Oh come on Wilson...

[Pete.Sampras.]

I finally got my new K95 rackets today. The weight of the first one was exactly 332gr, but the second one was 338gr and the third one was 339. Come on Wilson, what are you doing? This is a difference of 7gr. The two rackets swing more heavy than the other one. What would Roger say if one of his rackets had a static weight of 370gr in the first set and 377gr in the second?

Did you guys have the same problem with your rackets? Is that a reason to return it to the store?

 

[ollinger]

A 7 gram difference is fairly good by contemporary standards. Differences of half an ounce or more have been reported on this board, and Wilson seems to have perhaps a little more of a problem in this regard compared to some others such as Volkl and Fischer.

 

[VGP]

It's not reason enough for Wilson to replace your frames as they would say that the weights are within their specification tolerances.

Back in the day, Chicago and St. Vincent had a sticker indicating a static unstrung weight range of 11.6-12.3 oz (0.7 oz = 19.8 grams).

If you're unsatisfied, then I suppose you'd have to check with where you bought your frames to see what their return policy is.

Some places charge an extra fee to match frames to what you want (weight and balance).....maybe you should take advantage of that service.

 

[gsquicksilver]

were they all the same grip size?

 

[ShcMad]

I finally got my new K95 rackets today. The weight of the first one was exactly 332gr, but the second one was 338gr and the third one was 339. Come on Wilson, what are you doing? This is a difference of 7gr. The two rackets swing more heavy than the other one. What would Roger say if one of his rackets had a static weight of 370gr in the first set and 377gr in the second?

Did you guys have the same problem with your rackets? Is that a reason to return it to the store?

Consider yourself lucky coz my buddy's K90 comes up to 374-375g strung and overgrip.

My LM Prestige Mid weighed around 330g strung without overgrip, and my LM Prestige MP weighed around 325 strung without overgrip. That's quality control at its best!

 

[Pete.Sampras.]

Thanks for your replies

were they all the same grip size?

Yes, they're all the same. Also, same strings, same overgrips, same dampeners now - the weight was before the rackets were strung and so on - and the difference, of course, is still the same. It shouldn't be too much of a problem but it's not okay in my opinion...

Yonex for example would never have such a huge difference and you pay much less for their, probably even better quality. I've been with Wilson all along though... Wilson Hammer in the beginning, then PS85 for eleven years and now the K95. Got the larger head. Loved the K90 too but it wasn't the best choice for clay and doubles, just like the PS85. That's why I switched to the 95...

 

[andreyhuang]

Hi, I got the same problem and posted in this forum a while ago.

Two k90s....same setup, strung weight 353 and 358 grams.

I returned them to Wilson and they said nothing wrong with the racquets.

Therefore I am considering to switch to RDS 001 mid now. It's also has a better feel and quality.

If you search on this forum someone had a rating about racquet production consistency, and apparently Wilson is the worst.

 

[BreakPoint]

were they all the same grip size?

The grip size should have no effect on the weight (except for some Yonex racquets that spec their smaller grips lighter than their larger grip sizes).

BTW, all the Wilson's I've owned with smaller grip sizes have been heavier than the same model with the larger grip sizes.

 

[Pete.Sampras.]

Hey BP,

By the way, don't buy the asian K90. I tested it for a while now and I must say that, unlike its US-counterpart, this asian model is unstable and just isn't as good as the US-version overall. The stability was a big problem when I played with it.


Oh and... my strung K95s have a weight of 351-358gr

 

[dd051]

i measure sw of a k90 with an overgrip and the sw measured at 350.

 

[thomas martinez]

First off it's always best to take specs without string, and without overgrips. And your difference, it's actually spot on. That's actually damn tight QC. Yonex isn't any better contrary to what you believe. Nor is Volkl, nor is Head, nor is Fischer. If you got all the frames at the same time, you could have requested they came in weights and balances as close as possible. Wilson as someone else said, is going to tell you that is right within tolerences. You usually have a tolernece of +/- 8g of weight or so, and +/- of .4 cm on the balance as well.

 

[BreakPoint]

Hey BP,

By the way, don't buy the asian K90. I tested it for a while now and I must say that, unlike its US-counterpart, this asian model is unstable and just isn't as good as the US-version overall. The stability was a big problem when I played with it.


Oh and... my strung K95s have a weight of 351-358gr

Thanks, PS!

Well, I know that a lighter racquet won't be as stable as a heavier one, but I find my Asian nCode 90 to be still pretty stable compared to other racquets of the same weight. Of course, not as stable as the US nCode 90 but still stable enough that I'm willing to make that trade-off for increased maneuverability and faster racquet head speed. And also less tiring ans shoulder soreness.

I'd still like to try the Asian K90, though, just to see for myself, as I've decided that the US K90 is just too heavy for me to play long sessions with.

 

[Thomas Bird-Itch]

Quit whining and put some lead to match the heaviest one. Those racquets were meant to be played with, not admired for their perfection.

 

[miura]

I don't know what the weight hype of the k90 is about. I found it easy to play for along time without getting tired. And I've gone up 30g since the O3 white. Just get some muscles guys, it's not that hard.

 

[VGP]

I don't know what the weight hype of the k90 is about. I found it easy to play for along time without getting tired. And I've gone up 30g since the O3 white. Just get some muscles guys, it's not that hard.

He's not complaining about the weight itself, but the differences in weight in the rackets he bought.

 

[Noveson]

I don't know what the weight hype of the k90 is about. I found it easy to play for along time without getting tired. And I've gone up 30g since the O3 white. Just get some muscles guys, it's not that hard.

Just get some brains, it isn't tha- oh wait .......

I had my two RDS 001s weighed on a postal scale, they were within 2 grams of eachother. I was pretty happy. Wilson, Prince, and Head ALL seem to be lacking in quality control.

 

[fgs]

pete.sampras,
you are talking about a max. weight difference of 7g between those three frames, so it's just slightly above 2%. believe me, and other's who have already commented, that's quite good!
i think that it would be possible to adjust the swing of those three racquets without much effort.
i assume fed would't say anything, simply because there are some people out there that would perform that matching for him, just as you would have to do the matching. but i might be wrong.

 

[Pete.Sampras.]

I'm sure Fed would complain. Pros notice the slightest difference when it comes to their rackets... I'm sure his rackets have a maximum difference of 1-2gr...

Thanks, PS!

Well, I know that a lighter racquet won't be as stable as a heavier one, but I find my Asian nCode 90 to be still pretty stable compared to other racquets of the same weight. Of course, not as stable as the US nCode 90 but still stable enough that I'm willing to make that trade-off for increased maneuverability and faster racquet head speed. And also less tiring ans shoulder soreness.

I'd still like to try the Asian K90, though, just to see for myself, as I've decided that the US K90 is just too heavy for me to play long sessions with.

I know, you once told me about that. Sure a lighter racket has less stability, but that's not what I mean. The asian K90 feels really unstable, even less stable than other rackets in that category. The RDS001 MP felt a lot more stable than the K90. Maybe it's just my setup but I doubt it. I haven't played with an asian n90 so I can't tell you anything about the difference. I will keep mine as an collector's item now...

 

[paulfreda]

7 grams is less than 2% which is very good as has been said.

But more important, anyone who is that particular should be customizing his frames with lead so this weight difference issue completley disappears. Playing a frame stock is to miss out on the huge improvement that comes from tuning your racquet to match your game. Tension and string specs are not enough to get everything possible from a given frame in most cases IMO.

 

[NoBadMojo]

Industry standard spec tolerance is .03

 

[Lambsscroll]

Bust out some lead tape, scale and a balance beam. That's just the way it is with my pro staffs. I've gotten used to it he he.

 

[BreakPoint]

Industry standard spec tolerance is .03

What are the units on that ".03"?

 

[VGP]

I assume NoBadMojo means 3 percent.