I am not so sure about that. Ben Johns made 2.5M+ last year (including endorsement from Joola paddle [lifetime contract]). Tyson Mcguffin also makes quite a bit of money (>1M), same with Federico Staksrud (>1M). Catherine Parenteau, former Michigan State tennis player, also makes lot of money from paddle and shoes endorsements, probably 1M/year. All of these people were ex-tennis players.
I watched JJ a lot in college and as he moved through the challenger level, and it occurs to me that his approach to tennis hasn't really changed much. He just tries to outhit everyone and there are way too many guys (Jason Kubler comes to mind) who hit the same wall. And unlike Shelton (who is, to me, hitting a similar wall at a much higher level), he can't ride his serve to get free points. Once a guy gets good enough to warrant opponent scouting they inevitably get "figured out" and if they don't make some adjustments, you don't have the luxury of just stagnating- you start going backwards. But it's not like the guy is old or anything- he still has time to develop what is at this point a pretty generic game at the tour level, and I hope he does. I know it's apples and oranges, but I think Shelton is reaching a similar inflection point. As one of my coaching friends put it a couple of days ago- Shelton needs to decide if he's capable of reaching the top 5, or if he's Shapovalov. But Shelton at least acknowledges that. I don't know if JJ does or not. I still pull for him to succeed.
I made it clear in my post there are a few Pickleball players that make good money, you confirmed that. There's likely 5 guys and 5 girls making real money in Pickleball. Maybe 20 max if you stretch it. The old standard to break even in pro tennis was $150K prize money per year, even if it's more today, it's nowhere near the $380K per year he's banked over 6 years. Don't forget he missed almost 1 full season of the 6 years he's been playing pro due to hernia surgery. Subtracting out the injury year he's effectively made more like $460K per year.
Listening to the US open radio the cost is 200K a year to play on the tour.
Exactly, bad / undisciplined returner, he’ll get better
This is what you said in your post:
Ben John makes ten times that. The same with Tyson Mcguffin, Federico Staksrud, and so on.... They are making 4X of $250K.
How much is Sock making playing PB?
I stand by what my post said, only a few pickleball players make over $250K. You only named a few, then compared elite tennis players to elite PB players. At the top levels tennis superiority has yet to proven into immediate PB success at the highest level.
Looking forward to your answer on how much Jack Sock has cleared. You may even be at an advantage given Sock's tennis credentials likely have given him a leg up over his PB peers when it comes to securing endorsements and sponsorships.
Again, this is what you said in previous post: "He's made over $2.3 mil in prize money in 6 years as a pro tennis player. Considering Wolf's only 25 years old and the most pro Pickleball players make is around $250K and there's only a few that make that much, that's a great idea.
No offense, but going to Bristol TN to watch Pickleball? sheesh
We all know most pro PB players are former tennis players. While you're focusing on where I said "the most pro PB players make is around $250K", you continue to ignore their part where I said, "there's only a few who make that much". While I'll admit you are correct on the top players earnings far exceeds the amount I stated, I'll concede to your point. But again, I remain correct that there's "only at few" who make big money and you continue to ignore that.
I will say this. All top 10th PB players, males or females, are doing quite well with endorsements from racquets, shoes, clothes, drinks, etc... If they were playing tennis, they would be losing money. That's the point.
Why would I turn down opportunities to hit with Ben Johns, Jack Sock, Gennie Bouchard, and Brooke Buckner?
SMH, I should known the name dropping was coming. Jack lost in Delray to a part time tennis player and that hasten the retreat from tennis.
The Bob family has come on hard times
Hit with Jack and Genie? Or dink a plastic ball around with them?
Yes, Anthrop and Bernard looking really good.
Nakashima went pro
No this his younger brother Bryce.
oh i see, is he as talented as Brandon ?
He’s good but not that good.oh i see, is he as talented as Brandon ?
Using Feddie logic and since they are brothers, Brandon is top 30 ATP material.
But not choosing Stanford docks his potential points. If he had chosen the Cardinal, top 20 would be a given.
You are clearly 1 step ahead of me on Feddie logic. I will be taking a LinkedIn Feddie Logic credentials certification later this week.
Lol!
You stole this line from the movie “gladiator”
I'm now a believer in Kim. When he announced his transfer ion the spring along with Jansen, I wasn't sure where he slotted in with Anthrop and Bernard having better UTR's and more experience. But watching him here at ITA's and in a few ITF Futures over the summer, he definitely has the game to jump over the returning Buckeyes and be at least #2. I could see a scenario where Kim and Anthrop split time at #2 and #3 behind Jansen, and even a few spots where Kim could be #1 against some B1G bottom feeders. As was the case the last couple of seasons though, not elite talent at the #1 and #2 positions for Buckeyes, but very deep #3-6. Texas (if GA Bailly and Legout play) is still tops though and will be tough
Will be sure to evade the copyright police!
Kim will probably have to play Dylan Dietrich in round 2. 2 very good players in that matchup.
Do you think he’ll play 1 for the Buckeyes? Jansen gave Kim a good match at the Columbus 25k that Kim won. Also would be interested in how the rest of the lineup goes. Jansen, Bernard, Anthrop, Nakashima would seem to round out the top 5. Stearns could be at 6.
Kim seems to have overtaken Jansen, but I could see a similar scenario to the past couple seasons with Boulais and Kingsley swapping 1 and 2 depending on matchups. I think Li (transfer) also in the mix at 5. Nakashima and Stearns sharing time at 6 most likely.
Oh yeah, had overlooked Li. The lineup looks really good for another deep run at NCAAs provided everyone's healthy. Their toughest competition in conference play will probably be Mich State and UCLA.
