Official Wilson Clash thread

1HBHfanatic

Hall of Fame
I like the clash 100 tour..... but it has a lot of power, at least for me. So i end up stringing low power poly on high tension ( black shark 26kg)
Does the clash 98 have more/less/same power as the clash 100 tour?
everything about the same (comfort/feel/sweetspot size)
but due to the smaller head size, the control is a bit "tighter/better"
much easier to swing with a 1hbh
the power can be controlled a bit more with the gauge and the tension of the string
 

Mirdad

Rookie
I usually don’t gel well with 100 sq inch racquets but I don’t seem to mind the Clash Tour. Maybe it’s the rounder shape? All I know is it doesn’t swing like a 100 sq” to me.
 

ductrung3993

Hall of Fame
My same issues with the racquet. I get more feel out of my Phantom 100 and I thought that was about as muted as a racquet could get.

My wife is currently using the Clash and I'm thinking of sending her back to the Blade 104. I think she has more control with the Blade.
Depth control sucks with Clash too. I will play around with strings and leather grip but so far, it's been a regretful purchase.
 

Ron555

New User
everything about the same (comfort/feel/sweetspot size)
but due to the smaller head size, the control is a bit "tighter/better"
much easier to swing with a 1hbh
the power can be controlled a bit more with the gauge and the tension of the string
I now use Kirschbaum Black Shark 1.3 at 26kg/57Pounds. Any advise about gauge and tension? (For the 100 tour as wel as for a 98)
 

1HBHfanatic

Hall of Fame
I now use Kirschbaum Black Shark 1.3 at 26kg/57Pounds. Any advise about gauge and tension? (For the 100 tour as wel as for a 98)
I would start there. with your 1.30mm poly string
for the clash 100.tour, start at your tension 57lbs
for the clash 98, i would provably start at 55lbs or 56lbs

both racquets have a decent open pattern, and have a bit too much power from the thickness of the frame, so the tension can be mid to higher 50s and still feel good,,
I got a chance to hit with the 98, and if I were to string it for me, I would go 54/52 with FB poly Wilson revolve spin, 16g
 

AA7

Semi-Pro
good find
I really like this guy’s reviews - concise & informative.
Plus his skill level lends validity to his words for me - he swings like a beast.

I’m more interested in this frame now after his comparisons.
This guy could be hitting with a frying pan and make it look good.. nothing against the racquet it's just that he hits the hell out of the ball...
 

toby55555

Hall of Fame
Depth control sucks with Clash too. I will play around with strings and leather grip but so far, it's been a regretful purchase.
Yes I haven’t been comfortable rallying from the baseline, not enough control. I do like the racket for doubles though as I can serve big and it’s great for volleying. Not keen on having different rackets for singles and doubles though so put up for sale.
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
On the surface it appears somewhat enigmatic that a player of that standard would get enough stability and plough from a racquet of that weight and balance, especially if one assumes he plays outdoors on clay regularly; I guess he's a relatively little guy with fast, whippy strokes, but still. (BTW, if his serve is a self-proclaimed weakness, he must be playing at an extremely high level indeed.)
 

tennistomcat

Semi-Pro
I thought the standard clash had good stability, plow, & control for a racket in that spec range - not too much different than an aeropro or pure drive.
The clash felt solid for groundies & not too shabby on serves as well.
But everyone is different - it’s so subjective.

To me, the french reviewer doesn’t look diminutive or short in stature in the video - looks like a normal guy to me but there’s no way for us to know for sure.
His form and technique look polished & although he says his serve is the weaker part of his game, I thought it looked solid.
 

Tennis_dude101

Semi-Pro
On the surface it appears somewhat enigmatic that a player of that standard would get enough stability and plough from a racquet of that weight and balance, especially if one assumes he plays outdoors on clay regularly; I guess he's a relatively little guy with fast, whippy strokes, but still. (BTW, if his serve is a self-proclaimed weakness, he must be playing at an extremely high level indeed.)
His NTRP ranking would be 5+ I'm guessing?
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
I am in doubt which clash to buy. A friend gave me his Clash Tour. Measured 335 swingweight with dampener, 340 static weight with OG und 31,5cm balance. I love that racket though. Never got this much spin out of any racket i tried. But the specs are pretty beefy. I am thinking of buying the normal clash and customise myself. But i read that the clash tour and the normal clash have different layups..

What would you guys do?
 

Tennis_dude101

Semi-Pro
Where did you find that deal?
Fleabay in Australia, over here they retail for $329AU in the shops, the store had 15% off plus an extra 10% Fleabay discount, $9 postage so it came to $261.44AU in total.
I've gone with the standard version(295g) and will add some lead if I feel its necessary. PS. I still havn't told the good wife yet... :eek:, it can be an early birthday present! ;)
 
Fleabay in Australia, over here they retail for $329AU in the shops, the store had 15% off plus an extra 10% Fleabay discount, $9 postage so it came to $261.44AU in total.
I've gone with the standard version(295g) and will add some lead if I feel its necessary. PS. I still havn't told the good wife yet... :eek:, it can be an early birthday present! ;)
Nice deal. I picked up a clash tour on **** for $167(new) shipped.
 
I am in doubt which clash to buy. A friend gave me his Clash Tour. Measured 335 swingweight with dampener, 340 static weight with OG und 31,5cm balance. I love that racket though. Never got this much spin out of any racket i tried. But the specs are pretty beefy. I am thinking of buying the normal clash and customise myself. But i read that the clash tour and the normal clash have different layups..

What would you guys do?
That is what I ended up doing. I played with the tour for a couple weeks, but my one handed backhand was terrible. I didn't think I could handle adding more weight to the tour as it is already pretty heavy for me. I also had the standard clash so I added about 4 oz of weight around the hoop(highly recommend the TW tungsten weight) to get the racquet closer to 4-5 pts headlight instead of the 7 or so that it is out of the box. For some reason that seems to help my one-handed backhand. My modified standard clash now weighs in at 11.6oz with the tungsten weight and overgrip. I looked at all the racquets I demo'd and the ones that were less headlight worked better with my backhand. Now my forehand seems to go long, but I am thinking I can adjust to that eventually. We shall see....
 
Wife has a Clash Tour with Lux Smart in it from the original purchase. I think it’s time to get the poly out of there. Any non-poly suggestions for a modest power, flat hitting woman?
I have velocity, Origin, tier one triumph and multi feel on hand but if there is a better multi choice out there I’m all ears.
I like Laserfibre Supreme 2. Ashaway Dynamite 17 might be worth a try too.
 
To you people that lead it up, how did you do it?
I took two of the TW tungsten strips (8" long, 1 oz each, 1/4" wide) centered at 12 o'clock on each side of the strings. I played with that and didn't think it did much for me. Then I took two more 8" strips, cut them in half, and centered them at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock with half a strip on either side of the strings. I didn't offset at the buttcap as the overgrip had already changed the balance to be even more headlight, so I was trying to offset that plus make it less headlight.

Just remembered I added the yonex vibration dampener which adds another 4g.
 
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Boomersooner

New User
Just got off the court with the 98. I own 2 of the 100 tours, and have to say that the 98 blew them away. It is definitely more controllable, especially depth. Less powerful with a slightly more dense 16x19 pattern. Very solid on volleys, good racket head speed on serves. I felt MUCH more comfortable taking full swings. Return was so much better. The 100 tour has much more of a trampoline effect. Probably going to make the switch. I'm a 4.0 (4.5 if I was younger) all courter. It was strung @52 with alu power mains, nxt crosses. Still extremely arm friendly btw.
 

FV_Br

Rookie
I have tested both Clash 100 and didn't like it, but the 98 is calling my attention. Waiting for a detailed review from the user view here.
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
Not so positive comments like tennisNerd who didn’t enjoy 98 too. So it’s a pass. Waiting for the new Blades.
Fyi, in a comment below one of his vids or posts, he gives it an 8 out of 10 rating (Clash 98 i.e.).
I think you have to factor in that the Clash 98 is compared to the Clash Tour 100, which is his current racket of choice afaik.
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
I've tried the Clash 100 twice now, for about 3-4 hours. I've compared it to the 2019 Pure Aero, and my VCore 95s.

This is a great racket for beginners, intermediate players and for those with less than stellar footwork.

My first reaction was that, yes, it gives easy power, but in a very specific way. It gives you very easy depth with little effort. It's like a more controllable trampoline effect, whilst the string bed doesn't feel like it. But it's def not a power racket. When I really went for my shots, things got too unpredictable. With the Pure Aero, I was able to generate a lot more pace and spin.

However, my two playing partners both commented on how much better I played with the Clash 100. To me, this is a case of hitting deep, consistently on all shots. But I want to be able to rip the ball at times, so I'm hoping the Tour might give me that control and plow.
 
I totally agree. I was almost ready to give up on my Clash Tour but made several changes that resulted in some incredible results with both control, spin and power. Like you I used RPM Blast 17g but strung it at #35 mains/#34 crosses. I normally like to play with at least 12 ounce racquets such as Wilson RFA and have been a big fan of the Pro Staff line. As I age my arm appreciates a more comfortable set up, however I don't want to give up the performance of a traditional players racquet. So I added a leather grip which increased the weight in the handle by about 6 grams, added 2 grams of lead at 3 and 9 (4 total, using 4" strips), and 2 grams running from 1 o'clock to 2 and 10 to 11 in the hoop (also total of 4 grams). So total weight added was 8 grams to the hoop and 6 in the handle. With dampener and Kimony OG the total static weight is 348 grams or 12.26 ounces which is just about perfect weight for me along with 31.75 h/l. I normally hit a very heavy ball but have had difficulties hitting outright winners from a few feet in back of the baseline. With this new set up I was able to hit with more power along with more spin which yielded quite a bit more winners. I certainly would not endorse the Clash Tour as a direct sub for the Wilson RFA but if you are having problems with the weight and stiffness of the Pro Staff types of racquets the Clash Tour can be customized to fit your needs. The other huge advantage of the Clash Tour is even the arm sensitive players like myself can use a full bed of poly, but I've found you have to string in very low. An old school player who prefers hitting flat won't do well with this racquet. I still need to test this set up against a heavy incoming serve. Last couple of times I returned serves with the Clash Tour I found it unstable.
Wow 35lbs !! ... Perhaps I should have gone even lower on my setup. Sadly though, and I'm not sure if you've had the same experience, but I was getting some heavy string bed vibrations as my setup lost tension which became extremely annoying. What's been your experience? Do you have a practical solution to the vibration issue?
 

Mirdad

Rookie
Wow 35lbs !! ... Perhaps I should have gone even lower on my setup. Sadly though, and I'm not sure if you've had the same experience, but I was getting some heavy string bed vibrations as my setup lost tension which became extremely annoying. What's been your experience? Do you have a practical solution to the vibration issue?
I use my own electronic stringing machine which is a Gamma Progression II ELS. I've noticed since stringing my racquet on this machine that the string bed is a little firmer so I usually drop the tension by at least 2 lbs. Normally, RPM Blast 17 ga lasts me no more than five hours till I cut the strings for some fresh ones but so far this set up is lasting me considerably longer.......about eight hours and no soreness or dead strings. Today, I played 4.5 to 5.0 dubs and every player commented how well I played today. During back court rallies, no one out hit me, not even close. What I love about the Clash Tour is that I'm able to use a full bed of poly without any soreness. However, the Clash plays much better at low tensions. I can only recall two unforced errors: one forehand and backhand where I did not brush up on the ball and the ball launched long. I realize that ultra low tensions are not for everyone, especially those who don't brush up strongly on the ball.

I have not experienced any string vibrations at all. I suggest using a Gamma Shockbuster II which you can get from the TW:
https://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Gamma_Shockbuster_II_Vibration_Dampener/descpageGAMMA-SB2.html
If that doesn't work then I'd take the racquet in to have the place where you bought it and ask them to hit some balls with it. Obviously, the first step is to look at the frame to see if you see any materials along the hoop that may have separated. Make sure to check to see if you have a cracked grommet. Also, if you already use a vibration dampener, check to see that it is not partly broken as sometimes you may not notice it. A broken dampener can cause a buzzing sound and vibration.

Good luck and let me know how things turn out......
 

Mirdad

Rookie
Ordered a TW leather grip to put on the Clash. Any other leather grip-per out there?
I took a leather grip off my Wilson RFA and put it on my Clash Tour and it feels fine. However, it can feel very slippery if you don't put an over grip on it. I use Kimony over grips which are one of the thinnest if not the thinnest over grips in the industry.
 

nickarnold2000

Hall of Fame
I took a leather grip off my Wilson RFA and put it on my Clash Tour and it feels fine. However, it can feel very slippery if you don't put an over grip on it. I use Kimony over grips which are one of the thinnest if not the thinnest over grips in the industry.
How many hours are you getting out of your current set up before the strings start moving around too much ?
 

Mirdad

Rookie
How many hours are you getting out of your current set up before the strings start moving around too much ?
I’m on about 8 hours and the strings are still sliding back into place on their own. RPM Blast is a very stiff string so perhaps that helps.
I’m going to cut them out real soon as I want to experiment on some new strings by Grapplesnake that are softer. I’ll post a review within the next two weeks.
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
My clashes 100 came in today:

Clash 1
289 sw unstrung
31.1 balance
301.1 static

Clash 2
282 sw unstrung
30.9 balance
299.6 g static

Now what string to put in there? Babolat rpm blast rough, kirschbaum max power, alu power soft, Yonex poly Tour pro?
 
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jk175d

Semi-Pro
Hit with the Clash 98 yesterday. Exact same string setup as an early demo of the Clash 100 which was syn gut at 50. Definitely has more control and predictability. The 100 felt great and easy for routine rallies, but as soon as I'd try hitting an aggressive shot on the move it was randomly wild. The 98 still has a different response when you flatten out a shot but the wildcard results are gone. With that control is also a little more of a muted feel than the 100 and it's not a racquet that provides free power. Super easy to serve with and very stable on volleys.

I'll hit again with my preferred nat-gut/poly setup and update my thoughts.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
You should get more than three hours out of that set up. I’m using 1.35 mains on a warrior 14x16 and get almost 10 hours out of that. What’s your playing level?
The 1.40 mains are definitely lasting longer than any other string I’ve used before. I needed to let the racquet sit for a few weeks before the stringbed settled in and started feeling good.

I’m a strong 4.0/weak 4.5.
 

Tennis_dude101

Semi-Pro
I currently using Solinco Barbwire 17 mains and Solinco Outlast 16L crosses in my Wilson Steam 105 (16x19) strung at 45lbs.
Should I try this combo in my new Clash? :unsure:

TD
 

Holdfast44ID

Semi-Pro
The Clash Tour 100 feels good with 16g gut mains at 52 and RPM Blast Rough 17 at 47 in the crosses. This setup feels the best so far (other poly in the crosses would probably feel as good but I had 1/2 a set I wanted to get rid of). However, I still get fliers with this frame. The 98 sounds better for me. Also am looking forward to the next Blades.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
One of the coaches at the courts I hit at handed me his Clash Tour string with Luxilon gut 17g/Max power rough 1.25 at 57/55 today to try. Wow. Very nice, indeed. Easy power and spin. Just swing with smooth strokes and the racquet. I think I’ll need try a gut/Max power rough setup in my leaded clash.
 
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Ron555

New User
Are there allready string instructions available for the clash 98?
Just received mine today, unstrung. Want to string 2pcs.

Which mains to skip and preferred Tie of's?
 

jk175d

Semi-Pro
Are there allready string instructions available for the clash 98?
Just received mine today, unstrung. Want to string 2pcs.

Which mains to skip and preferred Tie of's?
I couldn't find a pattern for the 98 but it was pretty obvious once I got started. I think I tried to tie off the mains in the adjacent home next to the last main but it was a struggle to feed it through there so I skipped to the next hole and it was easy. Crosses were similar. I can post a pic of my string bed if that will help.

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