Official Wilson Clash thread

FV_Br

Rookie
If it works for you, that's great. People seem to equate the Clash's flex with it being the cure-all for elbow and wrist issues. Balance, grip and mechanics I'd say have as much to add to the equation. My wife, for instance, has been using the Clash 100 and she's developed wrist and elbow pain. We went to a trusted pro shop owner with over 30 years experience, and they said the Clash's flex could, too, strain wrists and arms by being too flexy. Have to find the right racket balance, weight and string setup.
The flex will give you less power, and people usually try to compensate using more power from the arm, which may result in pain as well.
 

Ryebread

Semi-Pro
I'm using the Speed MP 360+, too, right now as my primary with Head Hawk Touch and I am just ripping it. Added about 4g at 3 and 9.

My other "primaries" (LOL) are the Technifibre TFight 315 and VCore 98.
I hit the vcore 98 v6 for a few weeks, I feel like it's a lot stiffer, and less powerful than the clash, far less eratic, larger sweet spot.
clash 98 = lots more pop everywhere, including serve
 

WYK

Hall of Fame
If it works for you, that's great. People seem to equate the Clash's flex with it being the cure-all for elbow and wrist issues. Balance, grip and mechanics I'd say have as much to add to the equation. My wife, for instance, has been using the Clash 100 and she's developed wrist and elbow pain. We went to a trusted pro shop owner with over 30 years experience, and they said the Clash's flex could, too, strain wrists and arms by being too flexy. Have to find the right racket balance, weight and string setup.
Let me guess, that pro shop owner then tried to sell you a different racquet...
 
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fed1

Professional
Let me guess, that pro shop owner then tried to sell you a different racquet...
At my club we have probably had a 60/40 split of players with arm issues purchasing either the Clash 100 or the 2020 Yonex Ezone 100. In both cases the players have been happy and no further issues.
 

happyandbob

Professional
YMMV, but I find a big difference in comfort between the 2020 Ezone 100+s and the Clash 100 Tours I carry in my bag. With the Clash, I can play any strings I want including a full bed of Hyper-G or RPM Rough and I have no residual pain and I can play every day if I want.

With the Ezone, if I tried to play a full bed of poly, I think my elbow would explode right away. Even if I play a hybrid with poly in the mains or even just the crosses, the tendons on both sides of my elbow will be sore for days.
 

Raysu

New User
At my club we have probably had a 60/40 split of players with arm issues purchasing either the Clash 100 or the 2020 Yonex Ezone 100. In both cases the players have been happy and no further issues.
I really dont get that "Ezone 100 is soft for the arm" I have the DR 100 and my eblow doesnt like it at all, even in full gut, low tension.(I don't believe the "new technology" on the 2020 version changes anything, the DR is already filled in the handle)
Clash 100 works. Touch shots are still harder to pull off after 2 months though... Really wish I could play with an higher tension frame
 

fed1

Professional
I really dont get that "Ezone 100 is soft for the arm" I have the DR 100 and my eblow doesnt like it at all, even in full gut, low tension.(I don't believe the "new technology" on the 2020 version changes anything, the DR is already filled in the handle)
Clash 100 works. Touch shots are still harder to pull off after 2 months though... Really wish I could play with an higher tension frame
I am not sure where I said "Ezone 100 is soft for the arm". Sometimes its about the balance. Also, when you have players coming from the Pure Drive or Ultra the Ezone 100 is going to feel "softer".
 

tennishabit

Hall of Fame
lololol m8, nothing to do with pd n all abt how u hit the ball m8. for yrs i bought >dozen of them from ppl who thought the rkt to blame for their te/ge etc, lololololol m8. i love them n still using 1/2 dozen of them. if u'r arming the ball instead of using legs/body, te/ge gonna entertaining u no matter what u use:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D...........................
 

Clash Ah ah

Rookie
lololol m8, nothing to do with pd n all abt how u hit the ball m8. for yrs i bought >dozen of them from ppl who thought the rkt to blame for their te/ge etc, lololololol m8. i love them n still using 1/2 dozen of them. if u'r arming the ball instead of using legs/body, te/ge gonna entertaining u no matter what u use:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D:-D...........................
Can’t read that. Looking at it gives me a headache.
 

JGW

New User
i'm demo'ing the Clash and used the DR98 for a long time. Will try provide input when I have time to get some time in with the Clash. Lately, only had time to play once/week at most.
Well, are you still using the Clash, if so which model?
 

JOSHL

Hall of Fame
Finding that I’m not getting much pop or heaviness on my serves with the Clash 100. Added 4g of lead to the hoop at 12 and hopefully I’ll get some more power on serve. If not I’ll keep adding. Anyone else have this issue? I love the frame for everything else.
 

Wheelz

Semi-Pro
Finding that I’m not getting much pop or heaviness on my serves with the Clash 100. Added 4g of lead to the hoop at 12 and hopefully I’ll get some more power on serve. If not I’ll keep adding. Anyone else have this issue? I love the frame for everything else.
I thought I had a good catapult feeling with the Clash on serve. But yeah for sure try some weight, I always thought that the Clash swung nicely as well with weight added at 12.
 

happyandbob

Professional
Finding that I’m not getting much pop or heaviness on my serves with the Clash 100. Added 4g of lead to the hoop at 12 and hopefully I’ll get some more power on serve. If not I’ll keep adding. Anyone else have this issue? I love the frame for everything else.
I found the Clash 100 lacked plow through and stability in general, though it seems that's a minority opinion. When I demoed them, I thought the Clash Tour provided much more stability on groundstrokes and pop on the serve. It's the racquet I use 80% of the time (with weight added at 3, 9, 12, and the handle)
 

JOSHL

Hall of Fame
I found the Clash 100 lacked plow through and stability in general, though it seems that's a minority opinion. When I demoed them, I thought the Clash Tour provided much more stability on groundstrokes and pop on the serve. It's the racquet I use 80% of the time (with weight added at 3, 9, 12, and the handle)
I think it’s plenty stable especially for the weight and balance. I’ll hit tomorrow and see if the lead helps but I’m guessing it will need more. I don’t want too much static weight and I like a more HL balance so hopefully this 4g will be enough.
 

happyandbob

Professional
I think it’s plenty stable especially for the weight and balance. I’ll hit tomorrow and see if the lead helps but I’m guessing it will need more. I don’t want too much static weight and I like a more HL balance so hopefully this 4g will be enough.
I'm the same. I like the stock balance of the Clash Tour so I used the TWU tool to help me add weight to the hoop without affecting the balance, which is why I also ended up with lead tape and tungsten putty in the handle.
 

JOSHL

Hall of Fame
I'm the same. I like the stock balance of the Clash Tour so I used the TWU tool to help me add weight to the hoop without affecting the balance, which is why I also ended up with lead tape and tungsten putty in the handle.
Yea I use an over grip and another whole over grip to build up my butt so that about 10g in the handle already. Currently at 6pts HL with the lead. I’d like to be around 8.
 

WYK

Hall of Fame
I thought I had a good catapult feeling with the Clash on serve. But yeah for sure try some weight, I always thought that the Clash swung nicely as well with weight added at 12.
This. I found it works best with a few grams at 12 O Clock.
I string mine tight now, and it gives great control. Still, not a big fan of the feel on touch shots.
 

JOSHL

Hall of Fame
The 4g of lead helped quite a bit with the serve today but I’m still not liking the balance so I’ll add some putty in the trap door to get to 8pts HL. It’s now 11.75oz which is not ideal but still weighs less than my pro staffs.
 

rv75

New User
I switched to the Clash 100 because of a bad case of GE. I've tried several strings and hybrid combos but I settled on Luxilon Smart @ 48 lbs. I've been increasing my playing time and I'm up to 3 to 4 times a week with no pain. However, a week ago I started feeling pain in my shoulder/elbow. I restrung over the weekend and played Sunday pain free. When I cut out the Luxilon Smart I did see some deep notching. I am now worried about going more than 2 weeks without restringing. This becomes an expensive proposition with Luxilon Smart. Can anyone recommend an alternative? I have tried natural gut (VS Touch) and, while I can play with it, I struggle with control. Maybe a good hybrid of nat gut/poly or SG? Recommended tensions? I'm a male 4.0.
 

WYK

Hall of Fame
I use 18g poly on my 18X20 and 16X20 sticks to good effect. I restring after a few hours of use.
 
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Hefty Lefty

New User
I've been using the Clash 100S for 3 months now and still struggling to get enough 'feel' with this racket. The only modification I made was to add a leather grip (I also use overgrips). It changed to weight to 310g, so practically close to a Pro.
I feel the bevels more with the leather grip but has not changed the feel (or the lack thereof) much. I've tried Yonex Polytour Fire, Yonex Polytour Rev, Dunlop Explosive Bite, Gosen AK Pro CK. Tensions were 45lb for polys and 50lb for the Gosen syn gut.
I particularly lack the feel on slices, drop shots and volleys compared to my Prince Textreme Tour 100P or TT95. Any suggestion for the best "feeling" strings for the Clash?
 

Ryebread

Semi-Pro
I switched to the Clash 100 because of a bad case of GE. I've tried several strings and hybrid combos but I settled on Luxilon Smart @ 48 lbs. I've been increasing my playing time and I'm up to 3 to 4 times a week with no pain. However, a week ago I started feeling pain in my shoulder/elbow. I restrung over the weekend and played Sunday pain free. When I cut out the Luxilon Smart I did see some deep notching. I am now worried about going more than 2 weeks without restringing. This becomes an expensive proposition with Luxilon Smart. Can anyone recommend an alternative? I have tried natural gut (VS Touch) and, while I can play with it, I struggle with control. Maybe a good hybrid of nat gut/poly or SG? Recommended tensions? I'm a male 4.0.
Smart ruined my wrist.
Stay away.
 

Clash Ah ah

Rookie
I've been using the Clash 100S for 3 months now and still struggling to get enough 'feel' with this racket. The only modification I made was to add a leather grip (I also use overgrips). It changed to weight to 310g, so practically close to a Pro.
I feel the bevels more with the leather grip but has not changed the feel (or the lack thereof) much. I've tried Yonex Polytour Fire, Yonex Polytour Rev, Dunlop Explosive Bite, Gosen AK Pro CK. Tensions were 45lb for polys and 50lb for the Gosen syn gut.
I particularly lack the feel on slices, drop shots and volleys compared to my Prince Textreme Tour 100P or TT95. Any suggestion for the best "feeling" strings for the Clash?
I use a full bed of Hyper G 18g strung at 48lbs. I get good feel with that.
 

pinco000

New User
Smart ruined my wrist.
Stay away.
so Im not the only one with this problem! I abandoned the racket for now however it is staying in my bag. I tried several hybrids in it and the pocketing was good, feel also. But the racket is definitely not stable enough on volleys, returns, on heavy hits it gets pushed away. Another issue is it is eating strings like crazy. The hybrids don't last longer than 4 weeks, it starts dropping and dropping to the point where its unplayable and I'm cutting it out with anger lol
It lacks control too. Despite all this I will restring it once more one day and this time with full bed of stiff control orientated poly at 50 and see how that plays.
 

SinneGOAT

Hall of Fame
Harry from Tennis Spin reckons the Clash 2.0 has been pushed back to around Christmas maybe January 2022.
Expect November 2021, in another thread there’s a picture from Wilson saying November 2021 is clash v2’s release date. I think this thread was for the reverse cosmetic.
 

Ryebread

Semi-Pro
so Im not the only one with this problem! I abandoned the racket for now however it is staying in my bag. I tried several hybrids in it and the pocketing was good, feel also. But the racket is definitely not stable enough on volleys, returns, on heavy hits it gets pushed away. Another issue is it is eating strings like crazy. The hybrids don't last longer than 4 weeks, it starts dropping and dropping to the point where its unplayable and I'm cutting it out with anger lol
It lacks control too. Despite all this I will restring it once more one day and this time with full bed of stiff control orientated poly at 50 and see how that plays.
read the posts I made after the original.
you'll see my story, it's interesting
 

SonRK

Semi-Pro
Anyone tried Prince premier control in these rackets, if so how did it go?
One of my frames is currently strung it with it. It's good! Always a solid low power and soft multifilament. You get a very honest response from the string bed and would recommend it if a premium multi is launching too far for you.
 

liriel

New User
Hey guys, sorry you're experience pain. Is Clash 100 different from Reverse version or just colour? This racquet lacks a lot but I enjoy playing with it with full natural gut strung to give me power not control. Do you think it's a terrible choice?
 

Clash Ah ah

Rookie
Hey guys, sorry you're experience pain. Is Clash 100 different from Reverse version or just colour? This racquet lacks a lot but I enjoy playing with it with full natural gut strung to give me power not control. Do you think it's a terrible choice?
just a paint job.
 

PD1978

Rookie
Hey guys, sorry you're experience pain. Is Clash 100 different from Reverse version or just colour? This racquet lacks a lot but I enjoy playing with it with full natural gut strung to give me power not control. Do you think it's a terrible choice?
It’s just cosmetic change.
 

liriel

New User
Sorry to double post. My friend whom never saw me play recommended me tour version because of the balance. Would you agree? What's your take?
 

tim-ay

Professional
Sorry to double post. My friend whom never saw me play recommended me tour version because of the balance. Would you agree? What's your take?
I think the regular clash with some lead is the better frame. But obvi not everyone would say that.... these things are personal. If you don’t like customizing though, yeah, the tour might be better for you. The tour just doesn’t have a lot of room to customize unless you turn it into something that it isn’t supposed to be.
 

pinco000

New User
I think the regular clash with some lead is the better frame. But obvi not everyone would say that.... these things are personal. If you don’t like customizing though, yeah, the tour might be better for you. The tour just doesn’t have a lot of room to customize unless you turn it into something that it isn’t supposed to be.
I agree. My clash was/is ( sits in the bag now) the reg 100 version and it weights in at 339g incl, overgrip, dampener, strings. Its perfect to play around and is the super option for the tired elbow.
 

tonylg

Legend
I think the regular clash with some lead is the better frame. But obvi not everyone would say that.... these things are personal. If you don’t like customizing though, yeah, the tour might be better for you. The tour just doesn’t have a lot of room to customize unless you turn it into something that it isn’t supposed to be.
My Clash 98s are now up over 350g and totally feel like the racquets they were supposed to be.
 

Clash Ah ah

Rookie
I think the regular clash with some lead is the better frame. But obvi not everyone would say that.... these things are personal. If you don’t like customizing though, yeah, the tour might be better for you. The tour just doesn’t have a lot of room to customize unless you turn it into something that it isn’t supposed to be.
What should they be?
My pros (tours) are at 340g with a balance of 32.2cm, they feel great.
 

tim-ay

Professional
My Clash 98s are now up over 350g and totally feel like the racquets they were supposed to be.
It’s all what you like, setups are personal. But 350g clashes have to be about 2% of the setups out there. Absolutely nothing wrong with being unique... but the person asking about which frame to get is not likely to be dialed into that. I’d certainly be looking at a blade pro if you’re getting into 350g territory. But that’s me.
 

tonylg

Legend
It’s all what you like, setups are personal. But 350g clashes have to be about 2% of the setups out there. Absolutely nothing wrong with being unique... but the person asking about which frame to get is not likely to be dialed into that. I’d certainly be looking at a blade pro if you’re getting into 350g territory. But that’s me.
Nah, Blades are like swining a club. My Clashes are 10pts head light, strung.
 
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