Official Wilson Clash thread

Not sure why you quoted my post but your reply had nothing to do with my question :)

Not looking for general Clash tension advice, I'm asking specifically how guys who are coming to the clash 98 from an established frame/set-up may be adjusting (or not) that same set-up on the clash.
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yeah I guess i was abit unclear ?!
but i was agreeing with you!!, the clash 98 has lots of power and going higher in tension is my opinion as well!
here is what i wrote, maybe you missed it:
" ive tried this racquets with low and high tensions,, the few times ive tried it,,
for me, that racquet works well in the higher tensions with all poly!,, and being soo wide open, a thicker poly would work, imo
the 98" is a bit tighter, so 17g string imo would work "..


im also a 4.5 player
 
yeah I guess i was abit unclear ?!
but i was agreeing with you!!, the clash 98 has lots of power and going higher in tension is my opinion as well!
here is what i wrote, maybe you missed it:
" ive tried this racquets with low and high tensions,, the few times ive tried it,,
for me, that racquet works well in the higher tensions with all poly!,, and being soo wide open, a thicker poly would work, imo
the 98" is a bit tighter, so 17g string imo would work "..


im also a 4.5 player
Ok thanks. I did read what you said but it didn't sound like you were addressing the point about tension specifically relative to that of your previous regular setup as much as you were describing general experimentation. There are so many variables in why one guy likes one tension over another so general tension discussions aren't really useful imo. But if say 8 out of 10 guys said they switched to the clash 98 with their tried and true string set up, and found they needed to go a few higher, that insight would kind of transcend personal preference.

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Interesting thread and contributions. I've switched to the Clash 100 from using the Yonex AI98 310g. At first I was not convinced because of lesser weight and control, and the high launch angle, but the feel off the stringbed with the Clash was so utterly addictive that I patiently experimented to see if I could get it to work for me. Where I get to is that I have two "on spec" with 8g of silicone added through buttcap, with Wilson Sensation Plus (1.34) at 52lbs in the crosses and Volkl Cyclone Tour 1.20 at 48lbs in the mains. The thicker multi in the crosses at the higher tension seems to "lock" the stringbed and thereby produce a lower launch angle. I have more control over the launch angle, the spin, and greater ability to hit flatter within the lines - it's actually better at flat hitting in this configuration than any racquet I've hit with - on par with my old PS85 (yep, that's a big statement). An improvement all round over the Yonex, except on serve where I can only get about 90% of the power I had, so I might try to lower the tensions.
 
Had the chance to hit with the Clash 98 for the last week on and off. Had a few thoughts...

Current Set-Up: Angell TCV3 18x20, 320 unstrung, 51 lbs tension, 9 pt HL.

Clash: Original Set-Up, 51 lbs Solinco Tour Bite Soft.

I have to say, I enjoyed the Wilson Clash at first hit. Coming from a much heftier Angell it was fun to go back to a lighter racquet and feel like I could whip it around on almost any shot. My serve exploded off the string bed, which caught my attention. I'm a 4.0 on my best day, with a strong first serve. So for me, the Clash in terms of service was electric. The guy I hit with mentioned that the ball was a lot quicker than my Angell on serve, but it didn't carry as much "heft" when it landed. So take that for whatever it means.

The overall feeling of the racquet on groundstrokes was unique. I enjoyed how easy it was on my arm and how quick the racquet head came around on the ball. For me personally, I prefer a heavier racquet and the 18x20 pattern, despite lighter racquets offering me more "free power," but the Clash was still fun to baseline with.

The 98 also didn't feel too shaky in terms of accuracy. Even with the more open pattern, I was able to find my spots for the most part and swing big. My biggest issue was hitting the ball long more times than not. That free power pushed it deep, even when I tried to add loads of topspin to keep it within the lines. It was hard at certain times to get a proper feel for my power.

At net, it wasn't unstable. I thought it would be. My Angell remains much easier to put hard balls away with at net, but the Clash didn't strike me as too flimsy. Nothing horrible at net from playing with it.

Overall, it was very fun to hit with. I'd recommend it for people who enjoy lighter racquets with a generous sweet spot and those who enjoy an easy sense of maneuverability. Enjoyed the play test, will probably mix it in at times when I'm rallying or trying to really get after my serves.
 
Got two new 100 Tours on the truck for delivery today... How are you folks two-piece stringing these? The Wilson way, Klipper way, or your own way?
I just do mine the Wilson way. I've never been told what the advantages/disadvantages are using other methods. I really like my Clash Tour. Much better racquet after I added weight and switched to a leather grip. I haven't lost a set since I made the change to the new set up.
 
Hi everybody,a question on Clash's paint job. Plenty of folks seems to have issues with the paint of their Ultra and Pro Staff racquets. Is this issue solved in the Clash model?

I am currently playing with Babolat Pure Drive Team and the racquet feels good for my game. However I am a bit of a design fanatic and those thick beams in the throat area can drive me bananas.

I've read the Ultra 100 CV is a bit similar to the Pure Drive but many people experience problems with the paint.

Now I am looking at the Clash 100 and try to figure out if this is really such a big thing or it is only a marketing hype because. I am planning to test it in the coming weeks.
 
Hi everybody,a question on Clash's paint job. Plenty of folks seems to have issues with the paint of their Ultra and Pro Staff racquets. Is this issue solved in the Clash model?

I am currently playing with Babolat Pure Drive Team and the racquet feels good for my game. However I am a bit of a design fanatic and those thick beams in the throat area can drive me bananas.

I've read the Ultra 100 CV is a bit similar to the Pure Drive but many people experience problems with the paint.

Now I am looking at the Clash 100 and try to figure out if this is really such a big thing or it is only a marketing hype because. I am planning to test it in the coming weeks.
I don't know anything about the other paint job issues you're referring to but I've found the paint/coating on the clash to be unusually durable.

Also, the Clash technology is one of the very rare occasions where the hype is justified. The clash definitely feels different than any other frame. That doesn't guarantee results of course, or that it will suit you. But it's not just the run of the mill annual marketing branding (liquid metal, microgel, graphine, etc...) this really is a noticeably different technology.

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Haven't notice a lot of Clashes in my 4.0 league, but I do like to hit at a couple parks that are very active with recreational middle aged adults, and I also play with a Meetup group of 3.0-4.0 players that are on the middle age (30-50) group, and in those environments I am definitely noticing a gradual increase in the number of people hitting with the Clash frames. This past Sunday, out of the 4 courts that were taken up with doubles matches, 3 of them had at least one person using the Clash which made it tied with the Pure Aero for the most-represented racquet in that field. The emphasis on arm friendliness and easy playability seems to be resonating pretty well - what's not to like about that if you're not concerned with every detail of racquet specs? :)
 
Grip size (4 3/8), on my Clash Tour seems more than a bit smaller than same size handle on my Yonex... Do Wilson grips run smaller, Clash run smaller, or Yonex just bigger than most?
Sorry, I meant the actual grip/handle size...ie 4 3.8... I edited now to clarify :)
Think this has something to do with shape. Eg. Wilson v Head: when both are the same size grip the rectangular Head shape feels a size smaller than the more square-ish Wilson. Yonex, IIRC, tends more square-ish thus big-ish than even the Wilson. But altering replacement grips should perhaps alleviate/help...
 
Haven't notice a lot of Clashes in my 4.0 league, but I do like to hit at a couple parks that are very active with recreational middle aged adults, and I also play with a Meetup group of 3.0-4.0 players that are on the middle age (30-50) group, and in those environments I am definitely noticing a gradual increase in the number of people hitting with the Clash frames. This past Sunday, out of the 4 courts that were taken up with doubles matches, 3 of them had at least one person using the Clash which made it tied with the Pure Aero for the most-represented racquet in that field. The emphasis on arm friendliness and easy playability seems to be resonating pretty well - what's not to like about that if you're not concerned with every detail of racquet specs? :)
I've only come across one opponent with a Clash (98) so far in my County League team matches in the UK; and he was the club coach trying out a demo.
 
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