Oh darn, heavy rackets.....

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Once again, in a quandry....
Windy cold day today, dead legs, and my 8 year old Mfil200 was the best hitting racket I brought, out of F5T, Aero500 weighted to 11.6 oz and 330 SW's, and Bio300T at 12 oz and 320 SW's.
I thought I abandoned the Mfil back 6 years ago, but never sold or tossed them away, so they remain part of the rotation.
Blame it on Kiteboard, who made me hit with his new blue Babs weighted to nearly 400 grams with a 370SW. I actually sorta was intriqued by it.
My Mfils are strung with thick guage nylon, 51 lbs., and weight 12.4 oz and 340 SW, what I consider too manly for my diminishing eyesight, strength, speed, and endurance.
Now I"m thinking one of those used ExtremePros might fit the want.
Choices, choices, choices......
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
When did you learn how to create a new thread?

Have you figured out how to quote and reply? Can you prove it by replying to this post?
 
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Attila_the_gorilla

Guest
Should there be a question in the OP? Do you need some heavy racket suggestions?

Or maybe other MILF options?
 
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Attila_the_gorilla

Guest
So you want people to pick one of those for you?
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
You could kill two birds with one stone by playing Sureshs and borrowing one of his Razrs.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
I don't usually let anyone touch my rackets though when Nav was here and the fat cigar smoking guy wanted to join us but did not have shoes or a racket, I let him use mine while he played barefoot
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Thnx guys..
Prince Mono is one of the least precise and weak hittingr racket's I'd ever owned. Even the Blast was more solid. Then again, I hatedthe 2-3000's also.
Bought a F5T, a PD clone, but the stock strings are done at 58 lbs., while I like around 35.
2nd day hitting with the Mfil 200, still seems solid, a few mishits at the top, serves not all that great compared to my stiffer, but lighter rackets.
I'll add another 20" of lead, 10 at the 3-9, and 10 at the butt, to see if I can hit with a 12 oz, 68 flex, 330 SW racket. My weighted Aero500's.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
Does Kiteboard post here? I'd like to get his impressions on the 400 gram racquet.

I personally don't see the point going beyond about 13.25 ounces as you can get all of the swingweight that you want at that weight max and it will provide you with enough stability as well.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Kiteboard doesn't post anymore, cites too many guys sniping at him for his ideas.
He's a thick 6' and 230 lbs. Huge wrists and arms, so much stronger than most tennis players.
 

TennisCJC

Legend
I think 340 SW will have big power zone so in some respects it is a "forgiving" racket. It will like have a sweetspot that is wider and longer than lighter rackets with the same size head. And, it will likely be more stable if you hit a wee bit off center too. All the small shots like volleys, slices, squash gets and compact ROS will be better with high SW. If you can handle the 340 SW, go for it. I'm late 50s and still reasonably fit for old guy but have less than great mobility. I think my current SW is around 333-335 and it was a smidge higher about 6 months ago. Static weight is 11.8-11.9 and 4 HL. I play mix of 3.5 to 4.5 players mostly and this SW is fine. I don't find it too heavy or hard to maneuver.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
My two Mfil 200's are 12.4 oz, 340 SW.
They hit groundies better than my 11 oz, 320 SW rackets, better against strong groundies.
But, they serve weaker, they volley as well, but different, and ROS weakness is the main problem. However, they are 95's, the other racket's just plain bigger and stiffer.
Maybe I need a ExtremePro, 12 oz, but 330 SW. But 2 of my Aero500's are 11.5 oz, and 325 SW as weighted, so why go there?
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
My only concern with 11 oz rackets is against strong groundies, and low volleys. Weight seems to help, as stated by Tennis CJC.
But, maybe a 5'10" old fart who weighs under 150 can't swing that weight at full speed, taking away the first flat serve advantage, and the late wide gets.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
My only concern with 11 oz rackets is against strong groundies, and low volleys. Weight seems to help, as stated by Tennis CJC.
But, maybe a 5'10" old fart who weighs under 150 can't swing that weight at full speed, taking away the first flat serve advantage, and the late wide gets.
Depends where the weight is. If it's polarized it's plenty solid. Trick is finding one stock
 

dak95_00

Hall of Fame
My mono is 12.9oz and I blast the ball. I can't stand sub 12oz racquets right now. I tried a Prestige and couldn't feel it swing.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
I think 340 SW will have big power zone so in some respects it is a "forgiving" racket. It will like have a sweetspot that is wider and longer than lighter rackets with the same size head. And, it will likely be more stable if you hit a wee bit off center too. All the small shots like volleys, slices, squash gets and compact ROS will be better with high SW. If you can handle the 340 SW, go for it. I'm late 50s and still reasonably fit for old guy but have less than great mobility. I think my current SW is around 333-335 and it was a smidge higher about 6 months ago. Static weight is 11.8-11.9 and 4 HL. I play mix of 3.5 to 4.5 players mostly and this SW is fine. I don't find it too heavy or hard to maneuver.
The power zone is dependent on how the mass is spread out. You get the biggest power zone with lead at 3/9 (actually spread from 2-4 and 8-10).
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
My two Mfil 200's are 12.4 oz, 340 SW.
They hit groundies better than my 11 oz, 320 SW rackets, better against strong groundies.
But, they serve weaker, they volley as well, but different, and ROS weakness is the main problem. However, they are 95's, the other racket's just plain bigger and stiffer.
Maybe I need a ExtremePro, 12 oz, but 330 SW. But 2 of my Aero500's are 11.5 oz, and 325 SW as weighted, so why go there?
Higher swingweight usually improves the solid feeling on groundies. The problem with the serve is that they are a tradeoff with RHS. There is some optimal SW for best balance between plow and RHS on the serve and it's different for every player and it will vary over time as your body changes. Everything is a tradeoff - bigger frame is typically better for forehand topspin but not as good for 1HBH flat drives. It's all about optimizing for your game - unfortunately there are a lot of variables and a lot of subjectivity in computing the net overall benefit.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
My only concern with 11 oz rackets is against strong groundies, and low volleys. Weight seems to help, as stated by Tennis CJC.
But, maybe a 5'10" old fart who weighs under 150 can't swing that weight at full speed, taking away the first flat serve advantage, and the late wide gets.
What I've found is that using a higher SW racquet results in your body changing to be able to manage it. I'm not talking about jumping 20 SW points (more likely to result in injury) but increasing 2 or 3 points, playing with it for a few weeks and then increasing it some more until your match results start declining.
 
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Attila_the_gorilla

Guest
Really d. I have moved down to a light 10 oz racket with a 330 or so sw. Love it.
You're hilarious mate! :) Is there any racket spec you haven't used yet? You used to play with huge weights I remember.

I assume this current one is quite head heavy. What made you give it a try?
 

TennisCJC

Legend
The power zone is dependent on how the mass is spread out. You get the biggest power zone with lead at 3/9 (actually spread from 2-4 and 8-10).
Agree, you can also make the higher part of the stringbed more lively with lead at noon or 10/2 and I like a little there for serving and spin on groundstrokes.
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
You're hilarious mate! :) Is there any racket spec you haven't used yet? You used to play with huge weights I remember.

I assume this current one is quite head heavy. What made you give it a try?
Whew. I wake up everyday just trying to make ATG laugh. Can cross that off the bucket list along with losing at sectionals!

Yep 10oz up to 16.25oz. Current is 80g lighter than what I was using

It was an experiment to reduce weight but retain stability. It worked and yeah it was super head heavy. Until I did my man handle (r). Now it's 2 pts hl

I detail it here

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/the-rhonda-rousey-of-rackets.534112/

I just need insane tension or the fence pays. My game is better with it I think. Arm is better too
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Going the lengths that Shroud has, from super heavy to slightly light, from 5.25 grip sizes to ??????, from 15 lbs kevlar to now 85 lbs., I'd surmise that basically, it's the indian, not the bow or the arrow, that makes this frustrating game of tennis work.
 

movdqa

Talk Tennis Guru
I think that some have mentioned that additional weight reduces certain kinds of stresses on the arm which may contribute to the ability to play in later years. Heavier racquets can also add stress to other body parts though.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Yes, you did, and I can admit you are right.
My 317 SW PrinceRed0S felt like a toy, and the ball had it's way against the racket.
Taking manana off, hopefully playing Wed., and will be using my 11.5 oz, 325 SW rackets.
Probably will quit using the Mfil 200's, as 12.4 is fine, but 340 SW just too much to serve with.
 
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