OG Micro Sheep

5point5

Professional
I don't understand the craze for this string... It's just as good as any other Synthetic gut - But posters on here rave about it as though it's as good as a multi and some going as far as comparing it to gut.

Have you guys lost your minds? What's with this inexplicable cult following? The string is a cheap synthetic, nothing more...
 

loosegroove

Hall of Fame
I think pretty much it's so inexpensive (especially when it was only $29 a reel) that many people have tried it, then liked it and recommended it to others. Nothing special, but still a great value.
 

The Meat

Hall of Fame
I like OGSM, but it's no way near as playable as a good multi or natural gut. It's better than most synthetic gut imo, because it's cheaper(can change it out weekly if you don't break it, if you want) and it's pretty crisp. Excellent string in the crosses for a poly that is a little too stiff as a full bed at high tensions.

Recommend Black or white 17g of the stuff, best feeling imo.
 

Doubles

Legend
I don't understand the craze for this string... It's just as good as any other Synthetic gut - But posters on here rave about it as though it's as good as a multi and some going as far as comparing it to gut.

Have you guys lost your minds? What's with this inexplicable cult following? The string is a cheap synthetic, nothing more...
Cheap is good.
 

5point5

Professional
I like OGSM, but it's no way near as playable as a good multi or natural gut. It's better than most synthetic gut imo, because it's cheaper(can change it out weekly if you don't break it, if you want) and it's pretty crisp. Excellent string in the crosses for a poly that is a little too stiff as a full bed at high tensions.

Recommend Black or white 17g of the stuff, best feeling imo.
That's all I want to hear, nothing more than a synthetic gut, and at most a GOOD synthetic gut.
 

anubis

Hall of Fame
I don't understand the craze for this string... It's just as good as any other Synthetic gut - But posters on here rave about it as though it's as good as a multi and some going as far as comparing it to gut.

Have you guys lost your minds? What's with this inexplicable cult following? The string is a cheap synthetic, nothing more...
It's dirt cheap, that's why. If all you care about is cranking out poly hybrids at a profit, then its the go-to string for you. It used to be around $30 per 660ft reel. If you string poly mains and OGSM crosses, it used to work out to about $1 per string job if you cut the string just perfectly. One reel would last you around 40 string jobs.

now its a tad more expensive, but its still really cheap compared to other strings.

Plus, its one of the stiffest syn guts on the market, which is great if you're going for a poly hybrid. You want a stiff cross to emulate the stiff mains. It produces a nice tight stingbed which gives you a ton of control.

so, for poly hybrids, its win-win.

Otherwise, for a full syn gut job, it blows goats. One of the worst I've ever tried. I prefer full bed of gamma syn gut over OGSM. Babolat Nv. Y and Prince Original Syn Gut absolutely slaughters OGSM.

But, you get what you pay for.
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
I don't understand the craze for this string... It's just as good as any other Synthetic gut - But posters on here rave about it as though it's as good as a multi and some going as far as comparing it to gut.

Have you guys lost your minds? What's with this inexplicable cult following? The string is a cheap synthetic, nothing more...
Lolz, it costs less than 4 bucks for a full set. There's no way it can be that great, plus it's syn gut string. I don't know, after playing with poly exclusively for the last 2-3 years, syn guy just moves way too much for me. I guess I really like a stiff string that won't move much in the racket.
 

Bobby Jr

G.O.A.T.
It's really cheap which is a big part of why people use it imo. Secondly, it's not all that soft so it works with some polys. A stiff poly with a too soft syn gut cross seems to be a mix that some don't like.

I used to use OG Sheep Micro as my cross but recently changed to Wilson Extreme which seems a bit softer to me - and similarly cheap.
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
It's really cheap which is a big part of why people use it imo. Secondly, it's not all that soft so it works with some polys. A stiff poly with a too soft syn gut cross seems to be a mix that some don't like.

I used to use OG Sheep Micro as my cross but recently changed to Wilson Extreme which seems a bit softer to me - and similarly cheap.
Maybe it's just me, but I can't see my self going down to syn guys or multi-filaments after using poly for so long.
 

The Meat

Hall of Fame
Maybe it's just me, but I can't see my self going down to syn guys or multi-filaments after using poly for so long.
Poly's are also my go to strings because I need a low powered string as possible, I do sometimes play with new multi's or synthetic guts to try out for fun.
 

Bobby Jr

G.O.A.T.
Maybe it's just me, but I can't see my self going down to syn guys or multi-filaments after using poly for so long.
Even just as a cross string as my post said?

If you're into pure poly set-ups then all good but you're missing out on a stack of feel. Some people don't have much feel so it might not be a big loss. I just can't get a feel for a full poly set-up on serves, volleys or touch shots.
 
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BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Lolz, it costs less than 4 bucks for a full set. There's no way it can be that great, plus it's syn gut string. I don't know, after playing with poly exclusively for the last 2-3 years, syn guy just moves way too much for me. I guess I really like a stiff string that won't move much in the racket.
Price has zero correlation to how well a string plays. I've used $2 strings that played awesome and I've used $20 strings that played like crap.

It's like saying that the $250 racquet must play twice as well as the $125 racquet, which is almost never the case.
 

Seth

Legend
Price has zero correlation to how well a string plays. I've used $2 strings that played awesome and I've used $20 strings that played like crap.

It's like saying that the $250 racquet must play twice as well as the $125 racquet, which is almost never the case.
Good point, BP.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Maybe it's just me, but I can't see my self going down to syn guys or multi-filaments after using poly for so long.
You mean "move up" to syn guts and multifilaments. Don't forget that polys are the lowest form of tennis strings. They are nothing but a solid piece of extruded plastic, which is extremely cheap to manufacture. String manufacturers love to make and sell them because they are easy to make and although they cost very little to make, they can charge high prices for them and make massive profit margins on them. It's the public that has been fooled into paying the high prices for poly strings. A decade ago, poly strings were just about the cheapest strings you can buy. By contrast, multifilaments are very difficult and expensive to manufacture.
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
Price has zero correlation to how well a string plays. I've used $2 strings that played awesome and I've used $20 strings that played like crap.

It's like saying that the $250 racquet must play twice as well as the $125 racquet, which is almost never the case.
Yeah that is true. It is on you the player, not so much the equipment.
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
You mean "move up" to syn guts and multifilaments. Don't forget that polys are the lowest form of tennis strings. They are nothing but a solid piece of extruded plastic, which is extremely cheap to manufacture. String manufacturers love to make and sell them because they are easy to make and although they cost very little to make, they can charge high prices for them and make massive profit margins on them. It's the public that has been fooled into paying the high prices for poly strings. A decade ago, poly strings were just about the cheapest strings you can buy. By contrast, multifilaments are very difficult and expensive to manufacture.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=184942

Everything I read from JR's guide leads me to believe that Syn Gut and Tournament Nylon are probably your lowest level of string. I don't know man, for me it's preference. I like a stiff string, that won't move much in the string bed. I find that poly's are quite stiff and to my liking. Syn guts, not so much.
 

Rogael Naderer

Semi-Pro
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=184942

Everything I read from JR's guide leads me to believe that Syn Gut and Tournament Nylon are probably your lowest level of string. I don't know man, for me it's preference. I like a stiff string, that won't move much in the string bed. I find that poly's are quite stiff and to my liking. Syn guts, not so much.
Polyester strings move the most...

And then spring back until they start to deteriorate.
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
Yep, it's gotta be the rock-bottom price tag. The string itself is fine as far as syn. guts are concerned. I prefer Gosen in 17 gauge for a full bed in my gear (nicer feel and performance), but the 16 gauge is decent either as a cross in a poly hybrid or for someone who needs a basic string job. For a more cozy option, I'd recommend a try with Forten Sweet, Tecnifibre's syn. gut, or Prince Original without the Duraflex.

I've also done a few hybrids lately for my gang with Tourna Black 7 16 ga. mains and Gosen OGSM 16 crosses. So far so good, but I'll report some findings after we run off a few more outings with these setups.
 

mmk

Hall of Fame
Not the stuff I use. BHB7 hardly moves at all in my racket.
High speed video may surprise you. An easy test is to pull one of your BHB7 mains (which I also use) and watch it snap back when you release it. If you were to do the same with OGSM, especially after a few sets, it would stay where you pulled it. Because we only notice strings between points, polys have very little apparent movement, but they do move.

As for OGSM, I've used it full bed, and as a cross for various polys. Full bed it is fine for my daughters who don't play tennis, but it doesn't work for me, and the string movement drives me nuts. I like OGSM better than the multis I've tried, as I got no feel at all from the multis I've tried (Rip Control & MCS), which feltl like I was playing with a damper even though I never use one. As a cross OGSM is pretty good, but I get better results now using either full bed BHB7 or crossing it with a smooth poly like SPPP or Dunlop Ice.
 

The Meat

Hall of Fame
High speed video may surprise you. An easy test is to pull one of your BHB7 mains (which I also use) and watch it snap back when you release it. If you were to do the same with OGSM, especially after a few sets, it would stay where you pulled it. Because we only notice strings between points, polys have very little apparent movement, but they do move.

As for OGSM, I've used it full bed, and as a cross for various polys. Full bed it is fine for my daughters who don't play tennis, but it doesn't work for me, and the string movement drives me nuts. I like OGSM better than the multis I've tried, as I got no feel at all from the multis I've tried (Rip Control & MCS), which feltl like I was playing with a damper even though I never use one. As a cross OGSM is pretty good, but I get better results now using either full bed BHB7 or crossing it with a smooth poly like SPPP or Dunlop Ice.
I think he was thinking about how the strings stay in place after hitting with them, after a day or two of playing with synthetic gut my bed always moves like crazy and I have to fix them between every point.
 

struggle

Legend
it's cheap and it's good. full bed, hybrid...whatever.

there is no holy grail, well maybe old VS but anyhow...

string movement (or straightening strings on occasion) doesn't bother me as i've done it my whole life. i kinda like
a second or two to do so....... although it's getting tougher as mt eyesight goes... haha
 

mikeler

Moderator
High speed video may surprise you. An easy test is to pull one of your BHB7 mains (which I also use) and watch it snap back when you release it. If you were to do the same with OGSM, especially after a few sets, it would stay where you pulled it. Because we only notice strings between points, polys have very little apparent movement, but they do move.

As for OGSM, I've used it full bed, and as a cross for various polys. Full bed it is fine for my daughters who don't play tennis, but it doesn't work for me, and the string movement drives me nuts. I like OGSM better than the multis I've tried, as I got no feel at all from the multis I've tried (Rip Control & MCS), which feltl like I was playing with a damper even though I never use one. As a cross OGSM is pretty good, but I get better results now using either full bed BHB7 or crossing it with a smooth poly like SPPP or Dunlop Ice.
Those are two of the most muted multis and are not representative of that string family as a whole.
 

Rogael Naderer

Semi-Pro
Those are two of the most muted multis and are not representative of that string family as a whole.
Is Babolat Addiction representative?

It's the only full bed multi I've tried (apart from pre strung Dunlop Silk) after 3 sessions I decided multis were not for me and tried some syn gut insted.

Was thinking about PPA, I like the playability of PSGD 16, although it's too harsh for me.
 

jonnyjack

Semi-Pro
I just started using OGSM 17 as my cross and it feels great. I was using Wilson Synthetic Gut Extreme before but I ran out and the Gosen is cheaper. I tried full bed poly a few times but it feels pretty stiff and I wanted some more feel. I could play fine with the full bed poly. The decider was that weaving poly is a pain so I said no more to that!
 

mikeler

Moderator
Is Babolat Addiction representative?

It's the only full bed multi I've tried (apart from pre strung Dunlop Silk) after 3 sessions I decided multis were not for me and tried some syn gut insted.

Was thinking about PPA, I like the playability of PSGD 16, although it's too harsh for me.
Silk and Addiction are rather stiff for multis. They play more like synthetic guts in that regard. If you like PSGD, PPA would be a great softer alternative.
 

roman40

Rookie
OGSM is a great cross for polys, for several reasons.
* It's slippery and provides good control/spin, so the hybrid plays similar to full poly setup. I'd say for most rec players, it retains these characteristics while poly mains are still playable.
* It's fairly durable, and it's doesn't shred like some other syngut or multi, at least long enough until the next string job.
* While providing good control/spin, it's also softer than full poly, which is what a lot of people prefer.
* In addition to all that it's dirt cheap.

Given popularity of poly strings now, it's not surprising why OGSM is popular as well.
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
I think he was thinking about how the strings stay in place after hitting with them, after a day or two of playing with synthetic gut my bed always moves like crazy and I have to fix them between every point.
Yep that's exactly what I meant. I hate to have to fix my strings between each point. That is so annoying.
 

gtshark1

Rookie
OGSM is a great cross for polys, for several reasons.
* It's slippery and provides good control/spin, so the hybrid plays similar to full poly setup. I'd say for most rec players, it retains these characteristics while poly mains are still playable.
* It's fairly durable, and it's doesn't shred like some other syngut or multi, at least long enough until the next string job.
* While providing good control/spin, it's also softer than full poly, which is what a lot of people prefer.
* In addition to all that it's dirt cheap.

Given popularity of poly strings now, it's not surprising why OGSM is popular as well.
Agree with this. Its not a perfect "GOAT" string but as a cross with poly it is above adequate for the role.
 

ace0001a

Semi-Pro
Gosen OGSM is a solid synthetic gut no doubt and a great value, but I still like Prince Original Synthetic Gut better. I've seen Gosen OGSM come in black...people usual say different colors of the same string feel different. Just curious if anyone here has tried OGSM in black?
 

gaga123

New User
i have tried it in black, but its not really solid black, its a coating of black.
after hitting for a while it starts to shred.
 

ace0001a

Semi-Pro
i have tried it in black, but its not really solid black, its a coating of black.
after hitting for a while it starts to shred.
That's interesting...but actually when I think about it, I do recall other people saying before that Gosen OGSM in white does the same thing and the color is just painted on and starts to peel or shred like you said...guess black is no different.
 

5point5

Professional
I had a couple sets of this garbage left - Thought I'd string one of my client's rackets with it.

Threw it straight in the trash, nobody should have to endure this rubbish.
 

Doubles

Legend
I had a couple sets of this garbage left - Thought I'd string one of my client's rackets with it.

Threw it straight in the trash, nobody should have to endure this rubbish.
I've played with my fair share of syn guts, both as a beginner, and when I teach juniors/beginners on my club team. OGSM is perfectly fine as a syn gut. You're just a hater, yo.
 

Chotobaka

Hall of Fame
I had a couple sets of this garbage left - Thought I'd string one of my client's rackets with it.

Threw it straight in the trash, nobody should have to endure this rubbish.
Oh, my. String connoisseur? Or drama queen? Clients? LOL.
 

eelhc

Hall of Fame
I had a couple sets of this garbage left - Thought I'd string one of my client's rackets with it.

Threw it straight in the trash, nobody should have to endure this rubbish.
Yeah... imagine how many more majors Jim Courier would have won if he didn't play with OGSM...
 
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Chotobaka

Hall of Fame
I like OGSM, but it's no way near as playable as a good multi or natural gut. It's better than most synthetic gut imo, because it's cheaper(can change it out weekly if you don't break it, if you want) and it's pretty crisp. Excellent string in the crosses for a poly that is a little too stiff as a full bed at high tensions.

Recommend Black or white 17g of the stuff, best feeling imo.
Yes, it is what it is. Good quality synthetic gut. Nothing more, nothing less.

Regarding the cost of OGSM, Gosen has been manufacturing this string since Jesus was a boy. R&D and tooling costs have been recouped many, many, many times over. This is one of the reasons they are able to sell it at such a reasonable price.

Gosen is a very advanced and large scale manufacturer who creates and manufactures lots of strings under other big brand names -- if it says "Made In Japan" and the label does not read Gosen, Toalson or Yonex it is OEM/ODM from Gosen or Toalson. Despite the price and the basic design, there is nothing "cheap", as in "inferior quality", about OGSM.
 
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Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Having played with everything out there string-wise, I've come full circle. IMO, nothing and I mean nothing beats natural gut; and my favorite is still Pacific Tough and Classic.

But, I am currently using Prince Synthetic Gut Original. IMO, nothing feels as good as natural gut. Prince Synthetic, which I "graduated" to after using Vantage I, Vantage II, and Blue Star, just left an impression on me. My arm remembers how good it felt and how well it pocketed the ball. I never, ever got that with poly.

I believe someone told me the good folks at Gosen manufacture Prince's synthetic gut. I've used Gosen and think it's perfectly fine. I will probably start using it once I run out of Prince Synthetic Original 17 as it looks as though Prince is going through some problems again.

I like natural gut and synthetic gut, but my arm loves them.
 

struggle

Legend
I've had my arse handed to me by many a OGSM user (i strung it for them, cheap) while i was wielding some fancypants setup.

the string works just fine.
 

maxpotapov

Hall of Fame
Full bed of OGSM only works for those who string their own racquets: it "deflates" after 2 hours of hitting or so.

As a cross it lasts forever, can also be used in mains with poly cross. I use it in hybrids all the time and would love to use it full bed, just don't have a stringing machine.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
It's dirt cheap, that's why. If all you care about is cranking out poly hybrids at a profit, then its the go-to string for you. It used to be around $30 per 660ft reel. If you string poly mains and OGSM crosses, it used to work out to about $1 per string job if you cut the string just perfectly. One reel would last you around 40 string jobs...
Impossible unless you're only talking about stringing half of the strings in a racket. GOGM is as good as many, better than most syn guts, and inexpensive. The best characteristics of the string is it's cheap, breaks fast, easy to string, and plays well. What more can a stringer ask for? Your customers like it and keep coming back for more. When they figure out it breaks too fast and the costs keep adding up you can use Polylon crosses with GOGM crosses and they are happy again. When that starts breaking too fast you can use Polylon mains and GOGM crosses. This string also works well in the crosses with Ashway Mains. It is just so versatile, it comes in many neutral colors so it matches up with just about anything. If this string came in all the colors of the rainbow it would be perfect.
 
Full bed of OGSM only works for those who string their own racquets: it "deflates" after 2 hours of hitting or so.
Main reason why I have now ordered 3 sets of OGSM, POSG and Forten Sweet in 16 and 17 gauge. To see which plays best for me, but not the least, lasts best. I have been using OGSM since the Jim Courier (JC) version was discontinued.
 

Chotobaka

Hall of Fame
Main reason why I have now ordered 3 sets of OGSM, POSG and Forten Sweet in 16 and 17 gauge. To see which plays best for me, but not the least, lasts best. I have been using OGSM since the Jim Courier (JC) version was discontinued.
All good strings. If you can find Forten Dynamix, give it a try. Crisper and more durable than Sweet 16.
 
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