Officially retiring, but continuing to slog it out in qualifiers and challengers

I note that both David Ferrer and Julien Benneteau are doing this. Anyone else? Surely Stephane Robert has claimed to be retiring a few times. And what about Nicolas Mahut?

Talking of Benneteau, if he's not yet retired, surely he'd want a wild card to Paris Bercy rather than to be top seed in the challenger tournament in Brest, no?
 
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MasturB

Legend
I think Mahut is retiring from singles.

Benny is still going to play Davis Cup I thought which is why hes getting live practice at challenger.

I thought Ferrer was going go retire for good next year in like Madrid or something. Thought USO was his last slam.
 
I think Mahut is retiring from singles.

Benny is still going to play Davis Cup I thought which is why hes getting live practice at challenger.

I thought Ferrer was going go retire for good next year in like Madrid or something. Thought USO was his last slam.
Yes, that's why Benneteau is still playing. They need him for DC. Still think he'd play Bercy rather than Brest.

Anyway, Ferrer's decision makes no sense to me. It reminds me of Becker, who retired from Slams after Wimbledon 97, kept playing a bunch of minor events, and then decided to play Wimbledon 99 after all. Basically he retired because he couldn't beat Sampras on grass and wasn't competitive elsewhere anymore. But in Ferrer's case, if he's still going to play Barcelona and/or Madrid, I don't understand why he wouldn't play the Australian Open. Perhaps he doesn't want to travel, but it surprises me he can get the motivation to play (and win) the Monterrey challenger but not the Australian Open. Any idea whether he is just coming back for Barcelona/Madrid or whether he'll play a bunch of other events - such as the South American golden swing - beforehand?
 

reaper

Legend
Yes, that's why Benneteau is still playing. They need him for DC. Still think he'd play Bercy rather than Brest.

Anyway, Ferrer's decision makes no sense to me. It reminds me of Becker, who retired from Slams after Wimbledon 97, kept playing a bunch of minor events, and then decided to play Wimbledon 99 after all. Basically he retired because he couldn't beat Sampras on grass and wasn't competitive elsewhere anymore. But in Ferrer's case, if he's still going to play Barcelona and/or Madrid, I don't understand why he wouldn't play the Australian Open. Perhaps he doesn't want to travel, but it surprises me he can get the motivation to play (and win) the Monterrey challenger but not the Australian Open. Any idea whether he is just coming back for Barcelona/Madrid or whether he'll play a bunch of other events - such as the South American golden swing - beforehand?
Ferrer's playing Hopman Cup in Perth in 2019. While Perth is more than 2000 miles from Melbourne it's hard to believe he won't make his way over for the AO.
 
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TennisFan97068

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Ferrer's playing Hopman Cup in Perth in 2019. While Perth is more than 2000 miles from Melbourne it's hard to believe he won't make his way over for the AO.
He probably does not want to slog it out over best of five sets and qualifiers and made a big fuss over the US Open retirement being his last slam match.
 

wangs78

Hall of Fame
Ferrer probably just wants to be in good enough form not to go out in the first round in Barcelona/Madrid. But I agree that if that's his goal, he may as well play the AO. Maybe he just wants to build some confidence in the low level tournaments.
 

MasturB

Legend
Yes, that's why Benneteau is still playing. They need him for DC. Still think he'd play Bercy rather than Brest.

Anyway, Ferrer's decision makes no sense to me. It reminds me of Becker, who retired from Slams after Wimbledon 97, kept playing a bunch of minor events, and then decided to play Wimbledon 99 after all. Basically he retired because he couldn't beat Sampras on grass and wasn't competitive elsewhere anymore. But in Ferrer's case, if he's still going to play Barcelona and/or Madrid, I don't understand why he wouldn't play the Australian Open. Perhaps he doesn't want to travel, but it surprises me he can get the motivation to play (and win) the Monterrey challenger but not the Australian Open. Any idea whether he is just coming back for Barcelona/Madrid or whether he'll play a bunch of other events - such as the South American golden swing - beforehand?
Risk drawing a top player early and only playing one round or winning winnable matches at a challenger for extra practice.
 

MasturB

Legend
I think it’s more of a travel thing for Ferrer and his family.

Monterrey is first tourney he’s played since USO. It’s also a nice vacation place. I wouldn’t be shocked if he still played challengers in Europe near Spain leading up to Barcelona and Madrid.
 
Risk drawing a top player early and only playing one round or winning winnable matches at a challenger for extra practice.
True, but Brest was this week and he got three matches in. With a wildcard to Paris Bercy, he could have had a nice farewell in his country's second biggest event (joint second, if you want to count Monte Carlo as being in France), and played one or two matches there, too. And it'd have been fitting to play his last tour tournament there, where he did so well last year. I mean, to be honest, I think he's retiring too soon, given that he still has a chance of winning that elusive title, but plenty of players seem to be retiring while still doing pretty well at 36 or 37 right now, and if the motivation's gone, the motivation's gone.
 

MasturB

Legend
Benneteau was never as much of a serve bot like his peers who are still thriving around the same age in singles. He had to grind a lot.

Stepanek was at least serve and volleying a lot. Feliciano and Muller were too but they’re both retiring as well. You can see the toll grinding took on Ferrer despite him being one of the fittest guys on tour.

Karlovic’s ranking has dropped big time too. Fred is soon to be the last of his generation at this rate.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
I note that both David Ferrer and Julien Benneteau are doing this. Anyone else? Surely Stephane Robert has claimed to be retiring a few times. And what about Nicolas Mahut?

Talking of Benneteau, if he's not yet retired, surely he'd want a wild card to Paris Bercy rather than to be top seed in the challenger tournament in Brest, no?
Ferrer must have vacationed at Monterrey , Bennett must be playing Brest because he knows the people and Mahut is playing because it is his home court and he got a WC for qualies

Mahut is retired for all practical purposes . Ferrer will play until Madrid /Barcelona . I don’t believe Julien will play in 2019

Andujar , Robredo, Karlovic are all trying to make a comeback
 
Karlovic is playing challengers yet essentially retired (although I do hope he plays at least one slam from the FO onwards next year, to become the first man since Connors at the USO 1992 to play in a slam after his 40th birthday).
 
Karlovic is playing challengers yet essentially retired (although I do hope he plays at least one slam from the FO onwards next year, to become the first man since Connors at the USO 1992 to play in a slam after his 40th birthday).
In what way is he "essentially retired"? He's still playing almost every week. I'm hoping he'll become the first man since Connors to rank in the top 100 after his 40th birthday. He's #108 with four months to the day to go until he turns 40.
 
In what way is he "essentially retired"? He's still playing almost every week. I'm hoping he'll become the first man since Connors to rank in the top 100 after his 40th birthday. He's #108 with four months to the day to go until he turns 40.
Basically he’s a spent force on the ATP tour, relying on challengers to get him through.
 

Max G.

Legend
Basically he’s a spent force on the ATP tour, relying on challengers to get him through.
There's a pretty big difference between being retired and not being very good anymore...

Maybe there is some kind of financial incentive for veterans to play at Challenger level these days?
Could be their endorsement contracts require them to keep some sort of ranking level. I assume that challengers pay well enough that they're making money, and perhaps they can keep some of the endorsement contracts that they got back when they were better.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
I note that both David Ferrer and Julien Benneteau are doing this. Anyone else? Surely Stephane Robert has claimed to be retiring a few times. And what about Nicolas Mahut?
Ferrer has stated that he plans to bow out at one of his home tournaments, either Barcelona or Madrid, and that 2017 US Open (at which he had to retire in his opening match) was his last Slam. Benneteau is supposed to have already retired but was apparently persuaded by Yannick Noah to be a part of the French Davis Cup team for the forthcoming final against Croatia. I'm guessing that will be his last event. No idea what Robert and Mahut are planning.

Talking of Benneteau, if he's not yet retired, surely he'd want a wild card to Paris Bercy rather than to be top seed in the challenger tournament in Brest, no?
He already bade his farewells at Bercy last year which he stated was his last appearance there.
 

Zardoz7/12

Professional
Mahut is in the first round of Bercy vs Tiafoe? Is this his last singles hurrah? Feliciano Lopez is in the draw too, he's had a subpar season and becomes Madrid director from next year.
 

George Turner

Hall of Fame
I dont see the big deal here.

For Ferrer, whose a spent force at ATP level, it's obviously more productive to win some matches at challenger level instead of losing in the first round of an ATP event. Including the Australian Open, which he would have to come through qualifying to play.

It makes perfect sense for him.
 

tennis4me

Hall of Fame
Maybe these ex top 10-20 singles player can play some doubles after they retire from their singles career. Might bring some more interesting doubles match-up, and hopefully drum up more money for doubles for those Pros that have elected to specialize in doubles.
 
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