at home.
 
I demo-ed the tour for about 5 hours. I also hit the lighter version about 10 minutes. The tour is an excellent racket. I really like the feel and softness. Serves were better for me and groundstroke guite good too. A little more power and spin. I normally play volkl 10 leaded to 12 oz 4 HL 330+SW around 4.0 level. Old guy now but played higher when younger. I may switch - it is that good. For me, no problem with control or launch angle. I found it very controllable. I think it is comparable to yonex ezone 100 or volkl v1 pro or volkl 8 series but better.
 
I decided to buy the Tour version, strung with Sensation 16g at 51pds on the mains, and Resolve 17g at 49 pds on the crosses. Coming from the DR98 and DR98+, both strung with gut mains and poly crosses. I'm not sure if I will switch over to the Clash completely, but it will be fun having a 3rd choice in my bag. Also, if I end up hating it, I will just trade it for a pro staff!
 
I decided to buy the Tour version, strung with Sensation 16g at 51pds on the mains, and Resolve 17g at 49 pds on the crosses. Coming from the DR98 and DR98+, both strung with gut mains and poly crosses. I'm not sure if I will switch over to the Clash completely, but it will be fun having a 3rd choice in my bag. Also, if I end up hating it, I will just trade it for a pro staff!
Let me know how this setup goes on the clash tour, as this was my string setup for my blade cv


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After 3 months without pain in my elbow I tried to use Head Rip Control on my ezone 100s, pain came back with 1 hour of drills.

I hope Clash can keep me playing, I am tired of trying to keep the ball in just using multifilaments in power and stiff racquets.

Anymore here used Clash with tennis elbow problem like me? Would like to hear your thoughts!
 
After 3 months without pain in my elbow I tried to use Head Rip Control on my ezone 100s, pain came back with 1 hour of drills.

I hope Clash can keep me playing, I am tired of trying to keep the ball in just using multifilaments in power and stiff racquets.

Anymore here used Clash with tennis elbow problem like me? Would like to hear your thoughts!
I have a delicate elbow and can tell right away if a set up is going to give me issues. Clash is fine for my arm even strung with Luxilon Smart poly.
 
I've tamed the Clash Tour!!

So, I've played with the Clash Tour for a total of 25 hours now. First 8 hours were with a TW demo that had Wilson Sensation 16 at 55 lbs. It was a new stick, so the string bed was fresh. I loved the muted feel of the Clash Tour from the first hit and against the machine was able to generate great spin, good control, power when I wanted it, and didn't have anything really negative to say. However, when I transitioned to match play I wasn't as comfortable really hitting out on groundstrokes as some would trampoline and sail. The demo period ended and I was interested in the racket with different string setups, so I bought one.

So, post-demo in the stick that I bought, I started with Volkl Cyclone 17g at 50 lbs. I have plenty of experience with this string at this tension in several other rackets. I figured it would help de-power things and add a touch more spin. I played 8 hours (all match play) with the Cyclone and, overall, it greatly improved my ability to swing out, added a bit more spin (but less than I expected), and still retained comfort...but...there was still some trampoline action. Unfortunately, this trampoline-effect was enough that I still wasn't confident hitting out at times and I actually went back to my old racket/string setup (Volkl VS8-315 with Kevlar/Monogut ZXP at 75/45 lbs) at times.

Before deciding that I was done with the Clash Tour, I decided to cut out the Cyclone and try a familiar string setup....Ashway Kevlar 17g and Ashaway Monogut ZX Pro Black at 75 lbs / 45 lbs. I pre-stretched and strung it up as I normally do. I have now put 9+ hours (match play) on the Kev/ZXP and it is a great fit for the Clash Tour and my game. Spin is noticeably better than with Cyclone, both visually and also based on opponent comments ("hitting a much heavier ball than usual..."). But most importantly, the racket is now tamed and I can swing out whenever I want and still be able to control things. Because of the ZXP, I still get great "free power" on hard serve returns, overheads, and serves. Volleys are great with this racket IMO, and that continues with this string setup. Touch (particularly for droppers) is one downside of Kev/ZXP based on my experience with this setup in other rackets. However, in the Clash Tour I no longer have that complaint. I think the frame flex may give just enough dwell time to give me back the touch I felt I lost in stiffer frames. Finally, comfort is really excellent, with absolutely no wrist/arm/elbow soreness or stiffness. And based on the limited wear I've seen so far, I believe I will get at least 20-25 hours out of this stringing.

:cool:
 
You strung your mains at 75 lbs and the crosses at 45? Uh oh, one of "those people" escaped the String Forum.
Haha, yup, and IIRC, I think I bought a couple rackets from you that I have strung the exact same way! :p

If nothing else, I hope a couple other "brave" souls will try this string setup on their Clash Tour and either confirm or deny my observations.
 
I have played with Fognini's racquet myself, extensively. Although it is brilliantly customized, and it feels softer than any Pure Drive in any form it is not comparable with the Clash. The comfort of Clash is in another category.

Something more to keep in mind is that Fognini's racquet is a rocket launcher the way is customized, less control than the Clash Tour. Several ATP and WTA players can not tame it, Fognini can....

Last but not least, you can not find Fognini's racquet the way is customized, but you can find Clash Tour.
I have mines with lead at 3&9 and a few at 12....plus leather grip, strung with pros pro red devil 1,24 25-24...uncontrolable at returns...Im not playing with Dunlop 300G up to 335gr strung.....whats the Fognini customization specs???

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started with Volkl Cyclone 17g at 50 lbs. I have plenty of experience with this string at this tension in several other rackets. I figured it would help de-power things and add a touch more spin. I played 8 hours (all match play) with the Cyclone and, overall, it greatly improved my ability to swing out, added a bit more spin (but less than I expected), and still retained comfort...but...there was still some trampoline action. Unfortunately, this trampoline-effect was enough that I still wasn't confident hitting out at times and I actually went back to my old racket/string setup
Volkl - good base level setup, same for me, sort-of adds nothing, but spin, an rewards all out hitting. Bit worried by trampolining. Hate that in a racquet. Yes, you have done all the prep and readied for the shot, however the stringbed just gives the... unexpected.

Video above - in it the reviewers mention - flutter against heavy hitters, lack control, pops up low balls, hope for 98 version, Tour better than the Std for control.

Want sweetspot to be sweet - not weird trampoline "hot spot" - but will try the Std...
 
I put lead at 3 & 9 and it felt slow...it probably already has a high twist weight?
Racket felt better for me with lead at 12.

That said, I would caution everyone on taking advice given RE clash due to Wilson quality control (or lack of).
I really don't think we are comparing apples to apples.
In my case, the racket was heavier than spec and significantly more head heavy which translated to a significantly higher Swing Weight than spec.
 
I just had to come out of self imposed exile to report of the worst frame every promoted. yes the clash was so TRASH I could not even begin to write a review. Anyone comparing it flex to that of PT630 or PT57A is clueless. They are not even close. The Clash is a lobotomy in its own. ANYONE BUYING THIS FRAME IS IN FOR A SURPRISE............ THE FIRST generation blades silver and black are long gone...... good luck Wilson. Yonex with it Vcore is not stable yes it is spiny but not stable.... The Prestige Pro XT is still king if you know how to reduce the SW ( i know how ) other than that I have nothing else to say...........
 
I just had to come out of self imposed exile to report of the worst frame every promoted. yes the clash was so TRASH I could not even begin to write a review. Anyone comparing it flex to that of PT630 or PT57A is clueless. They are not even close. The Clash is a lobotomy in its own. ANYONE BUYING THIS FRAME IS IN FOR A SURPRISE............ THE FIRST generation blades silver and black are long gone...... good luck Wilson. Yonex with it Vcore is not stable yes it is spiny but not stable.... The Prestige Pro XT is still king if you know how to reduce the SW ( i know how ) other than that I have nothing else to say...........
Thanks for stopping by. See ya. Time to go back into exile.
 
Ok first outing with the Std Clash 100 was last night, for 1.5 hours with volkl cyclone 17/1.25 in it @48.

The spin I got was bit reminiscent (more on this in a sec) of the wilson Steam spin 99s from 2013, the ball prompts up into the air off the stringbed when you bunt, and yet the spin on a flat shot is insane as it immediately drops. Now it doesn't seem to have the problem the Steam had of producing a ball that just sits up. I could get the ball to push through on the harder hits, but wanted more plough for sure ( and so will be adding lead).

No there is no way I can spend much time with Cyclone normally in other racquets. I know that is low tension nevertheless the stiffness of that string will hit me in the elbow before long. I cannot really tell because of the short hitting time however I didn't feel a thing last night/morning from the poly.

It's not like the frame is muted, but there is just no/low identifiable shock transmitted.

My strokes will have to adjust, there is a lot of spin on tap...
 
I just had to come out of self imposed exile to report of the worst frame every promoted. yes the clash was so TRASH I could not even begin to write a review. Anyone comparing it flex to that of PT630 or PT57A is clueless. They are not even close. The Clash is a lobotomy in its own. ANYONE BUYING THIS FRAME IS IN FOR A SURPRISE............ THE FIRST generation blades silver and black are long gone...... good luck Wilson. Yonex with it Vcore is not stable yes it is spiny but not stable.... The Prestige Pro XT is still king if you know how to reduce the SW ( i know how ) other than that I have nothing else to say...........
If you play with a PT57A like I do, you know that the Clash is nothing for you for matchplay. But to teach with is no problem. Its not a racket for everyone, but its very good for a lot. You dont have to bash it because its a fine racket. But maybe not for you. And the swingweight of a prestige pro xt is not that high. My PT57A's swingweight is 380. And to reduce swingweight is not that hard. So dont play a god and go back to your exile if you have nothing to report here. We didnt ask for your return. Go back to your precious Gollem
 
Besides the Steam, I was also reminded of the - Wilson Blade 98S 18x16 Spin, from 2013 - though that one was just too light, beam too thin, woefully underpowered - solid it was not. Both of them produced a ball that sat up too much, that didn't push through the crt. And with the light Blade I almost served my shoulder off.

Luckily neither of these ghosts inform the Clash.

So although Wilson is saying "revolution" really they have been experimenting since the Spin FX era from 2012 (?)

They seem to have ironed out the "too much spin" syndrome. I hit a heaviest FH hit in a v v long time...

Not enough serves to really tell yet.

Clash is only 312g strung but it plays solid - beam width probably helps - and so it is not much lighter than a Bab PD (2015). But the Bab was jarring and one dimensional at the net. At least with the Clash I can shape a volley or a drop. I think it's that flex that is welcome. It feels like I am really playing whatever strings I have. That the racquet is neutral in the background...?

I still missed more than usual and thought I lacked control.

I reckon most players will want the heavier Tour, but if you like adding lead, or want more response then try the Std...
 
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Got a Clash Tour demo, 331g strung (sensation) OG and damper, 316 balance. Looking forward to hitting and comparing to TC100 v3 63RA, 330g strung, OG and damper, 320 Balance.
Here is a mini review of the Clash Tour and compared to Angell TC100

I have been reading about this frame, and have been very exited to try it out for myself. The frame has gotten mixed reviews and I now I know why.

Arm friendly: The frame is for sure arm friendly, no doubt about that. I can confirm what other players has told, the frame stiffens up when you hit harder. I also noticed vibration when hitting the ball outside the sweet spot and high in the stringbed. These vibrations does not seem to bother my sensitive arm.

Groundstrokes: This is for sure a weird frame to play. I could not get any consistency, my forehand would either be too short or too long, I could not get the depth I wanted as I felt the frame worked against me. Power was either too little or too much, I could not consistant power. Feel was weird too. Going back to the TC100 was a breeze, solid and great where the Clash Tour would be flimsy.

Serve: Way off with the Clash

Returns: Clash lack the stability of the TC100

This racquet is for sure not for me. I like racquets where I get a consistant respons, where I can trust my strokes. The Clash seems to have a mind of its own.

To me the Angell TC100 is superior in every way.

Consistancy: TC100 > Clash Tour (I can also struggle with consistency with the TC100 but compared to Clash it is way better)
Power: TC100 > Clash Tour (TC100 way more powerfull than Clash Tour)
Stability: TC100 > Clash Tour (TC100 is rock solid when up against hard hitters, Clash needs stability IMO)
Feel: TC100 > Clash Tour (No contest)
Spin: TC100 > Clash Tour (both are ok, but with TC100 I can add spin and flatten out strokes, Clash is problematic in this department)
Comfort: TC100 > Clash Tour (Clash Tour is very soft, but I felt the comfort of the TC100 is better)

Conclusion: To me the Clash Tour is Hype, no groundbreaking technology IMO, and does not meet my expectation of a good frame.

I lent the Clash to a friend, a 5.5+/6.0 players to try it out, he hit with the frame for 10 min and could not keep any balls inside the court, so decently not for advanced players.

I am sure this will be a good frame for some players, but if you have a fairly good game and like control this racquet does not fill that void.

I am sorry for this bad review, but I was simply very disappointed after reading all the good stuff about the frame here on TT. I guess the real conclusion is that you really have to try it out for yourself.

Cheers, Toby
 
@Toby14 Is your TC100 a 16x19 pattern 63RA version? Aren’t you using a prince TT100p?

I have a couple of the Vantage tc100 63ra 16x19s and find the string spacing to be way too open to offer the kind of control I get from a prestige mp, Ultra Tour or Blade 18x20. The 16x20 modded pure storm gt and aero storm gt I have give me a lot more control too compared to my TC100.
 
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I lent the Clash to a friend, a 5.5+/6.0 players to try it out, he hit with the frame for 10 min and could not keep any balls inside the court, so decently not for advanced players.
Interesting. All of the players I know who are 5.0 and better have no trouble playing with and adjusting to any racquet. Sure, they all have specific likes and preferences but they can pick up any racquet and play decently well with it after a little adjustment period.
 
If you play with a PT57A like I do, you know that the Clash is nothing for you for matchplay. But to teach with is no problem. Its not a racket for everyone, but its very good for a lot. You dont have to bash it because its a fine racket. But maybe not for you. And the swingweight of a prestige pro xt is not that high. My PT57A's swingweight is 380. And to reduce swingweight is not that hard. So dont play a god and go back to your exile if you have nothing to report here. We didnt ask for your return. Go back to your precious Gollem

How can one:
1. reduce Swingweight and maintain the total mass of the racquet by 20-25 gr?
2. reduce SW and increase the total mass of the racquet by 25 gram?

Thank you in advance for your answers?
 
Arm friendly: confirm what other players has told, the frame stiffens up when you hit harder.

Groundstrokes: not get any consistency, my forehand would either be too short or too long, I could not get the depth I wanted as I felt the frame worked against me. Power was either too little or too much, I could not consistant power.
I agree with you here. Same thing happened to me. Could not find the right depth. But over the hitting session, as I gained confidence, I just plain hit out more/harder and started to achieve consistency. As the racq stiffens up(?) or responds better in the harder hit shots I started to get a feel for it. Throw the racq at the ball and you start to get a feel for where the ball is going - rewards fast strokes, strong mechanics.

I tended to miss with the slower shots of drop shot and slice. Both are more a controlled slower stroke and it was a little hard to gauge the vague feel. I think I started to speed up all strokes...?

Btw "mixed reviews and I now I know why." disagrees with what you say later "very disappointed after reading all the good stuff about the frame here on TT" - I think reviews here inside TT are going to be v mixed too!
 
If you play with a PT57A like I do, you know that the Clash is nothing for you for matchplay. But to teach with is no problem. Its not a racket for everyone, but its very good for a lot. You dont have to bash it because its a fine racket. But maybe not for you. And the swingweight of a prestige pro xt is not that high. My PT57A's swingweight is 380. And to reduce swingweight is not that hard. So dont play a god and go back to your exile if you have nothing to report here. We didnt ask for your return. Go back to your precious Gollem
please check out my clash is trash thread
 
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